Samsung Galaxy S5

Crowley said:
Which limitations that affects a phone?
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Your "phone" should be put in context with "smartphones" or in general smart devices. At this stage we do not require 64-bit, but we must move within that direction. We also need to look at the PC parallel, it clear that many Forumnites on MyBB suggest that smart devices (yes, this includes phones) will ultimately replace pc's and will this be possible without 64-bit?

I can ask you, why do phones have increased RAM nowadays and will we soon exceed 4GB in RAM?

Lastly we have device operational gains, which is an in-depth discussion.
 
Dubes said:
It is ridiculous how companies do this. We are driven by the American market and US tech sites. The finger print scanner is another prime example of this. Apple does it so everyone thinks it's a must have.
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And it sales.
 
genetic said:
CraZee said that new phones this year are going 64bit. Not one new release Android based phone has gone the 64bit route. They are all 32bit.

So that must make all new Android devices a massive failure then. Not just the S5. Not that there is a single 64bit app on the market yet.
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We are only in February. Nexus 6 is apparently confirmed for 64 bit.
AFAIK the only reason the S5 doesnt have 64 bit is because they couldnt source the required numbers of processors in time. They started mass production last month.
 
CraZee said:
We are only in February. Nexus 6 is apparently confirmed for 64 bit.
AFAIK the only reason the S5 doesnt have 64 bit is because they couldnt source the required numbers of processors in time. They started mass production last month.
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So it's a failure because it's not 64bit? There are NO other 64bit Android phones out at the moment. The Nexus 6 might be 64bit when released later this year.

You can't say one of the fastest android devices available at the moment is a failure if there is nothing else better than it.

That's like saying the fastest supercar available is crap, because it isn't faster.
 
genetic said:
So it's a failure because it's not 64bit? There are NO other 64bit Android phones out at the moment. The Nexus 6 might be 64bit when released later this year.

You can't say one of the fastest android devices available at the moment is a failure if there is nothing else better than it.

That's like saying the fastest supercar available is crap, because it isn't faster.
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I never said its a failure.
I don't believe it worthwile getting as its not future-proof.
My only argument is I believe the phone was rushed to market
 
CraZee said:
I never said its a failure.
I don't believe it worthwile getting as its not future-proof.
My only argument is I believe the phone was rushed to market
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Future proof? Of course it's future proof. It'll be perfectly fine and fast enough in 2 years time just as the S3, and even the 3 year old S2 is today.
 
genetic said:
Future proof? Of course it's future proof. It'll be perfectly fine and fast enough in 2 years time just as the S3, and even the 3 year old S2 is today.
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I suppose it boils down to what you want out of you phone.
If you happy sticking to an old release of Android, then its no problem.
If like me, you like the latest android releases then by no means is it ok.
With 2 GB of ram and 2600mAh battery, the S5 will not come close to the phones released this year.
But again I suppose its personal preference
 
CraZee said:
I never said its a failure.
I don't believe it worthwile getting as its not future-proof.
My only argument is I believe the phone was rushed to market
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In my books, 64bit doesn't do much to future proof a phone. If we used our phones for a longer period (like 5 years) your argument would have made more sense.

Also, how can we determine whether or not a phone was rushed to market? As far as I know, we don't have the necessary information available for such a claim. Only Samsung would know if that was the case.
 
CraZee said:
I suppose it boils down to what you want out of you phone.
If you happy sticking to an old release of Android, then its no problem.
If like me, you like the latest android releases then by no means is it ok.
With 2 GB of ram and 2600mAh battery, the S5 will not come close to the phones released this year.
But again I suppose its personal preference
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Android 4.4 (KitKat) has lower system requirements than Jelly Bean. Needing a better phone to run newer versions of Android is no longer the case.
 
hawker said:
Android 4.4 (KitKat) has lower system requirements than Jelly Bean. Needing a better phone to run newer versions of Android is no longer the case.
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Sorry I refute this claim. The reason the S3 is not getting KitKat is directly related to its limited ram (International version)
 
Viva said:
In my books, 64bit doesn't do much to future proof a phone. If we used our phones for a longer period (like 5 years) your argument would have made more sense.

Also, how can we determine whether or not a phone was rushed to market? As far as I know, we don't have the necessary information available for such a claim. Only Samsung would know if that was the case.
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Its not so much the 64 bit. The was just picked out by Genetic.
Its the whole package. Ram, battery etc...
 
CraZee said:
If like me, you like the latest android releases then by no means is it ok.
With 2 GB of ram and 2600mAh battery, the S5 will not come close to the phones released this year.
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Firstly, Android Kit Kat only needs 512MB to run. The reason Samsung don't want to support the S3 it any more is to get people to buy their new releases. It's all about $$$.

Secondly, the S5 has a 2,800mAh battery - not 2600mAh. It's only 400mAh off from the Z2 which has the biggest.

Thirdly, your comment that the S5 'will not come close to the phones released this year' is complete utter rubbish. I want to see the leaps and strides the other manufacturers bring out this year that will trump the S5. They will probably all be on par with a few minor differences here and there. :rolleyes:
 
genetic said:
Firstly, Android Kit Kat only needs 512MB to run. The reason Samsung don't want to support the S3 it any more is to get people to buy their new releases. It's all about $$$.

Secondly, the S5 has a 2,800mAh battery - not 2600mAh. It's only 400mAh off from the Z2 which has the biggest.

Thirdly, your comment that the S5 'will not come close to the phones released this year' is complete utter rubbish. I want to see the leaps and strides the other manufacturers bring out this year that will trump the S5. They will probably all be on par with a few minor differences here and there. :rolleyes:
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yeh, who else still need to bring out their big phone for this year?

Sony - done
Samsung - done

HTC - I wouldn't by a HTC, not in this country. No support Ive heard.
LG - They recently brought out the G2, so will only probably bring out a big update at the end of the year again (when it is their time)

who am i leaving out?

apple - irrelevant.
 
CraZee said:
Its not so much the 64 bit. The was just picked out by Genetic.
Its the whole package. Ram, battery etc...
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Obviously these different aspects of the phone relate to each other: Ram increases price. Higher resolution screen requires a faster GPU, which drains the battery faster. Bigger battery increases the thickness.

So which existing phone do you believe gets these aspects (in relation with each other) right, but also meet your high standards with regards to future proofing the phone? If none, on which grounds do you believe that it is at all possible with the currently available technology to construct the S5 you would have wanted to see?
 
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CraZee said:
Sorry I refute this claim. The reason the S3 is not getting KitKat is directly related to its limited ram (International version)
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All this is about to change with Android 4.4 KitKat. According to Google, Android 4.4 KitKat has been designed to run fast, smooth, and responsively not only on high-end devices but also on entry-level ones that have as low as 512MB of RAM.
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I still think Samsung will roll out 4.4 to the S3 in the next few months. If you want 4.4 on your phone now there are a few versions on XDA that run perfectly fine.
 
genetic said:
Firstly, Android Kit Kat only needs 512MB to run. The reason Samsung don't want to support the S3 it any more is to get people to buy their new releases. It's all about $$$.
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KitKat only needs 512MB RAM, but Touchwiz needs much more.
 
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