State capture inquiry begins

[R13...]

I found the bit where they say Zwane's choir went to India instead of the Estina beneficiaries only to have to return in a hurry because they ate some curry and contracted Delhi Belly lol.

 

[ShaunSA]

I found the bit where they say Zwane's choir went to India instead of the Estina beneficiaries only to have to return in a hurry because they ate some curry and contracted Delhi Belly lol.

 

[surface]

I found the bit where they say Zwane's choir went to India instead of the Estina beneficiaries only to have to return in a hurry because they ate some curry and contracted Delhi Belly lol.

 

[TysonRoux]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capture

State capture is a type of systemic political corruption in which private interests significantly influence a state's decision-making processes to their own advantage.

Deputy Finance Minister Mcebisi Jonas said he had been offered a ministerial position by the Guptas shortly before the dismissal of Finance Minister Nhlanhla Nene in December 2015, but had rejected the offer as "it makes a mockery of our hard-earned democracy‚ the trust of our people and no one apart from the President of the Republic appoints ministers".[19] The Gupta family denied offering Jonas the job of Finance Minister.[20] In 2016, Paul O'Sullivan's 'Forensics for Justice' published a report, which alleged that South Africa's criminal justice system had been 'captured' by the underworld.[21]

In May 2017, Jacob Zuma denied the allegation of blocking an attempt to set up a commission of inquiry to probe state capture.[22]

Following a formal complaint submitted in March 2016 by a catholic priest, Father Stanslaus Muyebe,[23] the Guptas' alleged "state capture" was investigated by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela. President Zuma and Minister Des van Rooyen applied for a court order to prevent the publication of the report on 14 October 2016, Madonsela's last day in office.[24] Van Rooyen's application was dismissed, and the President withdrew his application, leading to the release of the report on 2 November 2016. The report recommended establishment of a judicial commission of enquiry into the issues identified,[25] including a full probe of Zuma's dealings with the Guptas, with findings to be published within 180 days. The report lead to the establishment of the Zondo Commission of Inquiry in 2018 setup to investigate allegations of state capture in South Africa.

Zuma and Van Rooyen denied any wrongdoing.[26] The Guptas' lawyer disputed the evidence in the report,[27][28] and the family welcomed the opportunity to challenge the report's findings in an official inquiry.[29][30]

On 25 November 2016, Zuma announced that the Presidency would be reviewing the contents of the state capture report.[31] He said it "was done in a funny way" with "no fairness at all," and argued he was not given enough time to respond to the public protector.[32] On 11 September 2017 the former Finance Minister, Pravin Gordhan, estimated the cost of state capture at 250 billion Rand, in a presentation at the University of Cape Town Graduate School of Business.[33] In an exclusive interview with ANN7 (belonging to the Gupta Family), South African President Jacob Zuma said 'State Capture' was a fancy word used by media houses for propaganda proliferation. He said that a real state capture would include seizure of the three arms of the constitution - Legislative, Executive and Judiciary - which has never been the case in South Africa.[34]

The 2017 book How to Steal a City details state capture within the Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality in South Africa during the Zuma government era.

The South African news publication The Daily Maverick estimated that state capture cost the county roughly R1.5 trillion (roughly US$100 billion) in the four years preceding 2019.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

state capture cost the county roughly R1.5 trillion (roughly US$100 billion) in the four years preceding 2019.

no worries, CR tells us investments are streaming in ...

 

[TysonRoux]

 

[santaman202]

http://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/zu...ommission-aimed-at-tarnishing-his-reputation/

The zuma surname will be remembered for all the wrong reasons

 

[TysonRoux]

 

[Gordon_R]

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...cting-head-of-kzn-hawks-organised-crime-unit/

The appointment of Colonel WS “Welcome” Mhlongo to the key position of acting Provincial Commander of the Serious Organised Crime unit in KwaZulu-Natal flies in the face of President Cyril Ramaphosa’s commitment to cleaning up criminal elements working within the law enforcement cluster and who had enabled State Capture.

These Zuptoids are still fighting back. The SANEF has written an article saying this particular Hawks officer has laid charges against the journalist for leaking the story posted earlier: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...ists-can-have-a-chilling-effect-on-newsrooms/

A charge was laid at the Durban Central police station by Colonel WS “Welcome” Mhlongo, who was the subject of Thamm’s expose in Daily Maverick. As a result, an investigating officer contacted Thamm asking her to reveal her sources.

Thamm will respond in an affidavit that she will not reveal her sources.

They are also attempting to intimidate other journalists:

It has emerged that police have indicated that they are investigating charges laid by Durban businessman Roy Moodley against GroundUp, reporter Aidan Jones and Citizen editor Trevor Stevens. Jones had written an article for GroundUp exposing alleged corruption involving Moodley in relation to the Passenger Rail Association of South Africa. The article was republished in The Citizen and Daily Maverick (hence, presumably, leading to the police visit to the online publication’s Joburg offices).

 

[The_Librarian]

http://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/zu...ommission-aimed-at-tarnishing-his-reputation/

He does not want to face the consequences of his actions.

 

[The_Librarian]

These Zuptoids are still fighting back. The SANEF has written an article saying this particular Hawks officer has laid charges against the journalist for leaking the story posted earlier: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...ists-can-have-a-chilling-effect-on-newsrooms/


They are also attempting to intimidate other journalists:

Not easy being a journo... Strongs to them!

 

[ForceFate]

He does not want to face the consequences of his actions.

There's no reputation to speak of. He's deluded.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Going back to the agreement made with Zuma’s council,

https://www.timeslive.co.za/politic...as-jacob-zuma-arrives-at-state-capture-probe/

Zondo described what will now happen, saying the commission’s legal team will indicate to Zuma's lawyers what its areas of interest are in each witness's statement or affidavit on which the commission would like the former president to testify.

Thereafter, Zuma will provide, through his legal team, statements that indicate his responses to these aspects.

This process is expected to take more than two weeks.

"The agreement is that counsel for the former president will meet before the end of the next two weeks with a view to the commission's legal team making available a document which indicates exactly which areas in the various affidavits of witnesses they would like the former president to give information about," Zondo said.

"The two teams will agree on the timeframe within which the former president's counsel will provide the former president's statements in regards to the specific areas of interest … If the two sides are not able to agree on the timeframe, they will approach me.

"It is contemplated within this agreement that at a certain stage the former president will come back and give evidence and it is contemplated that with the process that has been agreed to by all sides, it may well be that the time in which he needs to testify might be shortened."

This meeting should have happened on August the 2nd. The public isn’t party to the counsel gathering, but I am curious as to what the outcome may have been. To establish that Zuma must return as a witness at a certain stage is vague. I am quite sure the two teams won't be able to agree and that they will have to approach Zondo, but when?

I guess we have to wait until the 12th.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Paywalled article:

https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/news/2019-08-11-jacob-zumas-zondo-bill-paid-by-state/

Jacob Zuma's Zondo bill paid by state

When Jacob Zuma's lawyers put up a fight at the Zondo commission of inquiry into state capture, accusing it of being biased and unfair, the state footed their bill.

The department of justice told the Sunday Times that it had paid Zuma's legal fees every time his lawyers communicated with the department and when he appeared at the commission last month...

 

[Fulcrum29]

I see it is nothing new...

http://www.702.co.za/articles/34032...for-zondo-commission-witnesses-including-zuma

Taxpayers are paying for Zondo Commission witnesses, including Zuma

According to the Business Day, not only are taxpayers footing the bill for the Zondo Commission of Inquiry into State Capture, but taxpayers are also paying legal fees for some implicated officials and witnesses including former president Jacob Zuma.

According to the Business Day, not only are taxpayers footing the bill for the Zondo Commission of Inquiry into State Capture, but taxpayers are also paying legal fees for some implicated officials and witnesses including former president Jacob Zuma.

 

[The_Librarian]

If I were in charge, I would've said that each and every accused can jolly well pay for his/her own court expenses (lawyers etc). If said induhvidual is found not guilty, then the State will pay a refund.

If said induhvidual is found guilty, toughies.

 

[TysonRoux]

A long but interesting read.

How State Capture Inc funded the ANC

Regiments Capital’s attempts to convert its political connections into contracts shows how money subverted the party.

Last month the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) held public hearings on the Political Party Funding Act, which will force parties to disclose donations and, in the process, reveal how money shapes our politics.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-08-13-how-state-capture-inc-funded-the-anc/

 

[Gordon_R]

A long but interesting read.

How State Capture Inc funded the ANC

Regiments Capital’s attempts to convert its political connections into contracts shows how money subverted the party.

Last month the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) held public hearings on the Political Party Funding Act, which will force parties to disclose donations and, in the process, reveal how money shapes our politics.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-08-13-how-state-capture-inc-funded-the-anc/

Rather long to read in one go, and much information about Gauteng politicians that I have never heard of, but evidence that wide-scale corruption has been going on for decades.

The Guptas were more brazen, and went straight for the top...

 

[The_Mowgs]

Rather long to read in one go, and much information about Gauteng politicians that I have never heard of, but evidence that wide-scale corruption has been going on for decades.

The Guptas were more brazen, and went straight for the top...

This is the tip, trust me there is so much more to come.

 

[TysonRoux]

Captain obvious has spoken.

Jonas: There’d be no state capture if ANC wasn’t captured


Former Deputy Finance Minister Mcebisi Jonas said there would be no state capture if the governing party was not captured.

Jonas was speaking at the launch of his book After Dawn: Hope After State Capture on Tuesday evening in Johannesburg.

He has reflected on the time he was offered the finance minister position and R600 million by the Gupta brothers, saying it was clear that they had political strength.

Public figures attending Jonas’s book launch include Reserve Bank Governor Lesetja Kganyago, Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan and United Democratic Movement leader Bantu Holomisa.