Save power this winter, pleads Eskom

where can i get an illegal connection done, im so tired of this ****. paying close to R2 per unit of electricity just is not on anymore, the other day I put in R500 and got 231 units of power, It is not like we use a lot but every time these pricks decide to turn power off on a sunday for the last 3 sundays we use more power when it comes back on. then you hear *******s like BHP billiton are getting their power subsidised while I am getting told to spare the power when im a paying customer who does not expect much, I expect my geyser and fridge stay on and I expect my PC's and internet stay on so **** off!! Also how many bonuses and what type of bonuses did the bosses at eskom get? im sorry but go to hell before I use less power. It is not my fault you do not know how to run things properly. do not make it your clients problems because you failed to plan properly, That is not how a business works.
 
How can a company that sells electricity as a business, plead with people not to
use the very product they sell.
What kind of logic is that.
When they dont make enough money then they they will want to rasie the prices even further.
 
How can a company that sells electricity as a business, plead with people not to
use the very product they sell.
What kind of logic is that.
When they dont make enough money then they they will want to rasie the prices even further.

Very true, it makes no sense whatsoever.

Eskum have run themselves into the ground and now we have to suffer because of this. They wanted x% and because that was turned down and we moaned they are blackmailing us now with threats of blackouts.
 
If you work out the price of gas and then work out how much energy gas provides per kilo the gas works out to be about 4 times more expensive that electricity.I did the calculation a while back when electricity was cheaper than it is now.
I will redo and see what it is now.
 
Its still more expensive. Much nicer to cook with though. My building has ground heatpump central heating and you can vary the temp from 15 to 25 deg. Gets stuffy if it is too high
 
We use gas for cooking, and a big 9kg(l) bottle lasts us about a year - my GF was here for about 5 years before me and only refilled after I moved in (guess she didn't cook much).

As for Eskom and their pleas, maybe if they stopped selling our extra capacity to neighbouring countries, we wouldn't have this problem? Blaming the government for failing to act quick enough when they realised they needed extra capacity to keep up with demand is BS. Surely some savvy financiers would have fronted the money - it's not like Eskom doesn't have a monopoly?

9 kg is a smallish bottle about 75 cm tall.
 
The energy output from LPG gas is as follows :12.9 Kwh/Kg
If a 9 kg bottle is R212 then 9 x 12.9 =116.1kw
That works out at R1.82 /kw
Now it seems that gas is almost on a par with electricity, and there is no other crap like demand side levy and surcharge ETC.
Use GAS and F#$$%^ ESKOM
 
The energy output from LPG gas is as follows :12.9 Kwh/Kg
If a 9 kg bottle is R212 then 9 x 12.9 =116.1kw
That works out at R1.82 /kw
Now it seems that gas is almost on a par with electricity, and there is no other crap like demand side levy and surcharge ETC.
Use GAS and F#$$%^ ESKOM
Also other factors have to be taken into account, like whether gas stoves use the energy more efficiently.

Gas should be cheaper than it currently is too.
 
I installed my solar power gear this past weekend so I'm ready for the load shedding.

85 W panel, regulator, 105 Ah battery and 2 x 200 W sine wave inverters.

I can run the most critical stuff for hours: router, laptop, lights and beer fridge :D

How much that setup cost?
 
So they can cut us whether we save or not.

Yes and No, I thought the same earlier "What's the point of turning everything off if I get load shed anyway" but it's the as saying "What's the point in voting, my 1 vote doesn't make a difference". You just need to do it and hope everyone else follows suite.
 
Solar greyser dont help when its grey skies for days or weak winter sun. I remember having to turn on electric greyser in winter.

as for Gas Hob the only advantages apart from faster cooking and decent grilling is you'll be able to cook during power failures. Price of gas is no cheaper. @ Mike Smit what are you smoking? Several years from one 48 kg tank? Two person family only get 6 months at most from 19 kg so if you get a Year you'll be lucky. Not several years. No ways. Also you need to factor in the original investment of cost of burners and cost of line installation what R1300-1500K for Certificate for insurance in case you blow the house sky high so they can see the tank was properly installed.

As I said, the savings is a bonus. The spend was purely to reduce the dependency on the grid.

I have spoke to a few people that see between 1 and 2 years on a 9kg. A post somewhere above said already over a year on a 15kg.
So ye - a couple of years is not an unreasonable assumption for 46kgs. Unless you intend to heat your house off it too I suppose. My intended use is cooking.

Total cost for 5 plate hob, 46kg gas bottle, installation and certificate came to R8k. Considering we needed a new hob anyway it was a good price.

EDIT: Refilling of a 46kg is R900.
 
The energy output from LPG gas is as follows :12.9 Kwh/Kg
If a 9 kg bottle is R212 then 9 x 12.9 =116.1kw
That works out at R1.82 /kw
Now it seems that gas is almost on a par with electricity, and there is no other crap like demand side levy and surcharge ETC.
Use GAS and F#$$%^ ESKOM
1.82 is on par? Per my latest bill I'm paying 1.23 for electricity.
 
Great, I'm load shredded now as of 1.5 hrs ago.
First time this year , on the coldest night so far :(

Can't complete my online assignments due tomorrow night but fortunately managed to heat dinner before the lights went out...
 
Can't complete my online assignments due tomorrow night but fortunately managed to heat dinner before the lights went out...
Yep. Also dreading the combinations of deadlines + no juice for laptop. Thankfully the office isn't too far away, open 24/7 and the juice there will never be down (mission critical servers). Still...not looking forward to the prospect.
 
Yep. Also dreading the combinations of deadlines + no juice for laptop. Thankfully the office isn't too far away, open 24/7 and the juice there will never be down (mission critical servers). Still...not looking forward to the prospect.
Power just came back on 5 min ago, so about 2h45m without juice. Laptop battery was almost dead from watching video presentations by candelight... think i have a headache now from the candle burning away.

Gonna try to get my work done way before the next deadline in case Eskom strikes again :eek:

Edit: 1st attempt to post this failed because my ADSL was acting up :(
 
An example of where Eskom can save money, last year I went to Santon convention center, the AV company was setting up stage and lights, day 1 was rehearsals for these company awards. Day 2 was the actual event... I can only guess at costs of at least 30 people and their equipment.
 
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