Someone please provide knowledge to this child

Bernie said:
Do you know how much calls cost if you phone has flappy bird on.. tell your friends to be careful out there and make sure they know whats loaded on their phones. :p
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Guys, can we stop with the Flappy Bird jokes now? It doesn't help trying to have a serious discussion that needs to be put out in the open when you gamers inject your Flappy Bird nonsense in here. Flappy Bird does not impact the APN. FACT!
 
BeatBot said:
Could you please go into more detail? If then this is how they run why are hackers not busy exploiting this for their own good? If this so called tap and make cheap call apps do exist, how are they freely available on app stores in plain sight of network providers? Is that not stealing from them?
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Who said it was freely available on the stores? The tap feature uses the accelerometer feature in most phones and submits the signal using your iccid chip.
 
BeatBot said:
Hi,

I know the heading does not really give out much but bear with me here and read two more sentences.

I have a friend who during a chat said to me it costs more to make a phone call from and Iphone then it does from a blackberry :D . I was not a prick about it so I went on to listen, she (and apparently a whole community of her friends) are convinced that because you pay so much for the phone you also pay way more to make calls on these devices :D:D:D:D:D:D .

Anyway so I plan on sending her a link to this post... provided it doesn't cost too much airtime on phone to open it, LOL.

Can someone please help me to provide some convincing knowledge to a friend.
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You can send her the link but first we need pics of your friend :)
 
DJ... said:
Because it is Apple proprietary software and hardware. You can't easily intercept it, unlike ordinary GSM networks. And people have created spoof dialers, but you certainly won't find them in the Appstore. They're typically sold on the dark-net, and I ain't going near there, thank you very much. I'll rather just avoid Apple all together...
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This.

It's risky business - you may very well end up being prosecuted for acquiring illegal network access. The spoof dialers don't usually work for very long until the National Security Agencies TOR62-rehash their encryption algorithms.
 
wazarmoto said:
Who said it was freely available on the stores? The tap feature uses the accelerometer feature in most phones and submits the signal using your iccid chip.
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I've heard about this, but it makes no sense to me. The Apple GSMidrouter chip is not connected to the iccid chip. How can the one interfere with the other?
 
DJ... said:
Because it is Apple proprietary software and hardware. You can't easily intercept it, unlike ordinary GSM networks. And people have created spoof dialers, but you certainly won't find them in the Appstore. They're typically sold on the dark-net, and I ain't going near there, thank you very much. I'll rather just avoid Apple all together...
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It's also one of the reasons to Jailbreak your IOS device - so that you can download these dialers from sources (cydia etc.) other than the app store. I'm not sure what the legalities are tbh, but I get the impression service providers aren't too concerned about the minority of people using Blackberry spoofers on their IOS devices.
 
DJ... said:
I've heard about this, but it makes no sense to me. The Apple GSMidrouter chip is not connected to the iccid chip. How can the one interfere with the other?
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I've seen studies linking the interference to flux resistance between buses.

My memory might be betraying me.
 
DJ... said:
I've heard about this, but it makes no sense to me. The Apple GSMidrouter chip is not connected to the iccid chip. How can the one interfere with the other?
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With an iPhone you need to still be on iOS 6 for that to work. But it works on most droids.

They usually don't interfere with other. They are quiet well behaved and never disturb each other.
 
Prof. said:
I've seen studies linking the interference to flux resistance between buses.

My memory might be betraying me.
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wazarmoto said:
With an iPhone you need to still be on iOS 6 for that to work. But it works on most droids.

They usually don't interfere with other. They are quiet well behaved and never disturb each other.
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Makes sense. Thanks...
 
BeatBot, do you perhaps have a blog, or a site where we could post this?

Once the mods see it will probably be deleted...:(
 
I made a call with a Nokia 3310 while inside the Delta Motor Corporation Opel Monza GSI COTY 1991 and actually got money back from MTN.

My iPhone 5S on the other hand costs me twice as much for calls when compared to the 4S I used to have. Apparently it's because the fingerprint sensor is linked to a special APN that automatically doubles your call charges every time you use it. I tried covering the Apple logo with a Blackberry sticker but that only made the phone incredibly unreliable and worsened my car's fuel consumption.
 
DJ... said:
Maybe, but it depends on your phone...
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You have to careful should the total cost of ownership be upfront subsidised. This is to encourage buyers to make the purchase decision to ultimately be charged with “extras” beyond their knowledge.
 
vinodh said:
I made a call with a Nokia 3310 while inside the Delta Motor Corporation Opel Monza GSI COTY 1991 and actually got money back from MTN.

My iPhone 5S on the other hand costs me twice as much for calls when compared to the 4S I used to have. Apparently it's because the fingerprint sensor is linked to a special APN that automatically doubles your call charges every time you use it. I tried covering the Apple logo with a Blackberry sticker but that only made the phone incredibly unreliable and worsened my car's fuel consumption.
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This is a serious thread, please respect it and go troll elsewhere. :mad:
 
vinodh said:
I made a call with a Nokia 3310 while inside the Delta Motor Corporation Opel Monza GSI COTY 1991 and actually got money back from MTN.

My iPhone 5S on the other hand costs me twice as much for calls when compared to the 4S I used to have. Apparently it's because the fingerprint sensor is linked to a special APN that automatically doubles your call charges every time you use it. I tried covering the Apple logo with a Blackberry sticker but that only made the phone incredibly unreliable and worsened my car's fuel consumption.
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Fscking trolls...
 
Sorry guys. That was uncalled for. Didn't realise that this was a really serious discussion. I'll go back and sit under my bridge.
 
I am still wondering how this can be possible and let to happen. How then is BlackBerry not implementing it? And nokia as well. I mean if Apple and Samsung has done so why not them, BlackBerry could then make some extra bucks coz lets all be honest they kinda need it right now.

I do now understand a bit more into how this could be possible. But if it is, how then can we be told calls cost this much on all devices, yet there is an extra charge. Is that not false advertising? fraud? I mean would BlackBerry then take Apple and Samsung to court and win? I do not know much of this law stuff but I do understand I cannot tell you that bread costs R10 at my shop, then when you give me a R20 I give you back R9.50.
 
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