Anony-mousse
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Well said, that's exactly what I mean.
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Well said, that's exactly what I mean.
Anony-mousse
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??? Did he say that? It is assumed that holders of car licenses choose appropriate speeds according to the situation. I know, many do not, but that's not the topic now.
"Driving normally" implies driving appropriately. You have to choose your speed according to visibility.
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I am referring to the idiots in JHB that use this fad when there is slight rain or a drizzle. Obviously when the fog is so dense that your are speed limited by the conditions as some posters mentioned then I would accept the fad but I am referring to the fact that many brainless use this fad out of tune!
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Anony-mousse
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You sir are confusing me, I am only talking about hazards, not speed.
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HavocXphere
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Arrive alive isn't exactly a good source. Occasionally they include some half-truths in their advice.
I researched it a bit because it piqued my interest:
It seems to boil down to the moth effect. You focus on something (oncoming car) meaning you're looking slightly right. If there aren't strong visual clues for driving straight (say road lines) then you tend to inadvertently steer slightly towards the direction of the object you're fixated on. Flashing lights do not seem to directly cause this, but could make it more likely that someone fixates on the object. Seems to affect motorbikes more than cars. Source
I just sort-of evaluate each situation as it comes. I'll definitely consider emergency lights though - I recall being in a heavy downpour once were you just couldn't see the red lights, but you could see the flashing yellow. The effect was pretty dramatic tbh. Maybe fog is different - I haven't encountered even fog to judge it.
Mouse has a point though that it takes away the ability to warn about a *real* emergency, so one needs to balance the benefits. Personally I'd prefer if emergency lights are used for real emergencies and "oh sht I can't see anything" fog/rain.
One thing where I wished more drivers did use their emergencies is on GP highways to warn of traffic jams ahead. Sometimes you come around a bend at 120kmh and then there is this wall of cars standing dead still. There it is useful to be warned by drivers currently braking hard that there is trouble ahead. Hell some of the Audis etc have this programmed into them so they flash the emergencies on their own under hard braking.
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Who drives at 120km/hr when there is dense fog? Get the drift?
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Anony-mousse
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Oh c'mon, don't be a party pooper because you're running out of arguments.
Anony-mousse
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No need to point it out with you...
Driving through fog inhibits your ability to perceive the distance of a stationery/moving object or vehicle.
You do not need any wiki or web sourced snippets to influence your 'thoughts of the moment' while driving through fog.
Making yourself visible as possible whether it using fog lights, emergency lights or all of them at the same time is the way to go and does help to reduce that loss of perception for other drivers. If other people can gauge you, you have less chance of a collision.
A placed example, when driving in countries throughout Africa, you often come across many instances of long narrow stretches of road, at night time the unofficial safety rule is to indicate the closest side of your vehicle to the other vehicle approaching. That way the other driver is able to gauge appropriately on avoiding collision.
You do not need any wiki or web sourced snippets to influence your 'thoughts of the moment' while driving through fog.
Making yourself visible as possible whether it using fog lights, emergency lights or all of them at the same time is the way to go and does help to reduce that loss of perception for other drivers. If other people can gauge you, you have less chance of a collision.
A placed example, when driving in countries throughout Africa, you often come across many instances of long narrow stretches of road, at night time the unofficial safety rule is to indicate the closest side of your vehicle to the other vehicle approaching. That way the other driver is able to gauge appropriately on avoiding collision.
Lot's of idiots from what I've seen...
Anony-mousse
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Yeah, just follow DJ's advice, regardless of wrong or right, and switch on the hazards. You can always switch it off again once there is a real emergency.
Did I ask you already whether your car is equipped with real fog lights?
And perhaps we should switch from assumptions to actual traffic laws and regulations?
My car is fitted with rear fog lights. Thanks for your interest. 
Luckily I only have to deal with fog once or twice a year. If I put my hazards on it's because I feel the situation warrants it. I'm yet to be pulled over and scolded by a traffic pig over it...
Luckily I only have to deal with fog once or twice a year. If I put my hazards on it's because I feel the situation warrants it. I'm yet to be pulled over and scolded by a traffic pig over it...
We all know the only time you use your cranium effectively is in TK to suit, I see your hazards are already flashing in your fog, be careful, accidents happen and serious injury may be the result again.
Witty as ever. Have a cookie. And try to not get crumbs on your sign...
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How Seriously has not yet been banned is something we'll probably never know for sure. It seems all he does the whole day long is go around looking for altercations. Jesus. Doesn't it get tiresome after a while?
Anony-mousse
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My car is fitted with rear fog lights. Thanks for your interest.
Luckily I only have to deal with fog once or twice a year. If I put my hazards on it's because I feel the situation warrants it. I'm yet to be pulled over and scolded by a traffic pig over it...
So why do you think the manufacturer puts this fog light on the back of your car? And as the name suggests, i.e. fog light, it can and should be used in foggy conditions as it makes you visible to other drivers, more than the hazards, do you realise that or should I elaborate again?
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My car is fitted with rear fog lights. Thanks for your interest.
Luckily I only have to deal with fog once or twice a year. If I put my hazards on it's because I feel the situation warrants it. I'm yet to be pulled over and scolded by a traffic pig over it...
That's sensible and correct nothing wrong with that at all. As from my original post I am referring to those that use the hazards at the most ridiculous times when there are light fog or even just a drizzle or rainstorm. It happens frequently in Gauteng and as the OP suggested it can be very annoying at best.
Anyway I said my piece I'm out
Peace.
Who said I don't use my fog lights in fog? I certainly didn't...