Sharks Supporters Thread ver. 2008

LancelotSA

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Great stuff Sharks!

I think the Lions were slightly flattered by the scoreline with the downpour making it closer than it should have been.
 

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Just when I thought we were gonna have a rain/humidity free game ..... would've been a cracker. Just glad we kicked butt. Lions ..... ja well maybe your officials should be on the field. They did more harm to us than the players did. Hope Muir sticks by what he said about following up on that debacle :mad:
 

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Just putting some more thought into it... if the rain had stayed away the Lions may have been in bigger trouble. When you look at out loosies, they are all chosen for their speed around the park. Unfortunately we know that when it gets wet a game gets tighter. Still great to see how well our defence held up when we were attacked. Yes, the Lions got through eventually but it did take them 13 phases to do so. The discipline of the Sharks in these situations still impresses me!

As for the Bismarck debacle I hope it does get sorted...
 

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Just putting some more thought into it... if the rain had stayed away the Lions may have been in bigger trouble. When you look at out loosies, they are all chosen for their speed around the park. Unfortunately we know that when it gets wet a game gets tighter. Still great to see how well our defence held up when we were attacked. Yes, the Lions got through eventually but it did take them 13 phases to do so. The discipline of the Sharks in these situations still impresses me!

As for the Bismarck debacle I hope it does get sorted...

Yeah the rain made a huge impact on the final score. Oh well the boys in black won again!! SHARKS FTW!!
 

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The discipline of the Sharks in these situations still impresses me!

As for the Bismarck debacle I hope it does get sorted...


Timekeeper a cheat - Muir

He then returned to the stand and made his feelings clear to the timekeepers, Pappas and Willie Vos, who were sitting in the press box.

He called Pappas "a f****** cheat".

Bismarck, blood and time

Law 3.10 10 TEMPORARY REPLACEMENT

(a) When a player leaves the field to have bleeding controlled and/or have an open wound covered, that player may be temporarily replaced. If the player who has been temporarily replaced does not return to the field-of-play within 15 minutes (actual time) of leaving the playing area, the replacement becomes permanent and the replaced player must not return to the field-of-play.

The important little word is actual.


Looks like Dickie might be in a spot of bother!

I hope not!
 

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Yes, the Lions got through eventually but it did take them 13 phases to do so. The discipline of the Sharks in these situations still impresses me!

Great defensive display. Almost nothing beats a last gasp tackle IMO and the were at least 3:cool:
 

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I find the highlighted parts of the report interesting...


After the match, Muir said, "We knew how match time had elapsed when Bismarck came off. We went to fetch him quickly from where he had received stitches.

"According to the assistant referees and the fourth referee there was sufficient time for him to return.

"But the official timekeepers said we had taken longer than the permitted period of 15 minutes.

"Bismarck could not go back on the field at that time because play was in progress. He stood next to the ground while play was continuing.

"To me it was pedantic. That is something that happens when our teams play abroad. We don't need it in South African rugby.

"I don't say it was done deliberately but I say it was petty. The game does not need that," Muir said.

Jonathan Patricos, the match doctor, says there was poor communication between the official timekeepers and the match officials on the ground.

"I fetched Bismark in the tunnel when there was still a minute and a half for him to return," Patricios said.

"The Sharks' manager next to the field and the officials at the table agreed.

"However, the timekeepers informed the referee that Bismarck had been off for longer than 15 minutes and Lawrence said he was not permitted to return.
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Now I'm sorry that seems like blatant cheating by the timekeepers... and it would be interesting to find out who they support when not doing their day jobs. I have an inkling that they may not be Sharks supporters. As Dick rightly says this is the sort of thing you expect to happen when you are playing in NZ or Aus but not between two South African teams. Ok, perhaps I am being biased by saying cheating, so if not then a definate attempt by what I feel is not the most important role on the rugby field attempting to make themselves play a bigger part in the match! Unless of course the Lions coach whispered in their ears...

Bismarck went off at 18 minutes and 22 seconds and returned at 34 minutes and 15 seconds. Now that is 15 minutes 53 seconds (if my maths is correct). This does seems pedantic. When does the time stop? When he leaves the tunnel? When he gets called by the doctor? When he stands on the sideline? When he actually runs onto the field? With a 53 second leeway it would make a big difference!! For that matter when does the timing start? When he goes down injured? When he leaves the field, ie crosses the touch line (as it would need to be important if 53 seconds makes a difference)?

I also draw into question the time keeping as a whole as in this game I noticed that although the time for on field play had stopped for an injury the time for the sinbinning of a Lions player continued to countdown. Surely your 10 minutes should be actual play time? Otherwise a ten minute delay for a neck injury and you get straight back on without missing any play?

I'm sorry but this whole thing does stink. Bismarck was sure as hell not faking it, he did have a stack of stitches above his eye!

The real injustice would be if Dick got punished!

EDIT : I see the SA Referees website quotes different times to those quoted on Supersport... makes you wonder how accurate the time keeping really is!
 
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Ha ha just read on the following on the SA referees website...

At Ellis Park where this match was played, there is an efficient system of timekeeping with two timekeepers. One is the manager of Golden Lions referees, the other the chairman of Golden Lions referees, a former provincial referee. Two are used to make doubly sure in case there is some failure in the system. Both have the ability to contact the referee but only one does so, as the Laws of the Game demand - "the official time-keeper". The referee deals just with the one - the designated one. That is what happened in this case.

HA HA HA!!!
 

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Well isn't it handy that both are Golden Lions officials. Carp like this seriously gets my blood boiling. :mad:
 

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The real injustice would be if Dick got punished!

Muir incident resolved in “rugby manner”

“Dick has been in contact with Mr Pappas and he matter has been resolved in a rugby manner. All matters involving the match on Saturday have been discussed at a Management meeting that took place yesterday morning and have been addressed,” said Sharks chief executive Brian van Zyl.
Now this I like to see.

It appears that cool heads have prevailed.

Sort it out and lets get on with the game! :)
 

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I swear to whatever deity holds force for this....

If the sharks lose to the Reds I am going to cause them a world of hurt ffs.....
We played so blerry well at the start of this tournament and now we're not doing so well...

*curses and drinks another beer*
 

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Whew...

That was way to close for the first half.. sheesh.
 

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Good result in the end... we could do with some bonus points though... but I suppose that is just me being a greedy fan!
 
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