You keep referring to him as president for one....
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State capture inquiry begins
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Excalibur
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Mista_Mobsta
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So will SARS get involved should the lifestyle audits find these trough feeders guilty of "irregular income" or will the parliamentary slap on the wrist be applicable?
Mike Hoxbig
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When did our country change its name?
Yes, I knew about that one, now just find me the source that states that South Africa has the same rules of etiquette relating to past Presidents? Do you refer to FW De Klerk as President De Klerk?
TysonRoux
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The troll does not refer to the current South African president as "president", only his dear leader Zupta gets that.
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But Zuma qualifies for prisoner 36462626
lol yes, we should refer to him as the prisoner from now on
daveza
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https://www.timeslive.co.za/politic...-examine-zuma-over-state-capture-allegations/
Redi Tlhabi wants to cross-examine Zuma over state capture allegations
Can't wait - Butternut loves being cross-examined.
Redi Tlhabi wants to cross-examine Zuma over state capture allegations
Can't wait - Butternut loves being cross-examined.
He's going to get wrecked. Siphiwe Nyanda and Ngoako Ramatlhodi could also rip him to shreds in cross-examination.
"Why did you appoint me minister if you believed me to be an apartheid spy?"
TheChamp
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Sideshow Bob
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I have seen that if one keeps feeding trolls, that is oxygen for them. I also do that mistake to feed them and I need to stop.
Zuma: As you are aware, anti-transformation agents within the NEC forced my hand and made me appoint members of their faction. This faction, led by Thabo Mbeki, also an apartheid spy, and Kenneth Meshoe, who is secretly raising a biblical army in the basement of Luthuli House with the aim of overthrowing the South African government, is also conspiring with Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, who no-one really knows what goes on in her head.
The above is word-for-word how it's going to play out.
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R13...
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I heard some analyst say the commission might refuse to allow her to cross examine him. The argument being Zuma's conspiracies aren't part of the commissions terms of reference and it'd be useless to waste time indulging his delusional ramblings. She must just sue him if she wants recourse
Sideshow Bob
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https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...related-to-estina-dairy-farm-project-20190724
I must say I am very impressed by interpreter. I don't know isiZulu much but it certainly looks like she is doing great job. Perhaps isiZulu speakers here can confirm. She hardly pauses between translations - either way.
I must say I am very impressed by interpreter. I don't know isiZulu much but it certainly looks like she is doing great job. Perhaps isiZulu speakers here can confirm. She hardly pauses between translations - either way.
R13...
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I found the bit where they say Zwane's choir went to India instead of the Estina beneficiaries only to have to return in a hurry because they ate some curry and contracted Delhi Belly lol.
ShaunSA
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TysonRoux
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capture
State capture is a type of systemic political corruption in which private interests significantly influence a state's decision-making processes to their own advantage.
Deputy Finance Minister Mcebisi Jonas said he had been offered a ministerial position by the Guptas shortly before the dismissal of Finance Minister Nhlanhla Nene in December 2015, but had rejected the offer as "it makes a mockery of our hard-earned democracy‚ the trust of our people and no one apart from the President of the Republic appoints ministers".[19] The Gupta family denied offering Jonas the job of Finance Minister.[20] In 2016, Paul O'Sullivan's 'Forensics for Justice' published a report, which alleged that South Africa's criminal justice system had been 'captured' by the underworld.[21]
In May 2017, Jacob Zuma denied the allegation of blocking an attempt to set up a commission of inquiry to probe state capture.[22]
Following a formal complaint submitted in March 2016 by a catholic priest, Father Stanslaus Muyebe,[23] the Guptas' alleged "state capture" was investigated by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela. President Zuma and Minister Des van Rooyen applied for a court order to prevent the publication of the report on 14 October 2016, Madonsela's last day in office.[24] Van Rooyen's application was dismissed, and the President withdrew his application, leading to the release of the report on 2 November 2016. The report recommended establishment of a judicial commission of enquiry into the issues identified,[25] including a full probe of Zuma's dealings with the Guptas, with findings to be published within 180 days. The report lead to the establishment of the Zondo Commission of Inquiry in 2018 setup to investigate allegations of state capture in South Africa.
Zuma and Van Rooyen denied any wrongdoing.[26] The Guptas' lawyer disputed the evidence in the report,[27][28] and the family welcomed the opportunity to challenge the report's findings in an official inquiry.[29][30]
On 25 November 2016, Zuma announced that the Presidency would be reviewing the contents of the state capture report.[31] He said it "was done in a funny way" with "no fairness at all," and argued he was not given enough time to respond to the public protector.[32] On 11 September 2017 the former Finance Minister, Pravin Gordhan, estimated the cost of state capture at 250 billion Rand, in a presentation at the University of Cape Town Graduate School of Business.[33] In an exclusive interview with ANN7 (belonging to the Gupta Family), South African President Jacob Zuma said 'State Capture' was a fancy word used by media houses for propaganda proliferation. He said that a real state capture would include seizure of the three arms of the constitution - Legislative, Executive and Judiciary - which has never been the case in South Africa.[34]
The 2017 book How to Steal a City details state capture within the Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality in South Africa during the Zuma government era.
The South African news publication The Daily Maverick estimated that state capture cost the county roughly R1.5 trillion (roughly US$100 billion) in the four years preceding 2019.
State capture is a type of systemic political corruption in which private interests significantly influence a state's decision-making processes to their own advantage.
Deputy Finance Minister Mcebisi Jonas said he had been offered a ministerial position by the Guptas shortly before the dismissal of Finance Minister Nhlanhla Nene in December 2015, but had rejected the offer as "it makes a mockery of our hard-earned democracy‚ the trust of our people and no one apart from the President of the Republic appoints ministers".[19] The Gupta family denied offering Jonas the job of Finance Minister.[20] In 2016, Paul O'Sullivan's 'Forensics for Justice' published a report, which alleged that South Africa's criminal justice system had been 'captured' by the underworld.[21]
In May 2017, Jacob Zuma denied the allegation of blocking an attempt to set up a commission of inquiry to probe state capture.[22]
Following a formal complaint submitted in March 2016 by a catholic priest, Father Stanslaus Muyebe,[23] the Guptas' alleged "state capture" was investigated by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela. President Zuma and Minister Des van Rooyen applied for a court order to prevent the publication of the report on 14 October 2016, Madonsela's last day in office.[24] Van Rooyen's application was dismissed, and the President withdrew his application, leading to the release of the report on 2 November 2016. The report recommended establishment of a judicial commission of enquiry into the issues identified,[25] including a full probe of Zuma's dealings with the Guptas, with findings to be published within 180 days. The report lead to the establishment of the Zondo Commission of Inquiry in 2018 setup to investigate allegations of state capture in South Africa.
Zuma and Van Rooyen denied any wrongdoing.[26] The Guptas' lawyer disputed the evidence in the report,[27][28] and the family welcomed the opportunity to challenge the report's findings in an official inquiry.[29][30]
On 25 November 2016, Zuma announced that the Presidency would be reviewing the contents of the state capture report.[31] He said it "was done in a funny way" with "no fairness at all," and argued he was not given enough time to respond to the public protector.[32] On 11 September 2017 the former Finance Minister, Pravin Gordhan, estimated the cost of state capture at 250 billion Rand, in a presentation at the University of Cape Town Graduate School of Business.[33] In an exclusive interview with ANN7 (belonging to the Gupta Family), South African President Jacob Zuma said 'State Capture' was a fancy word used by media houses for propaganda proliferation. He said that a real state capture would include seizure of the three arms of the constitution - Legislative, Executive and Judiciary - which has never been the case in South Africa.[34]
The 2017 book How to Steal a City details state capture within the Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality in South Africa during the Zuma government era.
The South African news publication The Daily Maverick estimated that state capture cost the county roughly R1.5 trillion (roughly US$100 billion) in the four years preceding 2019.