Strugling with Ubunti

[AstroTurf]

Also had similar issues, ended up being a corrupt download.
Used Free Download manager, downloaded it again and no issues.

 

[J0n0]

How many partitions does Ubuntu create??? My windows 7 installation created a 100mb partition, then I have the Windows partition, and my data partition. So I'm pretty close to the max number of partitions.

 

[AstroTurf]

How many partitions does Ubuntu create??? My windows 7 installation created a 100mb partition, then I have the Windows partition, and my data partition. So I'm pretty close to the max number of partitions.

Depends on you.

I just have 2 partitions (/ and Swap) but know many people like to put /home e.t.c. into it's own partition.

 

[J0n0]

Depends on you.

I just have 2 partitions (/ and Swap) but know many people like to put /home e.t.c. into it's own partition.

ie it needs two partitions in itself as well... hrrrmmmmm. Need to get an external data drive then. Thanks.

edit: I use a laptop.

 

[flarkit]

Depends on you.

I just have 2 partitions (/ and Swap) but know many people like to put /home e.t.c. into it's own partition.

I went for the "/ + /swap + /home" approach, but the 2 mentioned above works fine. The installer will take care of the partitions. FYI, I find it a little easier to install Ubuntu onto a separate disk if you can (even an old 160Gb will be fine). That way, it installs the Grub bootloader on a different disk, and you can simply add an entry to the boot-menu for Windows afterwards. This leaves the Windows disk completely untouched.

In J0n0's case, I'd take the Wubi approach, which safely installs Ubuntu in a file inside your existing Windows partition.

(edit: fixed the 3 partition names)

 

[francoislr]

In J0n0's case, I'd take the Wubi approach, which safely installs Ubuntu in a file inside your existing Windows partition.

Thats how my last Ubuntu was installed. Worked very well. But want to try the proper partitioning method this time around, see if it works better. Also a laptop with a 1tb drive in. Started backing up last night, and it is about 20 minutes away from being done. Unfortunately got to get on the road and go see clients, but if it is a quiet day I will spend some time on it this afternoon.

 

[J0n0]

I went for the "/ + /swap + /home" approach, but the 2 mentioned above works fine. The installer will take care of the partitions. FYI, I find it a little easier to install Ubuntu onto a separate disk if you can (even an old 160Gb will be fine). That way, it installs the Grub bootloader on a different disk, and you can simply add an entry to the boot-menu for Windows afterwards. This leaves the Windows disk completely untouched.

In J0n0's case, I'd take the Wubi approach, which safely installs Ubuntu in a file inside your existing Windows partition.

(edit: fixed the 3 partition names)

Thanks! I should have asked here a long time ago.

Does this have a performance hit on the Linux installation though? Don't want to use it that way if it's going to be sluggish.

 

[eitai2001]

Thanks for the reply guys. I know I wasn't all too helpful without the error message thing.
the first time round, I'm guessing it was a corrupt disc, because the windows side didn't complete either.

The second time round, I extracted the ISO and installed it from in Windows, and it installed but then failed on boot.

I will try install it again to my blank HDD (it'll be the only OS until I install XP, and Win 7 on it ... don't ask why, you'll laugh at me )

If it errors out again, I will take a photo and post it here

Thanks guys.

 

[francoislr]

Thanks for the reply guys. I know I wasn't all too helpful without the error message thing.
the first time round, I'm guessing it was a corrupt disc, because the windows side didn't complete either.

The second time round, I extracted the ISO and installed it from in Windows, and it installed but then failed on boot.

I will try install it again to my blank HDD (it'll be the only OS until I install XP, and Win 7 on it ... don't ask why, you'll laugh at me )

If it errors out again, I will take a photo and post it here

Thanks guys.

Why? Now we are curious! Hehehe! Just a tip, proper procedure would be to First do Windows 7, and the Ubuntu, or thats the idea I get. Will save you trouble later. Make an evening of it and see if you can get it working. Building up your OS and then having to do it all from scratch in a week/month is really annoying, so sukkel now and get it over with. If you are going to install Windows XP as well I am not sure what the procedure is, but traditionally you go from newest to oldest OS, but I would say Linux is the exception. So it would be Partition your disk>Windows 7>Windows XP>Ubuntu. Good luck!

 

[battletoad]

I'd agree with trying it as a test to see if the ISO works. But if eitai's interested in having a proper Ubuntu experience, why run it on top of Windows? That would be like hamstringing an athlete by making them sprint on thick sand

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but remember eitai's taking baby steps here! Although y'know, for mundane tasks, coding and office work, using a VM is all you really need. Now as soon as Rage is released, I will have a real reason to load into my Ubuntu installation.

I remember my first experience installing ubuntu (just now the other day). Came home with 10.04, loaded into virtualbox, installed and all that. Then, with a smile on my face, I logged into my install for the first time... I'm sure angels were singing in the background. What followed was anticlimatic; I had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what to do in ubuntu! haha

But yeah, it takes time and plenty of reading. Now I get a boner for phones which have terminal/konsole

 

[battletoad]

So it would be Partition your disk>Windows 7>Windows XP>Ubuntu. Good luck!

Installing XP after 7 messes up your bootloader for the windows side (7 uses bcd (or something) and ntldr (used by xp) cannot load into 7).

Ubuntu should be installed last, always! Be sure to tick the "Install alongside other operating systems" somewhere along the installs.

Tip: try that Virtualbox. Find the proper way to install everything first (thru VB/whatever other VM you can get) because I doubt you'd like to redo everything even if you are backed up. If I have time (and can find a fairly modern computer in the office; its difficult in a mathematics dept! we blerrie make do with whatever we can get, usually the worst) I'll do an install just for the fun of it.

 

[flarkit]

Thanks! I should have asked here a long time ago.

Does this have a performance hit on the Linux installation though? Don't want to use it that way if it's going to be sluggish.

Generally, Ubuntu installed on it's on partition with ext4 will perform better than Wubi. A Wubi installation runs as a "fully installed" OS, but uses NTFS, which can be slowed down by fragmentation. Still, it'll perform better than a VM installation, which still has the hosting OS using hardware resources.

Here's a reply from a Ubuntuforums post, that sums it up nicely:

when you use wubi, performance will be slower because the disk image that Ubuntu is installed to is part of an NTFS file system, so it's prone to fragmentation. If it becomes fragmented, it takes longer to read and write from the disk. In most cases, the slowdown is trivial, but if your Windows system is severely fragmented, performance under Ubuntu could be dramatically affected.

wubi doesn't create an Ubuntu partition, just a disk image inside Windows that Ubuntu gets installed to.

Of course, for many people the convenience of using wubi (easy, fast, no need to partition and easy to uninstall Linux later if necessary) outweighs the downsides, and in most cases there's no effectively serious difference between an Ubuntu system installed using wubi and one created with the live CD

 

[AstroTurf]

I just installed Vista (yes I know but that is the windows License I have) on the first partition of the hard drive leaving the rest of the drive empty.
Then I installed Ubuntu Ext4 / and a 5GB swap.
No issues, works fine.
Researched the /home type option and saw no real advantage for me.

Oh wait, I had 1 issue, I had a Seagate 7200.11 drive. At least when it crashed I got a 1TB instead of a 500GB.

Luckily I keep my important work on the network.

 

[flarkit]

I just installed Vista (yes I know but that is the windows License I have) on the first partition of the hard drive leaving the rest of the drive empty.
Then I installed Ubuntu Ext4 / and a 5GB swap.
No issues, works fine.

Good to hear it's working. Why'd you opt for such a large swap file? If you have at least 2Gb RAM and aren't running massively memory-intensive apps, Ubuntu won't even touch the swap space

 

[AstroTurf]

Agg I am just paranoid (Have 4GB RAM) But I do (did before my 500GB 7200.11 Seagate drive crashed) run the machine in full bling mode, compiz, extra visual effects e.t.c.
I also edit lots of 18Megapixel RAW photos, 3d models/scans (up to 4GB files) and the like.
I usually have about 4 terminal server clients, 1 VM and several other apps running at the same time.

 

[ponder]

As for the Windows 100MB partition it creates at installation you can force it not to create one. It's not needed.

 

[hawker]

As for the Windows 100MB partition it creates at installation you can force it not to create one. It's not needed.

This is good to know!

 

[eitai2001]

I also think it could be a corrupt download issue.

Another thing to check is the MD5 of the ISO you downloaded. If the one you downloaded doesn't match the one on the server then it didn't download correctly. http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable

To check if the actual disk burning went okay, you can choose the option "check disk for defects" which should appear on first menu.

Thanks for the link ... I needed a decent MD5 checker ... I lost the name of the one I had before.

 

[eitai2001]

Why? Now we are curious! Hehehe! Just a tip, proper procedure would be to First do Windows 7, and the Ubuntu, or thats the idea I get. Will save you trouble later. Make an evening of it and see if you can get it working. Building up your OS and then having to do it all from scratch in a week/month is really annoying, so sukkel now and get it over with. If you are going to install Windows XP as well I am not sure what the procedure is, but traditionally you go from newest to oldest OS, but I would say Linux is the exception. So it would be Partition your disk>Windows 7>Windows XP>Ubuntu. Good luck!

Lol ... I have a setup downstairs which is mostly dedicated for flight sims. Windows 7 to run Flight Sim X, XP to run OpenFalcon 5, and the Linux is to run PHP and Android Dev software ... Linux deals with the PHP and mysql server better than windows does, so ya

Plus I will fool around in linux, and get to know it better.

If you dig through my old posts, you will see I was looking for small LCD's ... I built myself a center console LCD to disply my planes instruments ... I have the electronics for the Multifunction displays too, but just not the time to build it. All I need now is rudder pedals

 

[eitai2001]

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but remember eitai's taking baby steps here! Although y'know, for mundane tasks, coding and office work, using a VM is all you really need. Now as soon as Rage is released, I will have a real reason to load into my Ubuntu installation.

I remember my first experience installing ubuntu (just now the other day). Came home with 10.04, loaded into virtualbox, installed and all that. Then, with a smile on my face, I logged into my install for the first time... I'm sure angels were singing in the background. What followed was anticlimatic; I had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what to do in ubuntu! haha

But yeah, it takes time and plenty of reading. Now I get a boner for phones which have terminal/konsole

Lol ... I prefer to learn to run before I walk ... It's how I bricked my motorola
What's Rage?