Suarez and Evra Thread.

icyrus said:
You went through all that and yet failed to get the key point, in that incident it was never Evra who accused the groundsman of racism.
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So it's Man Utd staff, supporters and now players who have a history of playing the race card. Almost as often as the ANC :o
 
Alan said:
So it's Man Utd staff, supporters and now players who have a history of playing the race card. Almost as often as the ANC :o
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Yeah two incidents sure does make a proud history. To be fair to you though I am impressed you can even count to two. Good job.
 
icyrus said:
Yeah two incidents sure does make a proud history. To be fair to you though I am impressed you can even count to two. Good job.
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You can't count it's 3. Which is 3 times more than most clubs. :erm:
 
icyrus said:
Please do enlighten me to the third?
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well seeing you think the term "little black person" is racist there is this..


Despite Marriner’s intervention, Evra remained furious. When he caught Kuyt two minutes later, Evra responded to Marriner’s caution by allegedly claiming: “You’re only booking me because I’m black.’’
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...mpt-to-unravel-most-complicated-of-cases.html

I take it if I called you "little white person" you'd RBP me to the mods for racism lol


*assuming you're white of course
 
Third Blue From the Sun said:
Why do you want the obvious? There are many articles detailing the FA statement, including quotes of fellow team mates that were later disproven.

Chelsea's official statement:
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~1478240,00.html




Official FA statement on the charges:
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2008/evra_bethell_charged



This is the reaction to the ban on a popular United forum:
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/evra-vs-chelsea-verdict-out-and-its-not-a-good-one/



Not sure how much deeper you want me to dig? Surely Liverpool fans do not run everything in football?
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I'm just going to come out and say it. Evra did not lay any claim. You are wrong.

Read this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...v-1-Patrice-Evra-2-Chelsea-Football-Club.html

Pay attention to points number 46 and 50. Once you are done, come back here and apologise for being a tit.
 
Alan said:
well seeing you think the term "little black person" is racist there is this..
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There we go again, another person telling someone else how to feel after being insulted.

Problem is, you are a racist, so nothing anyone says registers as racist to you.
 
MickeyD said:
He did not see your post until he was made aware of it... You might also want to read back a few posts to see exactly what point Alan was making.
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That's what you think. Alan has most of MyBB on 'Ignore' and still manages to respond. You've been here for long enough, you should know this.
 
Suarez = Disgusting Human Being

He is a Barton, a Bellamy, a Cantona, a Keane and a Balotelli

Just got to wind him up a bit, can see that happening now in every single game. The only difference to them is that he cant control himself at all when he sees red. Racial abuse and biting just show a complete lack of control. If i was Liverpool id take some of those wages away and spend them on some anger management for him, and some better PR.

This is only going to happen again...

mmm..wonder who he calls "negrito" in the liverpool dressing room???
 
MVP you coming in here trolling and being racist. please talk about something else instead of being a racist. Suarez does have issues, but there is no need to call him a disgusting human being.
 
Stevie G said:
MVP you coming in here trolling and being racist. please talk about something else instead of being a racist. Suarez does have issues, but there is no need to call him a disgusting human being.
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Disgusting human being = racist?
I must say that "show of support" on Liverpool's side was really ill considered. They could have supported him without resorting to that sort of disastrous t-shirt stunt that makes them look like Zuma's supporters at his rape trial. Suarez has admitted to make the racist remark - Liverpool if they feel that's acceptable should have stayed quiet, appealed the length of the ban. If they want to issue a statement just say, the FA has dealt with it and they don't see a need to do more.
 
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R13... said:
Disgusting human being = racist?
I must say that "show of support" on Liverpool's side is really ill considered. They could have supported him without resorting to that sort of disastrous t-shirt stunt that makes them look like Zuma's supporters at this rape trial. Suarez has admitted to make the racist remark - Liverpool if they feel that's acceptable should have stayed quiet, appealed the length of the ban. If they want to issue a statement just say, the FA has dealt with it and they don't see a need to do.
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The t shirts were tacky yes, they've come under a lot fire for it.

PFA chief blasts Suarez defence

The head of the Professional Footballers Association, Gordon Taylor, has given a scathing review of Luis Suarez's "cultural differences" defence against his racism charge.

Suarez is likely to appeal the eight-match ban and £40,000 fine he received for racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra. Taylor, though, suggested it was time for Suarez to accept the Football Association's verdict, and hit out at the claim that the terms used by the striker toward Evra would be deemed acceptable in Suarez's homeland in South America.

"A lot has been made about different cultures and what is deemed to be racist abuse there," Taylor told the Telegraph. "But the point is, if it isn't wrong to make reference to somebody's skin colour [in another country] in this way, it should be.

"When it comes to banter between players, I think it is pretty clear that to make reference to somebody's nationality, or the colour of their skin, is wrong regardless of where the player has come from in the world.

"I've travelled the world a lot and this defence that it is okay to make reference to the colour of somebody's skin in South America in a jovial manner, well I've not heard that before. In the past we've been told that spitting [at someone] is common in South America and I've not seen that either.

"Maybe our standards are so high because we have such a multicultural society and such a multicultural game, but that is only right. That does not mean our standards are too politically correct or anything like that."

Taylor also insists it should be the prerogative of every club to ensure foreign players are aware of the customs in their country of work. The PFA chief says his organisation advocates such education of foreign players through various anti-racism campaigns.

"I think it is up to the clubs to ensure new players are aware of what is right and wrong and they do. This isn't something that happens normally and foreign players have been coming here in large numbers for the last two decades and that includes players from South America.

"If I was to work abroad, in the Middle East or Asia, it would be up to my employer and myself to make me aware of what is deemed acceptable behaviour in that culture and what is not. It's about respecting the country and the culture where you work. I don't see why that is any different here.

"We have high-profile campaigns in this country supported by the PFA, Kick it Out, Show Racism the Red Card and Football Unites, Racism Divides which make it quite clear to every player what sort of language is acceptable and what is abusive. These campaigns are highly visible at every club in the country.

"Every club has a player liaison officer to welcome players from abroad and look after them and it should be up to them to make it clear what is acceptable and is not," Taylor said.
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Stickfigure said:
PFA chief blasts Suarez defence
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"When it comes to banter between players, I think it is pretty clear that to make reference to somebody's nationality, or the colour of their skin, is wrong regardless of where the player has come from in the world.
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Thank you, Mr Taylor, now how about taking action against Evra for his remarks regarding Suarez's nationality?

“Don’t touch me, you South American”, allegedly in Spanish
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Stickfigure said:
The t shirts were tacky yes, they've come under a lot fire for it.

PFA chief blasts Suarez defence
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If was incredibly stupid when racism is such an issue in European football. England have always been spared the worst it though, with the problems being more rife in Eastern Europe, Spain & Italy.
And it is always taken light with only wrist slaps issued.
 
R13... said:
If was incredibly stupid when racism is such an issue in European football. England have always been spared the worst it though, with the problems being more rife in Eastern Europe, Spain & Italy.
And it is always taken light with only wrist slaps issued.
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Agreed, but then they should act consistently. If what has been said is true then Evra and Suarez should have been charged.
 
Suarez should just have called Evra a massive c*** and he would have not been in trouble. Lesson learned I hope.
 
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