The club should go all the way with this. LFC usually do when they've suffered an injustice
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The club should go all the way with this. LFC usually do when they've suffered an injustice
R13...
Honorary Master
Why is JT being prosecuted and Suarez's case only getting dealt with by the football association?
Terry had a public complaint Suarez did not. Although Suarez should face charges too now since he's been found "guilty" of it by the FA.
R13...
Honorary Master
You mean a member of the public complained about JT? Not sure I understand that bit.
R13...
Honorary Master
Oh thanks. I notice though that even though Ferdinand never complained he seems to be suggesting JT did say something unsavory.
SinghDude
Chief Sports Analyst
The Uruguayan government and Liverpool striker Luis Suarez's Uruguay teammates and coaching staff have leapt to the player's defence over his eight-match suspension in England for an alleged racist remark against Manchester United's Patrice Evra.
The English Football Association suspended Suarez for eight matches and fined him 40 000 pounds ($62,800) for racially abusing Evra during a Premier League match at Anfield in October, saying he used "insulting words" in a reference to the French international's colour.
"This leaves us with a disagreeable feeling," Uruguay's National Sports Director Ernesto Irureta told the Montevideo newspaper Ultimas Noticias (www.ultimasnoticias.com.uy).
"A sanction like this is absurd, out of place and absolutely exaggerated. What's more, there's the story that the other sportsman (Evra) might have called Luis a 'sudaca'," he added, referring to an insulting Spanish term for South Americans.
"What's happening in Europe is a product of their problems and not a product of what happens among players and one of them concerns racism... We have a country with differences but a long way from those circumstances that occur in the Old Continent."
National team coach Oscar Tabarez's assistant Celso Otero said: "It's a shame he should have been sanctioned this way for something that should have remained on the pitch."
Otero added, though, that Suarez should reflect and learn from this experience as a leading figure in world football.
"This must make him be much more careful as to what he says... I don't doubt his quality as a human being...(but)... sometimes there are attempts to do justice by example with matters that are symbolic given the standing of the person punished."
APPEAL HELP
Uruguayan Football Association (AUF) president Sebastian Bauza said the AUF was in touch with the FA and Liverpool through the Uruguayan embassy in England to give Suarez whatever backing he needed in his appeal against the sanction.
Players including Uruguay captain Diego Lugano said people in Uruguay, where a large percentage of the population is black or of mixed race, were not racist and used terms such as 'negro' in an affectionate manner or as nicknames.
"I can't believe it. They're making a big mistake. It's obvious that in England there's a racism problem they're trying to eradicate, and that's good, but this sentence has no solid arguments," Lugano said.
"Luis is a victim. I can't understand how a player like Evra can do this. He's breaking all the codes of football. We all know what kind of person Luis is and the values he has," the Paris St Germain defender wrote on his personal website (www.diegolugano.org).
Lazio winger Alvaro Gonzalez, who won the Copa America with Uruguay in Argentina in July, said: "All of us who know Luis, we know that if he made this remark it wasn't (meant to be) insulting.
"We Uruguayans, and more so in football, use terms that can be wrongly interpreted by people from other places...it's not a reason to call a Uruguayan a racist," he was quoted as saying by the Montevideo newspaper El Pais.
Gonzalez said Uruguay had a high percentage of people of African descent and that "Uruguayans often call friends 'negro' affectionately."
"Maybe we end up paying for entering other, perhaps more closed cultures and which surely have discriminated against Evra at some moment for him to feel attacked in this situation."
© Reuters
The English Football Association suspended Suarez for eight matches and fined him 40 000 pounds ($62,800) for racially abusing Evra during a Premier League match at Anfield in October, saying he used "insulting words" in a reference to the French international's colour.
"This leaves us with a disagreeable feeling," Uruguay's National Sports Director Ernesto Irureta told the Montevideo newspaper Ultimas Noticias (www.ultimasnoticias.com.uy).
"A sanction like this is absurd, out of place and absolutely exaggerated. What's more, there's the story that the other sportsman (Evra) might have called Luis a 'sudaca'," he added, referring to an insulting Spanish term for South Americans.
"What's happening in Europe is a product of their problems and not a product of what happens among players and one of them concerns racism... We have a country with differences but a long way from those circumstances that occur in the Old Continent."
National team coach Oscar Tabarez's assistant Celso Otero said: "It's a shame he should have been sanctioned this way for something that should have remained on the pitch."
Otero added, though, that Suarez should reflect and learn from this experience as a leading figure in world football.
"This must make him be much more careful as to what he says... I don't doubt his quality as a human being...(but)... sometimes there are attempts to do justice by example with matters that are symbolic given the standing of the person punished."
APPEAL HELP
Uruguayan Football Association (AUF) president Sebastian Bauza said the AUF was in touch with the FA and Liverpool through the Uruguayan embassy in England to give Suarez whatever backing he needed in his appeal against the sanction.
Players including Uruguay captain Diego Lugano said people in Uruguay, where a large percentage of the population is black or of mixed race, were not racist and used terms such as 'negro' in an affectionate manner or as nicknames.
"I can't believe it. They're making a big mistake. It's obvious that in England there's a racism problem they're trying to eradicate, and that's good, but this sentence has no solid arguments," Lugano said.
"Luis is a victim. I can't understand how a player like Evra can do this. He's breaking all the codes of football. We all know what kind of person Luis is and the values he has," the Paris St Germain defender wrote on his personal website (www.diegolugano.org).
Lazio winger Alvaro Gonzalez, who won the Copa America with Uruguay in Argentina in July, said: "All of us who know Luis, we know that if he made this remark it wasn't (meant to be) insulting.
"We Uruguayans, and more so in football, use terms that can be wrongly interpreted by people from other places...it's not a reason to call a Uruguayan a racist," he was quoted as saying by the Montevideo newspaper El Pais.
Gonzalez said Uruguay had a high percentage of people of African descent and that "Uruguayans often call friends 'negro' affectionately."
"Maybe we end up paying for entering other, perhaps more closed cultures and which surely have discriminated against Evra at some moment for him to feel attacked in this situation."
© Reuters
SinghDude
Chief Sports Analyst
Evra is a typical arrogant french twat.......
crys like a girl...yet he should be more concerned with his poor and inconsistent form......
Perhaps trying to divert some attention as he is no longer the player he once was.....
*sigh*
crys like a girl...yet he should be more concerned with his poor and inconsistent form......
Perhaps trying to divert some attention as he is no longer the player he once was.....
*sigh*
Is Black c*** really hate speech? Not saying JT is wrong, not saying he's right either (Will judge at the end) but is black c*** really a racial slur? What's the difference between calling him C*** and black c***?
No
Nothing.
Unfortunately in the U.K they've gone off the rails thanks to certain groups using this PC crap for their own political advantage.
SinghDude
Chief Sports Analyst
R13...
Honorary Master
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SinghDude
Chief Sports Analyst
Why is the race card always played when a "Black" person is perceived to be a victim ?
Are "blacks" not guilty of the same stereotypical barrage of insults against other race groups ?
Are "blacks" not guilty of the same stereotypical barrage of insults against other race groups ?
So true and a valid question, SinghDude.
R13...
Honorary Master
The high profile abuse appears to almost always involve Jews or black people. The white people at least here say it is not possible to racially offend a white person.
The history of racism has always had black people at the bottom. That's why it offends them so much. Maybe.
and? So any insult word that follows a race word is automatically a racial slur? :wtf:
You white dumbass!
You black idiot!
So those are racial slurs now? :wtf:
R13...
Honorary Master
See my edit. It is what the sayer intended not the color word by itself.
SinghDude
Chief Sports Analyst
Maybe is not good enough.
FACT > Black folks are equally racist as any other folk.
The playing "victim" due to past persecution based on slavery,colonialism,poverty......or any other social injustice's are always the easiest excuse when expecting pity and apologies....
FACT > Black folks are equally racist as any other folk.
The playing "victim" due to past persecution based on slavery,colonialism,poverty......or any other social injustice's are always the easiest excuse when expecting pity and apologies....