Mila
Honorary Master
In the end we will pay for it. Instead of using these new green taxes they will find a way to get taxpayers to be taxed more.
While "loosing " money and enriching themselfs
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In the end we will pay for it. Instead of using these new green taxes they will find a way to get taxpayers to be taxed more.
While "loosing " money and enriching themselfs
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
LOL... imagine if you could sue people for things they say on a forum !
I laughed. I was like "is this guy a joke or is he serious?" Surely he cant be that daft so I have to assume its a joke
I laughed. I was like "is this guy a joke or is he serious?" Surely he cant be that daft so I have to assume its a joke
Else he left SA for USA and has fully embraced their culture of suing anyone at the drop of a hat.
Please read the Sept Popular mechanics it has a well balanced artical on the pro's and cons of the various methods of power generation
September 2010
Energyland
The road to clean energy is full of enticing opportunities – and perilous pitfalls. Picking the best path requires avoiding both starry-eyed hype and cynical fatalism. In this special report, PM debunks 10 of the most pernicious myths that could derail our progress.
http://www.popularmechanics.co.za/content/general/singlepage.asp?fid=2679&pno=1
September 2010
Energyland
The road to clean energy is full of enticing opportunities – and perilous pitfalls. Picking the best path requires avoiding both starry-eyed hype and cynical fatalism. In this special report, PM debunks 10 of the most pernicious myths that could derail our progress.
http://www.popularmechanics.co.za/content/general/singlepage.asp?fid=2679&pno=1
Never = until Jesus returns.
Arrogant = realistic.
If by more energy you mean the input of sunlight, I assumed that. Otherwise, water is the only input. Are you getting a backhander from nuclear interests to push their agenda?
Not really difficult at all. It just takes political backbone more than that of a jellyfish. That’s where it falls down. The fecundity of algae was discovered by accident. It can be determined independently (I did).
Edited from previous posts.
Algal blooms were detected in the waters round about Florida. Florida is warm, coastal and with shallow topsoil (run-off into **salt water** [plenty of that]). My reasoning for the algal bloom phenomenon goes thus:
Florida = desired destination for aged American’s in their ‘twilight years’ = death statistics are above normal as the oldies go to their ‘just reward’ = complaints by grave diggers that they cannot easily dig the graves deep enough to meet health regulations before hitting clay or other water impermeable layers (I believe cremation is becoming popular). The depth of the typical grave is dug in ‘shallow’ topsoil (geologically speaking).
This implies a high water table. This hypothesis is supported by the alligator infested, swampy / marshy ‘Everglades’ area. This hypothesis is further supported by when e-TV used to run a program every Saturday at 18:05 - 'Seconds from Disaster' (they are rerunning it on Sunday now). This is a forensic reconstruction of events leading up to major disasters. On the 6/9/2008 they detailed the disaster of an American airliner which crashed in the Everglades. They made the point that the airliner destruction was so complete because it hit the limestone bedrock under the Everglades swamp surface.
So, phosphate-rich water from rain and irrigation drains into the closest river. The river flows into a coastal lagoon. The lagoon opens-up periodically to the sea. My geography gets a bit shaky here. The ‘sea’ is the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf has warm waters and is not particularly rough (there is little dilution). So when the lagoons open-up to the sea, it provides good conditions for algal growth (nutrients & warm water) = algal blooms.
Thus fuel can be derived from algae (this has been researched). There is plenty of salt water – areas of the sea can be ‘fenced’ with those booms used to contain oil slicks (a positive contribution of oil pollution). The tons of algae can be harvested for fuel. This is in addition to other alternative sources. Q.E.D.
In SA the Southern Ocean is pretty rough so dilution is a hazard. This would imply the construction of breakwaters to fence-off algal growing areas. The areas of algal cultivation are so vast, that evaporation and raised salinity levels will be a problem. Some openings to the sea will be necessary so that the tides can ‘flush’ the algal Petri dishes. Present infrastructure can be used (pumping fuel inland). In areas with no access to the sea, the local growing of biofuel crops may be viable.
PS - next time try not to insult the person you disagree with. It makes your point of view seem less credible to anyone with half a brain.
Ou grote
Honorary Master
Archer
Honorary Master
The rest of the world would disagree on your definition of arrogant.
So no energy from the land is required, no energy required to do the conversion from crops into fuel? Only water is needed. Righto, tell me another one. I am reffering to land based biofuels here, as I did in my initial post. Not algae. It seems we were talking about different things here (algae based vs land based biofuels).
What does grave diggers, florida, old americans, plane crashes etc etc have to do with anything?
Yes I know this, its something I hope comes to fruition as well. But right now there is no commercially viable way of producing fuel from algae that I am aware of. Thus suggesting it as an alternative to anything is pointless.
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Kosmik
Honorary Master
I wish they would use the green taxes on it.....but we all know where that cash is going.
Is Nuclear environmentally friendly???
What worries me is that people like we see and talk to at Telkom will be running these things. There is no accountability in state institutions and I get very worried when they start playing with nuclear fission.
Archer
Honorary Master
Telkom runs power stations?
And yes, nuclear power is far more environmentally friendly than coal power. Nuclear is safer as well. Also note the part of the article where it says an independant organisation will be formed to run the new nuclear power stations. Does nobody read anymore??Telkom runs power stations?
I was talking about people who also suffer from a limited reading ability as well. (hint).
You seriously need to research how much environmental damage is caused by mining Uranium. These power stations also store radioactive waste for 1000's of years. Even decommissioning one single station takes a VERY long time and is VERY expensive.
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Its still cleaner.
Archer
Honorary Master
You obviously missed the post where we compared the deaths from coal and nuclear power (something like 250 000 for coal, and only 47 for nuclear). I wont even go into the diseases caused since coal pollutes water and air, while nuclear waste is (or should be) reasonably well contained. Seriously, coal is waaaaaay worse than nuclear.
Pitbull
Verboten
O wait, so the Nuclear waste is better than the CO2 being burned into the air?
Just curious
Ou grote
Honorary Master
O wait, so the Nuclear waste is better than the CO2 being burned into the air?
Just curious
Actually it is better.
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Its better because they don't just dump it. They seal it and bury it under the ground.
TonyHawk
Expert Member
Doesn't MyBroadband block the IP addresses as well ?
I know there round-abouts... but they don't know that
Where will the money for this come from?
The taxpayer.
Expect higher electricity levies and the such.
No joy.
nothing is free...
"Nou gaan ons k#k en betaal"
wrathex
Expert Member
South Africa contracts specialists for these projects and I do not believe that when it comes to nuclear power that third world standards are the order of the day. Nuclear facilities are managed according to very strict protocols.
This is good news, not only because nuclear power is the most efficient power generation we have, but also because it will create a huge amount of jobs and stimulate our local chemical engineering sector - a huge boost to our economy, and to South Africas future, including that of the whole of Southern Africa.
At last government is investing in the future of this country in a meaningful and long lasting way.
Nuclear waste is a little thorn, perhaps one day we will find a proper solution of how to deal with it, the accident at Chernobyl was a lesson to the whole world and nuclear facilities and nuclear medicine around the world has benefited from the mistakes made in Russia.
This is good news, not only because nuclear power is the most efficient power generation we have, but also because it will create a huge amount of jobs and stimulate our local chemical engineering sector - a huge boost to our economy, and to South Africas future, including that of the whole of Southern Africa.
At last government is investing in the future of this country in a meaningful and long lasting way.
Nuclear waste is a little thorn, perhaps one day we will find a proper solution of how to deal with it, the accident at Chernobyl was a lesson to the whole world and nuclear facilities and nuclear medicine around the world has benefited from the mistakes made in Russia.