Six nuclear power stations planned

Honswaggle said:
This is Africa
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So.. we have a nuke station already. Its never killed anyone. As much as you might disregard Africa I dont. There has never been a nuclear power plant fatality in the whole of Africa :D Yeah.. this is Africa.. not the Soviet Union.
 
Anyone know what type of plants are being planned? Or is this still just talk?
 
Honswaggle said:
[citation needed]
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Ok here you go. In China alone coal has led to about 250 000 deaths since 1949. Thats not even counting the 750 000 people that die early due to air pollution in China which comes mainly from coal power stations.

Total deaths from Chernobyl - 47.

Anything else you need to prove to you that coal is more dangerous than nuclear?
 
Sheesh, speaking as a nuclear engineer who left the country because he's the "wrong" colour you guys have a looong way to go.

First: SA can't afford ONE coal fired power station. They had to borrow the money from the world bank.

Second: The standard of "new" nuke operators in SA is so dire that the IAEA has expressed grave misgivings. Do you really think they'll grant 6 licences to SA?
 
TooFastTim said:
Sheesh, speaking as a nuclear engineer who left the country because he's the "wrong" colour you guys have a looong way to go.

First: SA can't afford ONE coal fired power station. They had to borrow the money from the world bank.

Second: The standard of "new" nuke operators in SA is so dire that the IAEA has expressed grave misgivings. Do you really think they'll grant 6 licences to SA?
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Strange you were the wrong color for a technical position. I mean... the brought in the french the last time to fix it.... theyre the wrong color as well. Working in technical Ive never had a problem with the color of my skin. In my experience, you cant replace good technical with quotas. Im the "wrong color" and I am technical.. never had a problem getting a job.

South Africa is also the only country to build nuke weapons and then dismantle them, that should go a long way with the IAEA. Well that and the fact that we have so much uranium in the ground :D
 
TooFastTim said:
Are you saying I'm lying?
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I made no such judgement, I just commented that I have never met good techs who have issues getting jobs here. Its strange to me.. I dont know the nuke industry so perhaps its easy to become an engineer or something... or perhaps cause we only have one nuke station or something. I dunno.. it just seems strange.

I will say you are paranoid :D
 
Honswaggle said:
[citation needed]
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Please....

Every day we are poisoned by the emissions produced from burning coal, nuclear power is like organic tofu compared to coal.

Yes its worse if the nuclear power station blows up BUT with coal we get poisoned regardless.
 
Archer said:
Saying something will never happen is rather dumb. Moving on...
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It will **never** happen under an ANC government. I stand by this. Satisfied?

SA, just like any other country can get skills and expertise from other countries.
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Just like everything else. Destroy any local ‘white’ expertise, than import foreign ‘white’ expertise at huge expense + the expense of 6 nuclear power stations. ANC brilliance!

As for biofuels... Well, they use more energy to grow than what they produce. So thats a no no. The end.
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This must rank as one of the most bankrupt and inane responses that MyBB has received. I hope they have a ‘stupid’ file. Energy is ridiculous. Irrigation water may be a problem overcome by seawater algae. Plenty of sea.

You also seem to lack the knowledge of how coal power plants work. Biofuel can only be used during the ignition process to replace normal fuel. It cant replace the coal.
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What are you rabbiting on about? ALL generators receive their motive force from steam derived from boilers heated by something (biofuels in my example). Even nuclear heats the water in the boilers (via nuclear means) to produce steam. Once the (steam produced) motive force turns the generators, electricity production is the same. It is only the means of heating the water to produce steam that is in contention. You favour nuclear. I maintain that nuclear is dangerous for SA.
 
Archer said:
By that theory we should shut down each and every coal power station - during normal operation coal power stations release far more toxins into the air and water than what nuclear power does during normal operation. Coal power related deaths and disease are a several order of magnitudes greater than all nuclear power related incidents.
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But of course, you know that he never bothered to research his claim, it was pure thumbsuck, Sorry Honswaggle no green chickies here for you to impress now, maybe later, right.
 
Palimino said:
Nuclear power for SA is the height of idiocy. Nuclear (I hope) is not a remote possibility in SA until we are an order of magnitude more jacked-up. This will **never** happen, so we must investigate other alternative energy options.
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Palimino said:
It will **never** happen under an ANC government. I stand by this. Satisfied?
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Very different to your first post. And again, never is a very long time. You are extremely arrogant to make such statements.

Just like everything else. Destroy any local ‘white’ expertise, than import foreign ‘white’ expertise at huge expense + the expense of 6 nuclear power stations. ANC brilliance!
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I said expertise can be imported, not that it should be. I'm all for local development. How about bring inthe foreigners to begin with while they train us up. A very viable solution methinks.

This must rank as one of the most bankrupt and inane responses that MyBB has received. I hope they have a ‘stupid’ file. Energy is ridiculous. Irrigation water may be a problem overcome by seawater algae. Plenty of sea.
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If you look at the entire cycle of growing biofuels on land, more energy is used to produce biofuels than what they would deliver. Fact. Its been researched and several studies have come to the same conclusion. I have yet to come across a viable method of growing biofuels out at sea. I know its possible, but currently its far to difficult.

What are you rabbiting on about? ALL generators receive their motive force from steam derived from boilers heated by something (biofuels in my example). Even nuclear heats the water in the boilers (via nuclear means) to produce steam. Once the (steam produced) motive force turns the generators, electricity production is the same. It is only the means of heating the water to produce steam that is in contention. You favour nuclear. I maintain that nuclear is dangerous for SA.
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With the bio-diesel option, all the existing power stations can be used with little or no modification
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Did I say anything about the steam? No. Or about how electricity is produced? No. Fact is a coal burner is very different to one that would use biofuel as a source. Its not the simple change you would have us believe.

PS - next time try not to insult the person you disagree with. It makes your point of view seem less credible to anyone with half a brain.
 
TooFastTim said:
You are treading dangerously close to a libel suit here.
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Shame. Go for it :D Telkom have tried to sue me for libel do you think I am worried about a casual comment I make anonymously to an anonymous user. I think Im getting a better idea of why you have job difficulties here :) Im not convinced it has to do with the color of your skin :)

If I had a dime for every lamer that has threatened to sue me... well. I would have about 15 dimes :D I dont know if a judge will take you seriously... I know I cant anymore after your last comment.
 
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