Stealerships

SauRoNZA said:
Even just going to a non-dealer will likely be half.
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Or buy the parts your self and take them to Superquick and they'll fit them for R300, just gotta look over the guys shoulders to ensure everything is being done correctly but it's a very basic job. That's assuming there's no electronic hand brake garbage.
 
airborne said:
Why, the parts can't cost more than R2500 for quality aftermarket parts?
Even the oem stuff can't be that much more
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Are you sure, it's two sets of pads and two discs?
This is what I found on autozone for the pads alone, so I gave the go ahead.
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kolaval said:
Are you sure, it's two sets of pads and two discs?
This is what I found on autozone for the pads alone, so I gave the go ahead.
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You have to shop around and see what's out there, certain suppliers may be very expensive depending on the volumes they sell of those particular parts, what prices did you get from Goldwagen, they are normally close to the best prices on most VAG stuff?

Worst case scenario R4k all in + R1k for a mechanic to fit - leaves a nice R4k Xmas bonus in your pocket.
 
@kolaval post the exact model and let's see what the aftermarket parts cost, I’d be interesting to see.
 
kolaval said:
Paid R9k to replace rear break pads and discs (cause they said the discs had to be done) on a VW Kombi. I must stop being lazy and replace the front pads myself.

Btw the brake warning came on a week after doing the rear pads, and was told the front pads is the cause.
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R9k sounds steep, I paid R10k excl. VAT for rear disks and pads, front disks and pads, wear sensors and labour on my Touareg a few months back at VAG Spec in Randburg. Interestingly the rear disks are more expensive than the fronts as they form part of the eBrake system, so have a unique shape with an inner braking surface for the eBrake and there is a specific process involving VAGCom to reset everything.
 
6spdmanual said:
It’s fuked, Ted.

Nowadays, we genuinely need to question everything a dealer says. I have a major service coming up and they are saying I’m looking at about R18K. I’ll honestly just get someone else to do it.
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Have a similar but opposite story to share.

After the fiasco with the Q7 we bought last year, we managed to return the car and get our money back (most of it). Found a "new" (to us) Q7 in almost mint condition, 106k km. Drove it for another 10k km till the service light came on. Got a quote from Audi (Centurion I think, but Menlyn had a similar price) - R17k for the service. WTAF. So we asked around and ended up going the RMI approved independent shop that services the fleet of bakkies for the companies my wife works at (bunch of security firms with mining contracts among others, quite a few vehicles). I think it all came in to less than R7k for the service- we took everything from the Audi quote and had them carry out the same work. They came with glowing recommendations.

Now onto the problem. We got the car back and it almost immediately started pissing oil. Clean, fresh, shiny, translucent new engine oil on the garage floor. After nearly losing my ****, because this is the exact reason we asked for the previous Q7 to be refunded- since they couldn't fix the oil leaked it had, after nearly 5 months and as many attempts. It turned out they overfilled the engine to the point that it pushed oil out from some of the seals/gaskets. I'm not 100% where on the engine though. But it was not the oil cap and not the drain plug I checked everywhere I could see for myself. After draining the oil to the correct level and washing the engine bay, no more oil leak. Did a whole family vacation from Pta down to durbs and back, and still no oil leak.

I feel like I should have gone to Audi for the service. I now have this voice in the back of my head saying that something somewhere will inevitably fail because of this. I can't imaging overfilling a car by that much that the oil leaks from the gaskets and that said gaskets don't take some sort of permanent damage.

Look at this:
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R17k is a very bitter pill to swallow, but I can't help thinking, sometimes, you get what you pay for.
 
SykomantiS said:
Have a similar but opposite story to share.

After the fiasco with the Q7 we bought last year, we managed to return the car and get our money back (most of it). Found a "new" (to us) Q7 in almost mint condition, 106k km. Drove it for another 10k km till the service light came on. Got a quote from Audi (Centurion I think, but Menlyn had a similar price) - R17k for the service. WTAF. So we asked around and ended up going the RMI approved independent shop that services the fleet of bakkies for the companies my wife works at (bunch of security firms with mining contracts among others, quite a few vehicles). I think it all came in to less than R7k for the service- we took everything from the Audi quote and had them carry out the same work. They came with glowing recommendations.

Now onto the problem. We got the car back and it almost immediately started pissing oil. Clean, fresh, shiny, translucent new engine oil on the garage floor. After nearly losing my ****, because this is the exact reason we asked for the previous Q7 to be refunded- since they couldn't fix the oil leaked it had, after nearly 5 months and as many attempts. It turned out they overfilled the engine to the point that it pushed oil out from some of the seals/gaskets. I'm not 100% where on the engine though. But it was not the oil cap and not the drain plug I checked everywhere I could see for myself. After draining the oil to the correct level and washing the engine bay, no more oil leak. Did a whole family vacation from Pta down to durbs and back, and still no oil leak.

I feel like I should have gone to Audi for the service. I now have this voice in the back of my head saying that something somewhere will inevitably fail because of this. I can't imaging overfilling a car by that much that the oil leaks from the gaskets and that said gaskets don't take some sort of permanent damage.

Look at this:
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R17k is a very bitter pill to swallow, but I can't help thinking, sometimes, you get what you pay for.
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Give VAG Spec a try next time, they have a branch in Centurion, reasonably priced and good workmanship. A lot of us Touareg/Q7/Cayenne owners use them, otherwise there is a very well known private guy I can refer but he is out in Putfontein, some guys transport their cars to him for work.

How much oil did they put in the car? Even the 3.0 V6 TDi's take a lot of oil, 6.5l if I remember correctly but I have never seen any overfilled car piss oil.
 
SykomantiS said:
Have a similar but opposite story to share.

After the fiasco with the Q7 we bought last year, we managed to return the car and get our money back (most of it). Found a "new" (to us) Q7 in almost mint condition, 106k km. Drove it for another 10k km till the service light came on. Got a quote from Audi (Centurion I think, but Menlyn had a similar price) - R17k for the service. WTAF. So we asked around and ended up going the RMI approved independent shop that services the fleet of bakkies for the companies my wife works at (bunch of security firms with mining contracts among others, quite a few vehicles). I think it all came in to less than R7k for the service- we took everything from the Audi quote and had them carry out the same work. They came with glowing recommendations.

Now onto the problem. We got the car back and it almost immediately started pissing oil. Clean, fresh, shiny, translucent new engine oil on the garage floor. After nearly losing my ****, because this is the exact reason we asked for the previous Q7 to be refunded- since they couldn't fix the oil leaked it had, after nearly 5 months and as many attempts. It turned out they overfilled the engine to the point that it pushed oil out from some of the seals/gaskets. I'm not 100% where on the engine though. But it was not the oil cap and not the drain plug I checked everywhere I could see for myself. After draining the oil to the correct level and washing the engine bay, no more oil leak. Did a whole family vacation from Pta down to durbs and back, and still no oil leak.

I feel like I should have gone to Audi for the service. I now have this voice in the back of my head saying that something somewhere will inevitably fail because of this. I can't imaging overfilling a car by that much that the oil leaks from the gaskets and that said gaskets don't take some sort of permanent damage.

Look at this:
View attachment 1872933

R17k is a very bitter pill to swallow, but I can't help thinking, sometimes, you get what you pay for.
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That is pathetic service, that would have probably been leaking past a shaft seal or similar but they must have over filled it to a ridiculous level and that is such a basic thing to get so horribly wrong. What did they say when you took it up with them?

Independent mechanics are fine but it’s best to go to a reputable specialist, like the spot @Neuk recommends is spot on. The guy in Putfontein is a legend, I'd go to him if at all possible.
The independent specialist guys will typically be far more experienced than the agents, much cheaper and when things get pricey they'll make a plan whereas Audi will want to replace the whole sub-assembly at some horrific price or gtfo.
 
Neuk_ said:
Give VAG Spec a try next time, they have a branch in Centurion, reasonably priced and good workmanship. A lot of us Touareg/Q7/Cayenne owners use them, otherwise there is a very well known private guy I can refer but he is out in Putfontein, some guys transport their cars to him for work.
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Will try and remember VAG Spec for next time, thanks.

The guy in Putfontein wouldn't by any chance be Panic Mechanic - Van Tonder Motorworx? We use him often, especially with the Q5, since it's old as hell (2009) and nowhere near any sort of warranty. For the Q7 my wife still wants to keep the warranty and keep everything RMI approved (If memory serves, he is not, even though his work is excellent- please correct me if I'm wrong).

How much oil did they put in the car? Even the 3.0 V6 TDi's take a lot of oil, 6.5l if I remember correctly but I have never seen any overfilled car piss oil.
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Check the dipstick in my post. those top two notches in the photo are the Min and Max notches. They filled the engine up to where the whole measuring part joins the rod.

airborne said:
That is pathetic service, that would have probably been leaking past a shaft seal or similar but they must have over filled it to a ridiculous level and that is such a basic thing to get so horribly wrong. What did they say when you took it up with them?
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They apologised profusely, reprimanded the guy who did the service and promised he would never work on an Audi again- as if that is gonna help me.
Independent mechanics are fine but it’s best to go to a reputable specialist, like the spot @Neuk recommends is spot on. The guy in Putfontein is a legend, I'd go to him if at all possible.
The independent specialist guys will typically be far more experienced than the agents, much cheaper and when things get pricey they'll make a plan whereas Audi will want to replace the whole sub-assembly at some horrific price or gtfo.
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Definitely. When the Q5 EGR cooler gave up the ghost, a local place here wanted R6k just to open up the engine to determine where/what the issue is. Called Panic, told him the symptoms and he said over the phone, likely the EGR, R6k for the fix- the whole fix, not just diagnosing. I don't even want to know what Audi would have said in that circumstance.
 
SykomantiS said:
Will try and remember VAG Spec for next time, thanks.

The guy in Putfontein wouldn't by any chance be Panic Mechanic - Van Tonder Motorworx? We use him often, especially with the Q5, since it's old as hell (2009) and nowhere near any sort of warranty. For the Q7 my wife still wants to keep the warranty and keep everything RMI approved (If memory serves, he is not, even though his work is excellent- please correct me if I'm wrong).



Check the dipstick in my post. those top two notches in the photo are the Min and Max notches. They filled the engine up to where the whole measuring part joins the rod.
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Yep, it is Stephan, not RMI approved as far as I know but VAG Spec is from what I recall. My Touareg is long past warranties so it isn't a major factor for me, I use VAG Spec as the owner used to maintain my VW's at Hatfield VW Bryanston when they were in warranty/maintenance plan.

That is a lot of oil but strange for it to be 'pissing' out, some places don't torque the sump plug/washer probably which leads to a leak.
 
Neuk_ said:
Yep, it is Stephan, not RMI approved as far as I know but VAG Spec is from what I recall. My Touareg is long past warranties so it isn't a major factor for me, I use VAG Spec as the owner used to maintain my VW's at Hatfield VW Bryanston when they were in warranty/maintenance plan.

That is a lot of oil but strange for it to be 'pissing' out, some places don't torque the sump plug/washer probably which leads to a leak.
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I don't really know enough to say anything except I did check the drain plug, and it was tight and clean and dry and not the source of the leak, same with the oil cap where you fill up, so it's not like they forgot that either. Also wasn't the oil filter housing. All those items were clean and dry. I just know that after they drained the oil to the correct level, the leaks stopped.
 
SykomantiS said:
I don't really know enough to say anything except I did check the drain plug, and it was tight and clean and dry and not the source of the leak, same with the oil cap where you fill up, so it's not like they forgot that either. Also wasn't the oil filter housing. All those items were clean and dry. I just know that after they drained the oil to the correct level, the leaks stopped.
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Don't those vehicles have oil coolers and oil pipes all over feeding turbos etc, there's many potential leak points?
A big issue with to much oil is semi hydrolock situations and the oil pressure going way past spec.
I'd keep a very close eye on the oil consumption for the next few months
 
airborne said:
Don't those vehicles have oil coolers and oil pipes all over feeding turbos etc, there's many potential leak points?
A big issue with to much oil is semi hydrolock situations and the oil pressure going way past spec.
I'd keep a very close eye on the oil consumption for the next few months
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Yes, they do, just like any other turbo charged ICE engine. Two common leak points are the oil/water exchanger in the V and rear main seal, both cheap to sort in terms of parts but not in labour.
 
SykomantiS said:
Definitely. When the Q5 EGR cooler gave up the ghost, a local place here wanted R6k just to open up the engine to determine where/what the issue is. Called Panic, told him the symptoms and he said over the phone, likely the EGR, R6k for the fix- the whole fix, not just diagnosing. I don't even want to know what Audi would have said in that circumstance.
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I can tell you what Ford wanted on my Fusion for a leaking EGR cooler...
 
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