STOP using hazard lights in fog

Ou grote said:
They should, and driving on dirt roads.

At the advanced driving school at Killarney, they tell you to drive with your headlights on all the time, and seen seen a thread here by someone saying its stupid.

They also mention driving with your hazard on in the fog and here is a thread about that...
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Is your car equipped with fog lights?
 
I instinctively switch hazards in fog - in fact it would be irresponsible not to. OP, to claim this need only be used to alert drivers of hazardous conditions, and this warning effect is negated when all motorists simultaneously uses it is a flawed argument. If ten vehicles are simultaneously using hazards, it is not a collective usage - car 10 has no sight of car 1. Car 10 in his 'bubble of road space' is acting as an individual to alert car 11 of the hazardous situation, Similarly car 9 does this for car 10...as so on. Albeit it you may see a christmas tree, rather focus on each christmas light that works independently of this perceived collective - without which no christmas-lit tree could exist and thus spoils the ambience of the festive season - our. Poor kids - Mr Grinch :D
 
I don't really have a problem with people using Hazards when driving in fog.

Seems when there is fog in the Kloof area, people seem to know how to handle it.

What I can't stand is people using their front and rear fog lights when there is no fog :/

Really grates me, but life goes on :D
 
xeslaro said:
I instinctively switch hazards in fog - in fact it would be irresponsible not to. OP, to claim this need only be used to alert drivers of hazardous conditions, and this warning effect is negated when all motorists simultaneously uses it is a flawed argument. If ten vehicles are simultaneously using hazards, it is not a collective usage - car 10 has no sight of car 1. Car 10 in his 'bubble of road space' is acting as an individual to alert car 11 of the hazardous situation, Similarly car 9 does this for car 10...as so on. Albeit it you may see a christmas tree, rather focus on each christmas light that works independently of this perceived collective - without which no christmas-lit tree could exist and thus spoils the ambience of the festive season - our. Poor kids - Mr Grinch :D
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Please quote a reliable source stating hazards should be used while driving in fog. It doesn't really matter what you think is correct but rather what is in fact correct.
 
I use my fog lights and flashers. The fog lights are for the front and the flashers on the rear.
 
HOW TO SAFELY DRIVE THROUGH FOG AND MIST


Foggy and Misty conditions? How to navigate safely through it.
When visibility is lowered by fog and mist the road can become an even more hazardous place. However, these special driving tips and precautions can help any motorist stay safe even when the conditions aren’t.
Fog and mist occur when a cloud comes into contact with the ground, this happens when the temperature of the air drops below dew point. Fog often occurs in cold temperatures and in the early mornings, often in low-lying areas or near a water source.
Besides reduced visibility, drivers tend to drive too fast, or with erratic speeds to try get through the fog as quickly as possible. However staying at a slow speed and maintaining a safe following distance is the best way to overcome foggy roads.
Ensuring that a few basic things are in place with your vehicle prior to driving will ensure that should you encounter hazardous conditions, your vehicle has the means to safely get through them. Firstly, a clean window is paramount to ensuring your vision doesn’t have any further obstructions on top of the foggy conditions. Secondly, make sure your fog lights work well and that you know how to defrost your windscreen.
On top of driving slowly and with a safe following distance, having your lights on will increase your visibility to other vehicles on the road. However, your “brights” reflection on the fog will actually worsen visibility as your cars lights bounce straight back towards you, rather use your low beam lights in this instance. Do not use hazard lights when unnecessary as this can be distracting from brake and indicator lights, only use them when slowing down rapidly.
When visibility is really bad, use the emergency lanes lines or edge of the road to guide you. This will aid in keeping you away from drifting into oncoming traffic. Also do not attempt to overtake in foggy conditions; this is about the most dangerous manoeuvre you can attempt in this situation.
If you feel that visibility is to bad to continue, pull over to the side of the road, out of the way of other cars. Ensure that you turn your lights off but put your hazard lights on as this will alert other motorists that you are pulled over. Always remember that safety comes before getting somewhere in good time and that “I could not see” is not an excuse for any sort of accident.

Source: http://www.autozone.co.za/index.php/driving-in-fog-and-mist
 
When is it allowed to use Hazard Lights?

Rules and Regulations

No.R.225 – 17 March 2000

198. General requirements for direction indicators

(6) (a) The driver of a motor vehicle fitted with a separate switch to operate all the direction indicators simultaneously, shall put into operation simultaneously all the direction indicators fitted to such vehicle, when the vehicle is—

(i) stationary in a hazardous position; or

(ii) in motion in an emergency situation.

(b) The driver of a motor vehicle shall not put into operation simultaneously all the direction indicators fitted to such motor vehicle in a circumstance other than those referred to in paragraph (a).

- See more at: http://roadsafety.co.za/2009-07/when-is-it-allowed-to-use-hazard-lights/#sthash.qQ0951ip.dpuf


Source: http://roadsafety.co.za/2009-07/when-is-it-allowed-to-use-hazard-lights/

Note: Fog is not an emergency situation
 
Anony-mousse said:
Please quote a reliable source stating hazards should be used while driving in fog. It doesn't really matter what you think is correct but rather what is in fact correct.
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Common sense is as reliable as you going to get I'm afraid - any reliable source you quote does not necessarily make it correct either - it situation dependent.
 
I also find this fad used by pricks very annoying. Not only that but as soon as it slightly rain or drizzle on the highways in Gauteng at night mostly you he have these brainless idiots doing the same but then drives at 40 Km/hr in the middle lanes. Just accidents waiting to happen! :mad:
 
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xeslaro said:
Common sense is as reliable as you going to get I'm afraid - any reliable source you quote does not necessarily make it correct either - it situation dependent.
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Nonsense, fact is fact. Just because you are wrong doesn't make it right. Going to call AA's legal department on Monday.
 
Anony-mousse said:
Nonsense, fact is fact. Just because you are wrong doesn't make it right. Going to call AA's legal department on Monday.
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Not need for bigotry huffs :D

I use hazards in extreme fog - I'm right, you know that, the forum knows that and the whole world knows it's the sensible thing to do.
 
xeslaro said:
I instinctively switch hazards in fog - in fact it would be irresponsible not to. OP, to claim this need only be used to alert drivers of hazardous conditions, and this warning effect is negated when all motorists simultaneously uses it is a flawed argument. If ten vehicles are simultaneously using hazards, it is not a collective usage - car 10 has no sight of car 1. Car 10 in his 'bubble of road space' is acting as an individual to alert car 11 of the hazardous situation, Similarly car 9 does this for car 10...as so on. Albeit it you may see a christmas tree, rather focus on each christmas light that works independently of this perceived collective - without which no christmas-lit tree could exist and thus spoils the ambience of the festive season - our. Poor kids - Mr Grinch :D
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What is the hazard, are the driver in car 10 or 11 to stupid to realise that there are fog? So what happens here is that car 1 are the hazard as you switch on your hazards and slow down to a crawl so effectively becoming the roadhog hazard for cars 2 to 11. If car1 carried on driving normally there would have been NO hazard in the first place.
 
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xeslaro said:
Not need for bigotry huffs :D

I use hazards in extreme fog - I'm right, you know that, the forum knows that and the whole world knows it's the sensible thing to do.
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"I reject reality and substitute my own".

Ostriches also do that, but they put their head in the ground. :)

So tell me, are you a driver of a car with or without fog lights?
 
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