Slimmer Intel chips

by 2022 yikes LOL by then bateria will be running our pc's at 100x times faster than slim intel cpu's :D
 
Well I get along with 4 cores / 8 threads at 4GHz on the 45nm process so I might just give 32nm a skip :p
 
A traditional, silica-based computer would run through every single possible solution to the problem, one at a time.
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That is just wrong. All I can say is multi-core computing or even GFX computing. And why do we have supercomputers like thoose in Jülich?
 
Gixxa said:
All i say is signature^^
Q6600 @ 3,6 Ghz on H²O, EVGA GTX 285 SSC @ 710/1600/1400, MSI P45 Neo3-FR, 8 GB OCZ/Corsair RAM, Coming soon -> Intel Core i9 (Six Cores, 32 nm end of the year)
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Gulftown - Extreme/Performance Desktop 6 Cores LGA-1366 Core i9 Price : $1499 ($999) (src wiki) :eek:
 
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Gixxa said:
That is just wrong. All I can say is multi-core computing or even GFX computing. And why do we have supercomputers like thoose in Jülich?
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You think a million processors in a single drop of water for instance would get nailed by a super computer?

Imagine if they can get the DNA or code them to play games and run OS's, imagine how many cores you could have on an intel size cpu of today?

Technology is moving so fast that at some point someone will discover something better than silica for cpu's.

"The computing potential of DNA far exceeds that of any other material," said Karmella Haynes, a researcher at Davidson College and lead study author. "If we figure out how to increase that capacity in a practical manner we will have much more computing power."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2315637/posts
 
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Of course someone will come past it by some day. If Oppenheimer would have not invented the A-Bomb someone else would have.... I just don't see the Bacteria thing up on the plan the next 50 years. But yes in the future someone will find out how it works.

@ psc

No problem I can get the CPU without VAT. 19% in Germany.
 
So in the future, when you say "my PC died" you might actually mean it?

You probably wouldn't want to touch a PC that has a virus or bug then.

Generalisation is amazing... my cat can go between 3 food bowls in my house without using the same route or visiting the same bowl twice (provided I don't refill the bowls) .. since he licks himself constantly he must be covered in bacteria. I have a supercomputer cat. Or he is silently screaming under the load of bacteria connecting him to his food bowls.
 
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So in the future, when you say "my PC died" you might actually mean it?

You probably wouldn't want to touch a PC that has a virus or bug then.

Generalisation is amazing... my cat can go between 3 food bowls in my house without using the same route or visiting the same bowl twice (provided I don't refill the bowls) .. since he licks himself constantly he must be covered in bacteria. I have a supercomputer cat. Or he is silently screaming under the load of bacteria connecting him to his food bowls.
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i lol'd and then i lol'd some moar :D!
 
TheRift said:
So in the future, when you say "my PC died" you might actually mean it?

You probably wouldn't want to touch a PC that has a virus or bug then.

Generalisation is amazing... my cat can go between 3 food bowls in my house without using the same route or visiting the same bowl twice (provided I don't refill the bowls) .. since he licks himself constantly he must be covered in bacteria. I have a supercomputer cat. Or he is silently screaming under the load of bacteria connecting him to his food bowls.
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LOL i doubt dna encoded bateria and one your cat is the same thing :D
 
is anyone else curious how Intel are gonna make 4nm transistors? I mean, the industry is scratching heads and sweating beads over 22nm process, yet Intel kicks open the doors and starts screaming "4nm!!!". I'm not doubting the possibility of it, but I am doubting the sheer cost of it. Hmmm, maybe has been doing some R & D on Silicon-Germanium semiconductors and have found better flexibility with them???
I read a while ago that AMD was researching Si-Ge with IBM, so maybe Intel is also joining in on the fun?

Regardless, it should make things interesting to see where processors go.
 
Microelectronic engineers are just dumb. We all know this. They scratch their heads trying to figure out how to get to 22nm, they must be struggling to get to 4nm.

I honestly believe in the power of giving the job to the right people. It's so obvious, really. Intel or AMD or IBM or whoever is out their in the microelectronics world need to give this job to the marketing team. The laws of physics do not apply to The Marketing Team (tm).
 
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Microelectronic engineers are just dumb. We all know this. They scratch their heads trying to figure out how to get to 22nm, they must be struggling to get to 4nm.

I honestly believe in the power of giving the job to the right people. It's so obvious, really. Intel or AMD or IBM or whoever is out their in the microelectronics world need to give this job to the marketing team. The laws of physics do not apply to The Marketing Team (tm).
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lol, yeah. Honestly, how can intel start saying they able to get 22nm chips out in 2012 when other engineers are sitting trying to make the transistors at that size, just seems like pipe dreams to me.

However, if we let the engineering team do marketing too we would have a accurate release dates, which won't impress anyone.
 
There's a tech report out somewhere regarding the size reduction of transistors. I have it somewhere on a mailing list I'm on. Too lazy to dig it up. Anyway, the jist of it was that engineers will need to rethink the physical laws around transistors and switching as they continue to reduce in size. The authors indicated that unless people rethink the theory on transisters they will reach a limit to the actual size they can shrink it to. Apparently at these much smaller sizes things start to act differently than expected.
 
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There's a tech report out somewhere regarding the size reduction of transistors. I have it somewhere on a mailing list I'm on. Too lazy to dig it up. Anyway, the jist of it was that engineers will need to rethink the physical laws around transistors and switching as they continue to reduce in size. The authors indicated that unless people rethink the theory on transisters they will reach a limit to the actual size they can shrink it to. Apparently at these much smaller sizes things start to act differently than expected.
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Well, I do know that when you shrink the transistor, you get more current leakage, so less efficient unless you use a better insulator.

Any yeah, the Laws of Physics are quite an annoyance, and the semiconductor engineers are getting very close to a wall. Now I can't remember the terminology, but basically, there's a little "port" which only needs a tiny current and voltage to work, but this opens or closes the main gate on the transistor (a switch, which uses a tiny current to open a "tap" or gate and allow more current to pass the the transistor, creating a 1, if that tiny current is stopped, the gate close, no more current can pass and then you get a 0).

I read that the part on the transistor that opens and closes the gate (the part that uses a tiny current), is will get to small to allow enough electrons to pass. They also are limitations to the Silicon it self, and how the hell are they gonna actually make transistors smaller then 22nm which current light technology?
 
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