Sliding door security

cpeterm123

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Aluminum sliding door with standard lock can be lifted from the track and open. Seems to be a security problem everywhere. How does one avoid that. Thanks for your time and knowledge. peter
 

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Aluminum sliding door with standard lock can be lifted from the track and open. Seems to be a security problem everywhere. How does one avoid that. Thanks for your time and knowledge. peter
Trellidor...or similar. That's in front of both my sliding doors.
 

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Aluminum sliding door with standard lock can be lifted from the track and open. Seems to be a security problem everywhere. How does one avoid that. Thanks for your time and knowledge. peter
Firstly you get a pin lock on the sliding door

Then have a decent solid security gate made.
 

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If you have an alarm system, can fit a magnetic door sensor.

There pin lock as mentioned, and fitting a security door. Then you can leave the sliding door open (for a breeze or whatever) while at home and still be secure.
 

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Aluminum sliding door with standard lock can be lifted from the track and open. Seems to be a security problem everywhere. How does one avoid that. Thanks for your time and knowledge. peter

Does this aluminium door of yours have a top track and a bottom track, or is it one of those flimsy DIY jobs from builders or game? If you have decent tracks fitted top and bottom it would not not be so easy for would be burglars to simply remove the door from the frame.

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supersunbird

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Does this aluminium door of yours have a top track and a bottom track, or is it one of those flimsy DIY jobs from builders or game? If you have decent tracks fitted top and bottom it would not not be so easy for would be burglars to simply remove the door from the frame.

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He is talking about the glass and aluminium sliding door itself, he is not talking about a security gate (whether pro or DIY) like you describe and show, he does not have one yet.
 

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He is talking about the glass and aluminium sliding door itself, he is not talking about a security gate (whether pro or DIY) like you describe and show, he does not have one yet.

Oh I totally misunderstood and thought he meant aluminium security trellis gate. My bad.
 

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+1 for pin lock

Sliding security gate if you feel the prison look is worth it.
 

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In the door at the bottom is a small hole on the inside of the frame. Inside is an adjusting screw. Use a thin flat screwdriver and adjust the door upwards. It will then be very difficult to just lift the door out of the frame.
Also will help to stabilise the door in the frame. A simple bump on it can make it fall right out of the frame if it is not set securely in the frame.
Then add the burglar proofing as recommended above.
 

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In the door at the bottom is a small hole on the inside of the frame. Inside is an adjusting screw. Use a thin flat screwdriver and adjust the door upwards. It will then be very difficult to just lift the door out of the frame.
Also will help to stabilise the door in the frame. A simple bump on it can make it fall right out of the frame if it is not set securely in the frame.
Then add the burglar proofing as recommended above.
Whow, clever. I can try but while I have you on the line ... Screw clock- or anticlockwise
 

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We have 2 locks on the sliding door. The one is by the clip that normally hold the door closed and the other lock is where the door meets up with the solid panel. That lock can either be attached to the floor or the wall above the door. That lock cathes by pushing it in so no need for a key if you are in a panic. It's made by yale. Chamberlains or builders should have stock.

We have not bothered with a gate on the sliding doors as we have very big open solid window panes that can easily be smashed.

So instead we're looking at a something like car smash and grab for your car that is meant for home.
We are busy with a few things and that is on the to do list, for when the budget allows.
We do have an alarmed electric fence and outside sensors for when out or we are sleeping. Then obviously the usual alarm bits for doors and internal stuff.
 

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We also went with Trellidor. Was a bit expensive, but now we have peace of mind, we can leave the sliding doors open at night for cooling, and we know this is gonna last a heck of a long time.
 

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We also went with Trellidor. Was a bit expensive, but now we have peace of mind, we can leave the sliding doors open at night for cooling, and we know this is gonna last a heck of a long time.
Yes, we went with a similar solution, but not Trellidor, 30 years ago. Our security gate stacks right behind the curtain when we want it out of sight, and our sliding door (custom-made wooden frames) can be as open or closed as we want it, with or without the security gate.
 

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We also went with Trellidor. Was a bit expensive, but now we have peace of mind, we can leave the sliding doors open at night for cooling, and we know this is gonna last a heck of a long time.

They are also excellent with their guarantee.
 

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We have 2 locks on the sliding door. The one is by the clip that normally hold the door closed and the other lock is where the door meets up with the solid panel. That lock can either be attached to the floor or the wall above the door. That lock cathes by pushing it in so no need for a key if you are in a panic. It's made by yale. Chamberlains or builders should have stock.

We have not bothered with a gate on the sliding doors as we have very big open solid window panes that can easily be smashed.

So instead we're looking at a something like car smash and grab for your car that is meant for home.
We are busy with a few things and that is on the to do list, for when the budget allows.
We do have an alarmed electric fence and outside sensors for when out or we are sleeping. Then obviously the usual alarm bits for doors and internal stuff.


Thanks. My local slidedoor supplier told me to turn around the clip (that normally locks the door) upwards instead of the usual downward i.e. it moves downwards into the catch .
 

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Thanks. My local slidedoor supplier told me to turn around the clip (that normally locks the door) upwards instead of the usual downward i.e. it moves downwards into the catch .
It can still be forced...

Use to live in a large complex. There was a delinquint teen that use to go through people's sliding doors. Do things like mess up stuff, poop in baths, steal stuff etc.
It only stopped after he got caught.

It did not matter which way the normal latch was he got in.

The 2nd lock spreads the hold on the door to stop the movement required to get the door off
 

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We have 2 locks on the sliding door. The one is by the clip that normally hold the door closed and the other lock is where the door meets up with the solid panel. That lock can either be attached to the floor or the wall above the door. That lock cathes by pushing it in so no need for a key if you are in a panic. It's made by yale. Chamberlains or builders should have stock.

We have not bothered with a gate on the sliding doors as we have very big open solid window panes that can easily be smashed.

So instead we're looking at a something like car smash and grab for your car that is meant for home.
We are busy with a few things and that is on the to do list, for when the budget allows.
We do have an alarmed electric fence and outside sensors for when out or we are sleeping. Then obviously the usual alarm bits for doors and internal stuff.

Not to be nasty but you are wasting your time with the film. I they want in, film is not going to do anything except make it nice and quiet when breaking the glass. I always believe the true deterrent is to increase the visible difficulty in gaining access to your home as a deciding factor. However, if you have large windows with no barriers, installing a barrier against the sliding door is going to be just as pointless ( as per your point ), they will go through the windows instead.

I'd just increase the lock on the sliding door somehow, possibly even some form of deadbolt so they would have to smash to gain entry.
 
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