Subaru

[Mike Hoxbig]

The BRZ has the same engine as the new WRX, only it is a N/A unit. With the exhaust system fitted as standard in SA, it has a very distinctive rumble - particularly when compared to the 86, which has the standard, very ordinary sounding system.

I have the BRZ exhaust fitted to my 86 and can confirm that the sound is still there. It may not be as pronounced as it is with UEL headers, but it's definitely there.

 

[Fazda]

I have the BRZ exhaust fitted to my 86 and can confirm that the sound is still there. It may not be as pronounced as it is with UEL headers, but it's definitely there.

A totally delicious sound!!

 

[Chevron]

I'd love a BRZ, but so expensive .

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I'd love a BRZ, but so expensive .

Then get an 86 and fit the BRZ exhaust. If you can live without the maintenance plan that is

 

[Fazda]

I'd love a BRZ, but so expensive .

The price difference between a High Spec 86 and a BRZ is because of the exhaust, the rear spoiler and the 5 year /105 000 Maintenance plan on the BRZ. Add those three items to a Toyota and you end up with an 86 that costs R 4750 more.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

The price difference between a High Spec 86 and a BRZ is because of the exhaust, the rear spoiler and the 5 year /105 000 Maintenance plan on the BRZ. Add those three items to a Toyota and you end up with an 86 that costs R 4750 more.

Rear spoiler is standard on the high spec after the last update...

 

[Fazda]

Rear spoiler is standard on the high spec after the last update...

Thanks - I was wondering about that - is it the same as ours?

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Thanks - I was wondering about that - is it the same as ours?

Yep exactly the same, although I prefer the TRD one

 

[Brenden_E]

It's like watching the fat kids eat hot dogs in a corner. At least you have each other!

Like I said, you'll keep going with your version even if a cold fish smacks you in the face. In. The. Face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiKm3VpRGs

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

It's like watching the fat kids eat hot dogs in a corner. At least you have each other!

Says the guy who thinks that his wife's 1.4 Tiguan is faster than an 86/BRZ.

I take anything you say with a pinch of salt mate...

 

[Merlin]

The PMB/Midlands area is rife with Subarus, of which the majority are Foresters.

It's seen as 'the perfect vehicle' for the area. This is backed up by a very strong following of the local dealer, who has a long-standing good reputation.

 

[Grant]

I normally see one or two on my 12 Km commute to work. Mine is a VX which replaced a Forester. Why are there not more Subarus on the roads? Maybe it's a combination of almost no advertising which leads to ignorance (people ask me if it's Chinese!), conservatism (Toyota/VW/Kia/Hyundai) and a love of vehicles with more prestigious badges (blue & white spinning propellors, three-pointed stars). OK, so I can't afford the cars attached to either of those badges, but do they really have all that much more to offer for the price? When you look at SA's terrible roads, the engineering behind those with with the Pleiades constellation ("Subaru" in Japanese) makes quite a bit of sense.

i think it's simply cause the are so butt ugly

 

[Fazda]

Press Release from SSA

PRESS RELEASE
NEW WRX IS PREMIUM BY NATURE
• Premium grade for all new Subaru WRX models
• Two new derivatives to be released in South Africa
• Manual or Sport Lineartronic CVT transmission options
The all-new Subaru WRX, which launches in South Africa on 23 May 2014, is set to redefine one of the world's most famous nameplates, elevating the WRX badge to new levels of refinement, quality and value.
"The all-new Subaru WRX represents a new era of sports vehicle manufacture for the Subaru brand and, in South Africa where these vehicles have formed a cult following since introduction in 1992, we expect the all-new model to be received with continued enthusiasm and excitement," comments Subaru Southern Africa Marketing Manager, Ashley Lazarus.
"The new range brings with it improvements in every aspect, with heightened quality levels and higher refinement levels matching the increased driving performance and enhanced handling characteristics which the new WRX exhibits at all times. The Subaru WRX remains a powerful car with the practicality and comfort which has always enabled it to double as a daily drive and a focused performance vehicle."
The WRX legend continues
True to form, the Subaru WRX continues to headline the brand's performance vehicle portfolio. Under the all-new body, a new 2.0-litre DOHC direct injection turbocharged (DIT) Boxer® petrol engine develops 197 kW at 5 600 rpm and 350 Nm between 2 400 and 5 200 rpm, with performance figures translating into a 0-100 km/h sprint time of 6.0 seconds (manual transmission, 6.3 seconds for the Lineartronic model) and a top speed of 240 km/h.
The Boxer® engine is mounted either to a six-speed manual transmission or Sport Lineartronic CVT, either of which transfers the power and torque to Subaru's legendary Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive system which, in the case of the new WRX, also features Active Torque Vectoring (ATV) for crisper turn-in and improved cornering dynamics.
Sport Lineartronic is based on Subaru's own CVT, albeit with special sports tuning for quicker response and better driver engagement, benchmarked against some of the world's finest and quickest single- and dual-clutch transmissions. Linked to Subaru Intelligent Drive (SI-DRIVE), Sport Lineartronic offers the perfect balance of transmission performance and smoothness in all driving modes. In automatic mode and under Intelligent (I) mapping, six simulated gear ratios are served up with a focus on fuel efficiency and comfort. Switching to Sport (S) or Sport Sharp (S#) modes reprograms the transmission with eight predetermined ratios, which maximise performance from the Boxer® engine. Steering wheel-mounted shift paddles transfer Sport Lineartronic into full manual mode, allowing full driver control of transmission ratios.
New WRX Premium lives up to its name
The two new models in the new Subaru WRX range are both available in Premium guise, featuring high-grade specifications, with no options available. Exterior highlights include the trademark bonnet scoop, dual-twin exhaust pipes, an electric sunroof, a rear diffuser and boot spoiler, daytime running lights, automatic headlights with self-levelling LED elements, rain-sensing wipers, LED tail lights, privacy glass, a sports body kit and 17-inch alloy wheels shod with 235/45 R17 94W Dunlop SP Sport Maxx RT performance tyres.
On the inside, the full leather upholstery and soft-touch surfaces create a comfortable driving zone which is complemented by features which include a full six-speaker multi-media audio system incorporating USB, Bluetooth and voice control, red stitching accents, electric power steering, keyless access and push-button starting, folding rear seats, a 4.3-inch full colour multi-info display screen with readouts for audio details, economy figures, trip information and a new digital boost gauge, a rear-view camera, cruise control, SI-DRIVE, automatic climate control and red ambient lighting.
As with its fellow Subaru vehicles, the new 5-star ANCAP-rated WRX subscribes to the highest safety levels and features a host of safety systems and equipment such as ABS with EBD and BAS, VDC (Vehicle Dynamics Control), ESC (Electronic Stability Control), TCS with LSD (Traction Control System with Limited Slip Device), seven airbags, Subaru's Ring-Shaped Reinforcement body construction and ISOFIX child seat anchor points.
The all-new Subaru WRX is now available for pre-order at Subaru dealerships across South Africa, with pricing to be confirmed at a later stage.

 

[Fazda]

It's like watching the fat kids eat hot dogs in a corner. At least you have each other!

Like I said, you'll keep going with your version even if a cold fish smacks you in the face. In. The. Face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BiKm3VpRGs

Such a bitter little man.

 

[Sinbad]

Serious question here regarding the unequal length headers - maybe I'm just missing something obvious.

The claim is that the fact that one of the headers is longer than the others means that the exhaust pulse from cylinder 1 reaches the collector at the same time as the exhaust pulse from cylinder 2 which exhausts 1/13th of a second later at 800rpm.
Sound travels 23 metres in 1/13th of a second. Exhaust pulses are pressure waves, which travel at the speed of sound. Is the header length difference as much as that?

Then, I present the fact that the woofly burbly noise is also present throughout the rev range. The higher the RPM, the shorter the time difference between pulse 1 and pulse2 - yet they still arrive at the collector at the same time? Does the header shrink in length as you rev up?

What am I missing?

 

[Brenden_E]

Such a bitter little man.

Meneer, soek jy 'n skyfie of 'n slaai met daardie vissie van jou?

It's very quiet here. I'm not hearing anything about no burble without the exhausts as indicated by our video evidence. This thread could become a social study. I heard stories about stubborn old timers, but only now can I truly appreciate it.

 

[XennoX]

Serious question here regarding the unequal length headers - maybe I'm just missing something obvious.

The claim is that the fact that one of the headers is longer than the others means that the exhaust pulse from cylinder 1 reaches the collector at the same time as the exhaust pulse from cylinder 2 which exhausts 1/13th of a second later at 800rpm.
Sound travels 23 metres in 1/13th of a second. Exhaust pulses are pressure waves, which travel at the speed of sound. Is the header length difference as much as that?

Then, I present the fact that the woofly burbly noise is also present throughout the rev range. The higher the RPM, the shorter the time difference between pulse 1 and pulse2 - yet they still arrive at the collector at the same time? Does the header shrink in length as you rev up?

What am I missing?

The Doppler effect?

 

[Fazda]

Serious question here regarding the unequal length headers - maybe I'm just missing something obvious.

The claim is that the fact that one of the headers is longer than the others means that the exhaust pulse from cylinder 1 reaches the collector at the same time as the exhaust pulse from cylinder 2 which exhausts 1/13th of a second later at 800rpm.
Sound travels 23 metres in 1/13th of a second. Exhaust pulses are pressure waves, which travel at the speed of sound. Is the header length difference as much as that?

Then, I present the fact that the woofly burbly noise is also present throughout the rev range. The higher the RPM, the shorter the time difference between pulse 1 and pulse2 - yet they still arrive at the collector at the same time? Does the header shrink in length as you rev up?

What am I missing?

LOL - totally beyond me!!

 

[Sinbad]

The Doppler effect?

Nt sr if srs.

 

[Fazda]

Nt sr if srs.