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Star Citizen
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Herr der Verboten
Honorary Master
WC was greatIt does, gameplay reveal is on the 18th. The customisation hints to a more expansive game than what the constrictive universe allows, and the solo experience does sound like a standalone Star Wars episode.
Back in the day, Wing Commander came first, now Squadron 42 will come second
Fulcrum29
Honorary Master
Star Citizen surpasses $300 million in crowdfunding from almost 3 million pledges - VideoGamer
Net orbit margin - VideoGamer
www.videogamer.com
So... more than $600 million have been pumped into Cloud Imperium. It would be funny to see Cloud Imperium being acquired by another publisher, only to witness a repeat to what has happened with Freelancer.
Fulcrum29
Honorary Master
WC was great
A space full of furballs.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...-squadron-42-roadmap-now-has-its-own-roadmap/
You couldn't make this up....
You couldn't make this up....
Fulcrum29
Honorary Master
I doubt SQ42 will release next year. I also doubt that it will release in close cycle to any other space sim or space based game. Perhaps 2023?
People still throw money at Star Citizen, and many players have recently criticised the incremental updates as underwhelming and lacking roadmap consistently, all the while CIG is hosting massive hanger sales which is always well-received by the same community.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the crowd sourced title, /cough studio, be valued a billion dollars (obviously including other investments) at launch or even cancellation. In the case the development does become 'turbulent' it is likely to be picked up by another publisher. Freelancer went through this...
People still throw money at Star Citizen, and many players have recently criticised the incremental updates as underwhelming and lacking roadmap consistently, all the while CIG is hosting massive hanger sales which is always well-received by the same community.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the crowd sourced title, /cough studio, be valued a billion dollars (obviously including other investments) at launch or even cancellation. In the case the development does become 'turbulent' it is likely to be picked up by another publisher. Freelancer went through this...
Brenden_E
Executive Member
Forget about it and if it ever does come out it will be a nice surprise.
I think it is broken beyond repair.
Herr der Verboten
Honorary Master
CIG even had its own employees recreating the star citizen business model: Descent Underground.
Which of course made it into production. lol.
Which of course made it into production. lol.
I spent a few hours playing SC recently. What does work is nice, and it looks good. But dear lord the bugs!
For the money and time they've had, I expected a lot more and way less issues.
What's the point in making a realistic flight model etc etc etc if you can't even get into the damn spaceship.
For the money and time they've had, I expected a lot more and way less issues.
What's the point in making a realistic flight model etc etc etc if you can't even get into the damn spaceship.
Sworaxe
Expert Member
I got a bundle with my GPU upgrade years ago. Never settle bundle 2015. I have been checking in from time to time. Looking at the state of the game. They have added some game play loops but its all very shallow.
5 Years later this is what i have seen.
+- 50 player limit per server. Server meshing is supposed to raise the max players but the tech keeps getting pushed back repeatedly. I personally think the game play loops right now are so limited that adding more players would make certain areas so overcrowded, as to cause problems.
Constant server crashes. 30K errors.
FPS AI are either dumb or are super human. Nothing in between.
Game crashes.
Inventory system likes to break as well. Sometimes you can lose stuff at random when logging out.
Persistence they bragged about does not work 100% either, can lose ships, money and items at random due to bugs.
Huge memory hog, recently upgraded from 16gb to 32gb and the game brings total system usage to 18gb.
Texture issues. Some stations have floor textures that look like two different things are trying to occupy the same space.
Sound errors. Sometimes you get a random very loud POP sound and then all game sound is gone.
Visual issues. Lots and lots of clipping issues. UI brightness and color cannot be changed, being on a bright planet makes UI invisible. Likewise when flying with the sun in you direct view. Sometimes the smoke dust and cloud system breaks then you get these black squares instead of dust.
Graphics settings make no meaningful difference on fps.
Ground vehicles handle really crappy, flip over and get stuck at random. driving on low gravity is the worst.
Face over IP is buggy as hell.
Animation bugs. Collision bugs, there is a door at a station called grim hex, for some reason the seems to be a collision box for a asteroid there. Cant see it but you are blocked by it and can climb over it.
Going from 0 g to normal g while doing eva, causes animation to spas out, some times its bad enough to kill you.
Other times you can get stuck inside something. If you happen to be carrying something in your hand when this happens, it could be thrown out into space and well then newtons 1st law takes over.
The new prison and crime system is a bugged mess right now, for one when you spawn in the prison sometimes you don't get the gear needed to reduce prison time. Other times you get it but as soon as you holster the mining laser, it bugs out and is stuck in your characters hand. Prison sentence done, you are supposed to spawn on the nearest space station with your pre prison stuff, instead occasionally you spawn in the middle of space, near nothing and still in prison equipment.
Animations can freak out and get stuck if you press movement buttons during character animations like sitting down. Landed ships doors can bug out and refuse to close just because you opened them and did not wait for its animation to finish before walking on it.
FPS guns, some times the inventory system does not allow you to refill partially used clips. so you have bunch of clips with partial ammo.
Mining asteroids bugged. They disappear as soon as they are broken up for collection.
Fps mining works but animation for storing the ores can bug out. This only is fixed by allowing a sit down animation to complete. Like taking a seat on a ship. This is really annoying if you are deep inside a cave, making you backtrack for 5 mins just to fix it.
Scanning for ores also hit or miss. does not work 100%.
The good stuff about it, it is really visually impressive sometimes and the flight model is really good.
There are many more problems and the whole thing feels cobbled together with press stick and hope.
So if you plan to play this, well get used to searching for "x problem workaround" CIG even has a special space allocated in bug reports filed by users to detail a workaround for any bugs you find.
5 Years later this is what i have seen.
+- 50 player limit per server. Server meshing is supposed to raise the max players but the tech keeps getting pushed back repeatedly. I personally think the game play loops right now are so limited that adding more players would make certain areas so overcrowded, as to cause problems.
Constant server crashes. 30K errors.
FPS AI are either dumb or are super human. Nothing in between.
Game crashes.
Inventory system likes to break as well. Sometimes you can lose stuff at random when logging out.
Persistence they bragged about does not work 100% either, can lose ships, money and items at random due to bugs.
Huge memory hog, recently upgraded from 16gb to 32gb and the game brings total system usage to 18gb.
Texture issues. Some stations have floor textures that look like two different things are trying to occupy the same space.
Sound errors. Sometimes you get a random very loud POP sound and then all game sound is gone.
Visual issues. Lots and lots of clipping issues. UI brightness and color cannot be changed, being on a bright planet makes UI invisible. Likewise when flying with the sun in you direct view. Sometimes the smoke dust and cloud system breaks then you get these black squares instead of dust.
Graphics settings make no meaningful difference on fps.
Ground vehicles handle really crappy, flip over and get stuck at random. driving on low gravity is the worst.
Face over IP is buggy as hell.
Animation bugs. Collision bugs, there is a door at a station called grim hex, for some reason the seems to be a collision box for a asteroid there. Cant see it but you are blocked by it and can climb over it.
Going from 0 g to normal g while doing eva, causes animation to spas out, some times its bad enough to kill you.
Other times you can get stuck inside something. If you happen to be carrying something in your hand when this happens, it could be thrown out into space and well then newtons 1st law takes over.
The new prison and crime system is a bugged mess right now, for one when you spawn in the prison sometimes you don't get the gear needed to reduce prison time. Other times you get it but as soon as you holster the mining laser, it bugs out and is stuck in your characters hand. Prison sentence done, you are supposed to spawn on the nearest space station with your pre prison stuff, instead occasionally you spawn in the middle of space, near nothing and still in prison equipment.
Animations can freak out and get stuck if you press movement buttons during character animations like sitting down. Landed ships doors can bug out and refuse to close just because you opened them and did not wait for its animation to finish before walking on it.
FPS guns, some times the inventory system does not allow you to refill partially used clips. so you have bunch of clips with partial ammo.
Mining asteroids bugged. They disappear as soon as they are broken up for collection.
Fps mining works but animation for storing the ores can bug out. This only is fixed by allowing a sit down animation to complete. Like taking a seat on a ship. This is really annoying if you are deep inside a cave, making you backtrack for 5 mins just to fix it.
Scanning for ores also hit or miss. does not work 100%.
The good stuff about it, it is really visually impressive sometimes and the flight model is really good.
There are many more problems and the whole thing feels cobbled together with press stick and hope.
So if you plan to play this, well get used to searching for "x problem workaround" CIG even has a special space allocated in bug reports filed by users to detail a workaround for any bugs you find.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...-squadron-42-roadmap-now-has-its-own-roadmap/
You couldn't make this up....
I had to give you a like just for the sheer effort involved
Haha, I was thinking the same!
When I first started playing I thought, "Lets help em out and report bugs." Then I realised they wouldn't need help finding bugs at all!
The quirkiest I had: Having just spawned at a space station I run out my room into the hall. My character cried out in pain, started bleeding out and died right there in the hallway. I guess I stubbed my toe?
Brenden_E
Executive Member
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...-squadron-42-roadmap-now-has-its-own-roadmap/
You couldn't make this up....
Fulcrum29
Honorary Master
Star Citizen is adding another development studio
CIG has partnered with Canadian company Turbulent to launch a studio dedicated to making new Star Citizen content.
Now I have to ask, it seems that they are going back to their initial Kickstarter promises which they stripped whilst in active development, but when will the title then launch? Yes, this is a game as a service where the lingo "on an ongoing basis" is loosely applied meaning that the game will continue to develop in release cycle.
What have their many development studios then be doing, develop Squadron 42? It was even't even a week or two ago where Roberts' said that Squadron 42 will release when ready and won't issue a date. CIG have given many 'expected' dates in terms with when the title is quarterly expected, but that have been silenced the day when they removed the roadmap which is now returning, anew,
Upcoming Roadmap Update - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42
Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.
robertsspaceindustries.com
There are more in the link, including a video update on how the roadmap will look like.
As concluded,
no more promises, then why bring back the roadmap into the public domain? Yes, people want to know about the progress, but it may also set unrealistic expectations (odd move to avoid promises being made
)Anyway. I don't see SQ42 released in the next 2-3 years. Maybe late 2023 there may be a beta build open to selected players to not spoil an 8-year game in the making.
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Sworaxe
Expert Member
Saw that, here is hoping they do not get the scales wrong as the one studio did with the ships and end up redoing a whole years worth of work.
Till they get the fancy iCache and server meshing sorted. Star Citizen is about as MMO as quake 3 arena.
50 players per server does not an MMO make.
Thing about SQ42 is, the longer it takes them to complete it, the more those expensive Hollywood facial animations will start to look dated. A high selling point of SQ42 according to CR.
Till they get the fancy iCache and server meshing sorted. Star Citizen is about as MMO as quake 3 arena.
50 players per server does not an MMO make.
Thing about SQ42 is, the longer it takes them to complete it, the more those expensive Hollywood facial animations will start to look dated. A high selling point of SQ42 according to CR.
Binary_Bark
Forging
Just team up with Hello Games and Frontier Development
Herr der Verboten
Honorary Master
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