Saving for a car

[Lupus]

I will rule out an audi since the general consensus is maintenance is generally expensive

I've got a buddy who has had his 2006 A4 going on 14 years now, it's not really anymore expensive than any other car to be honest if it's been serviced regularly. Just look at N/A ones though and you should be okay, it is a VW and they do seem to share a few parts with a Passat or Jetta.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

No, talking about 2015 (so gen 2 ) onward. Don't get gen 1, they have the same fire hazard as the Kuga.

First gen based on old fiesta, engines are very outdated and heavy fuel consumption on petrol model. The diesel rattle so much you can hear it in timbaktoe! Did not have fire risk, as not based on 1.6 ecoboost.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

I've got a buddy who has had his 2006 A4 going on 14 years now, it's not really anymore expensive than any other car to be honest if it's been serviced regularly. Just look at N/A ones though and you should be okay, it is a VW and they do seem to share a few parts with a Passat or Jetta.

Indeed think that B7 model, after that only came turbo charged and had that terrible mulitronic transmission. The ones going cheap normally have 1.8T engine which used more oil than petrol

 

[Lupus]

Indeed think that B7 model, after that only came turbo charged and had that terrible mulitronic transmission. The ones going cheap normally have 1.8T engine which used more oil than petrol

Not sure which one it is, he got it before I met him, only met him in 2008 when he had a TT and an A4


That shape . But he's had it for ages and it just worked. Though he did let it sit for a long time when he started working from home and didn't need to see clients.

 

[ngoni615]

So, i can narrow down to chev cruz, i can look at hondas too, toyotas and ford. So far i have saved a bit of cash but i feel i should not jump into those super cheap cars i see on the internet for 15k. I do not want a car that will give me endless headaches.

 

[TheChamp]

Not sure which one it is, he got it before I met him, only met him in 2008 when he had a TT and an A4
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That shape . But he's had it for ages and it just worked. Though he did let it sit for a long time when he started working from home and didn't need to see clients.

That's the B7, the first one to have the massive grille.

 

[Lupus]

First gen based on old fiesta, engines are very outdated and heavy fuel consumption on petrol model. The diesel rattle so much you can hear it in timbaktoe! Did not have fire risk, as not based on 1.6 ecoboost.

Oh yeah those first gens were horrid, I had one as a loaner it was in 2013 and the car was a 2013 model so basically brand new. After they gave me a Spark and it was miles ahead of the first gen Figo.

 

[ngoni615]

I would eliminate the Audi at once, since you look like you have nothing against sedans I would add a Honda Civic plus an Astra NA 1.6 and the Mazda 3. All normally aspirated reliability that you need for a first car.

I do not mind sedans. Hatchback or sedan... I can go either way.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

So, i can narrow down to chev cruz, i can look at hondas too, toyotas and ford. So far i have saved a bit of cash but i feel i should not jump into those super cheap cars i see on the internet for 15k. I do not want a car that will give me endless headaches.

Soon you wont be able to get chev parts, they left the country . Might only be to get parts at dealership at a premium.

Honda very reliable mostly, but sometimes parts are only at dealership which really cost a fortune. There dealerships really mark up parts badly!

 

[ngoni615]

Soon you wont be able to get chev parts, they left the country . Might only be to get parts at dealership at a premium.

Honda very reliable mostly, but sometimes parts are only at dealership which really cost a fortune. There dealerships really mark up parts badly!

So an all rounder car that is not difficult to maintain and service should be? Toyota? renault? kia?

 

[Barbarian Conan]

1. In terms of maintenance, which one would be more affordable? I know the Audi would be the most expensive no matter where you service it. Hyundai is pretty expensive when dealer serviced as well. The rest probably too, so get a good independent mechanic. I would probably go with a Kia Rio.
2. Those that own any of these cars, how do they drive, fuel consumption etc?
3.What are some of the money savings tips and techniques you used?I would prefer not using finance. Well done for wanting to save and buy sensible cars. Firstly, as covid showed us, even after you bought the car you want to have 2 months worth of expenses as savings, so when you have R120k in the bank, then you buy the R80k car. My best tip is budget, and save what you want to save at the beginning of the month, not just what you have left over at the end of the month.
4. What is the best place to go around checking for affordable second hand cars? I personally only trust franchise dealerships, and then only a little. I bought my current car at an inspectacar franchise. We Buy Cars have good deals, but it seems you need to do your homework when buying from them.
5. How did you stay motivated when you were saving for the car? I saved regardless, so not that much motivation needed. My home stretch 3 month savings sprint I was thinking about the nice car I would have.
6. What kind of mileage is considered good for a second hand car? I, not being great with cars, would buy close to the 100 000km mark if there is no motorplan/freeway plan, or less than 70 000km if it is an Audi/BMW/Merc where there is still motorplan/freeway plan left.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

So an all rounder car that is not difficult to maintain and service should be? Toyota? renault? kia?

Toyota and Kia yeah. Renault are touchy, some last forever and some just does not last very long.

Each car brand has some really good models and really bad ones, but toyota and kia you have better chance of getting a good one.

Before buying car, phone up Midas and masterparts. Check what front pads and front disc will cost, if they these parts in stock then its probably going be decent car to maintain( and the price is decent). You want a car that 3rd party provider has stock of items and decently priced.

 

[Neuk_]

I've got a buddy who has had his 2006 A4 going on 14 years now, it's not really anymore expensive than any other car to be honest if it's been serviced regularly. Just look at N/A ones though and you should be okay, it is a VW and they do seem to share a few parts with a Passat or Jetta.

Yep, my A4 which was a 2004 B6 Avant S-Line with the marmite 1.8T 20v engine and 6 speed manual gearbox was very reliable and fuel efficient, and parts were relatively affordable as it shared a similar platform with the Passat. There were some major differences though, like the engine bay and gearbox layout which made some maintenance/repair work a nightmare but I have friends that work in the industry which helped a lot.

 

[ngoni615]

Toyota and Kia yeah. Renault are touchy, some last forever and some just does not last very long.

Each car brand has some really good models and really bad ones, but toyota and kia you have better chance of getting a good one.

Thank you mate. I really appreciate it.

 

[TheChamp]

So an all rounder car that is not difficult to maintain and service should be? Toyota? renault? kia?

Toyota no doubt, Kia and Hyundai are also fine. Renault has only started making good cars but most are turbos, I would seriously stay away from anything turbo.

 

[Neuk_]

Indeed think that B7 model, after that only came turbo charged and had that terrible mulitronic transmission. The ones going cheap normally have 1.8T engine which used more oil than petrol

Multitronic was available from the B6 onwards but gained it's poor reputation from the B7. My 1.8T 20v in my B6 never used much oil but I did maintain it very well. I think the newer generation 1.8T 16v FSi engines suffered from the dreaded piston ring land failures that lead to high oil use.

 

[Lupus]

Toyota no doubt, Kia and Hyundai are also fine. Renault has only started making good cars but most are turbos, I would seriously stay away from anything turbo.

Well there is the Triber which isn't turboed . Also I like my little 900t Clio

 

[ngoni615]

When it comes to mileage guys, what would you recommend for a used car?I also heard some folks temper with these figures in order to sell the car. Is it possible to tell if the car has been modified or tempered with when it comes to mileage reported?

 

[RedViking]

I like in this order i20, Figo, Rio, Picanto.

Which ever is the best condition and lowest millage, zero rust.
But if a car is in excellent condition and it has 120km on the clock, I will still buy it. Keep in mind it might need its timing belt/chain replaced and major service at those Km's. So might need to budget for it.

Personally I won't make debt for a car, or at least cover 50% with cash.


Anyways some good advice your got so far.

I also got some solid input here, although I didn't end up getting the i20 even though I really wanted one at that stage.

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Hi, I'm looking at buying a secondhand vehicle and might consider a Hyundai i20 1.6 2011 model, 100 000 km for 65K. I will only see the vehicle later this week, private buy, but would like to go prepared. (Kwazulu Natal). 1. Anyone with some advice on this vehicle and things I need to look out...

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[Johnatan56]

First gen based on old fiesta, engines are very outdated and heavy fuel consumption on petrol model. The diesel rattle so much you can hear it in timbaktoe! Did not have fire risk, as not based on 1.6 ecoboost.

Owners of 15600 petrol-engine Figos and Ikons, built in India between August 2004 and March 2012 and sold here, received e-mails on Wednesday asking them to "immediately" contact a Ford dealership to replace their vehicle's power-steering high-pressure hose.


"The hose may split, resulting in a power-steering fluid leak," the e-mail said. "A power-steering fluid leak could result in fumes being emitted from the engine and it may be possible for power-steering fluid to come into contact with the vehicle's exhaust system, creating smoke and, in extreme cases, fire."


Globally, 16 of the affected vehicles had caught fire, a Ford spokesman said, but none in South Africa "that we are aware of".

Fire risk forces Ford to recall two more models

Ford SA has announced another fire-risk-related recall - this time on its entry-level Figo and Ikon models.

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