Super Rugby 2017

But they beat the Hurricanes. One could argue that the NZ teams were fortunate not to play the Lions because it made their run easier. I agree that the NZ side are among the strongest in Super rugby but the game between the Stormers and the Chiefs was a pretty close game which would mean that the gap wasn't that large.

I'm happy the Lions are there and I think they deserve to be.

My point is more that when you don't play the NZ teams at all during the conference games you basically skip the toughest teams and play multiple games against crap sides. These are easy wins that allow them a much easier route to the top of the log.

This isn't on the Lions obviously, they played the roster as it was laid out, and played very well throughout the year.
 
Here is why I think that it had to be a yellow. It was a line break and close to the try line. Barrett interfered with the play. If that was deemed to be on purpose then we wouldn't be having the discussion about the yellow. People think that it shouldn't be a yellow because he didn't do it on purpose. In other words, because it was accidental. There was a pretty good chance that without the interference, there would have been a try to the Lions. You can't change the penalty based on that because players will start feigning innocence going forward. A person accidentally trips into the opposing player. Take a look at what is happening with the latest rulings on hits to the head. If you make contact with someone's head then the player is off the field (either red or yellow), regardless of whether it's accidental or on purpose.

Aside from that, if you look at the replay you can see that Barrett was looking at his legs when he pulled away so he had to have seen the ball.

Just to add. Barrett has gotten 2 yellow cards for similar things during the season. Line break, committing a professional foul. He sort of loses the benefit of the doubt when that's the case.
I completely agree with this. As they were showing the replay in studio and talking about it, I said to the wife that he's looking down at his legs

Imho he knew exactly what he was doing
 
I'm happy the Lions are there and I think they deserve to be.

My point is more that when you don't play the NZ teams at all during the conference games you basically skip the toughest teams and play multiple games against crap sides. These are easy wins that allow them a much easier route to the top of the log.

This isn't on the Lions obviously, they played the roster as it was laid out, and played very well throughout the year.

I agree. The system is a farce. Why on earth were the Brumbies there? The Blues had more points and even the Jaguars had more wins. Why are some teams playing certain teams twice but not playing other teams even once? The teams are playing 15 games so they should be able to play almost every team. NZ was by far the toughest conference which is unfair on those sides. They are playing far too many games and it devalues the tournament. It's so bad that even the NZ sides aren't selling out semi-finals and they really are rugby mad.

The old super 10 format was the best. Play every side once and the top 4 teams go into the semis. 11 teams is probably a good number. 5 home and 5 away games. Once again, though, money is dictating the tournament. You can see that with how the Cheetahs and Kings were cut despite both of them finishing higher on the log than the Bulls. I would go so far as to say kill the existing SA sides completely and make more regional/floating ones. 4 strong SA sides, 5 strong NZ sides and 3 strong Aus sides. You can add one "touring" side for good measure. This year the Jaguars and next year the Sunwolves.

Edit: Let me just add that they can't have the Rugby Championship and Super Rugby every year. The Rubgy Championship should be far fewer games and should be held every second year. There is just too many games. People aren't interested in the smaller stuff any more.
 
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I really enjoyed the match ... I yelled for 80 minutes. ---> My nerves can't handle these do -or- die games.
The Lions stayed calm, and in the second half things fell into place for them. They are a very skilled, dynamic
team with a lot of self belief and pride. I watched the game from in front of the TV, but I'm not gonna do that
again next week. I'll be in the crowd.
 
I agree. The system is a farce. Why on earth were the Brumbies there? The Blues had more points and even the Jaguars had more wins. Why are some teams playing certain teams twice but not playing other teams even once? The teams are playing 15 games so they should be able to play almost every team. NZ was by far the toughest conference which is unfair on those sides. They are playing far too many games and it devalues the tournament. It's so bad that even the NZ sides aren't selling out semi-finals and they really are rugby mad.

The old super 10 format was the best. Play every side once and the top 4 teams go into the semis. 11 teams is probably a good number. 5 home and 5 away games. Once again, though, money is dictating the tournament. You can see that with how the Cheetahs and Kings were cut despite both of them finishing higher on the log than the Bulls. I would go so far as to say kill the existing SA sides completely and make more regional/floating ones. 4 strong SA sides, 5 strong NZ sides and 3 strong Aus sides. You can add one "touring" side for good measure. This year the Jaguars and next year the Sunwolves.

Edit: Let me just add that they can't have the Rugby Championship and Super Rugby every year. The Rubgy Championship should be far fewer games and should be held every second year. There is just too many games. People aren't interested in the smaller stuff any more.

True, our currie cup has been devalued so much... the currie cup is about local derbies, the super rugby shouldn't be about that, it should be about testing your skill against international clubs.
 
@fanie. This x1000, being say this all along. The current Super Rugby format is designed around AUS and NZ. SA get the scraps.
 
@fanie. This x1000, being say this all along. The current Super Rugby format is designed around AUS and NZ. SA get the scraps.

Mm, that's not how I interpret it.

It's structured around higher revenue local derbies and ensuring all 3 countries have play off representation regardless of how poorly their respective teams perform.
 
Mm, that's not how I interpret it.

It's structured around higher revenue local derbies and ensuring all 3 countries have play off representation regardless of how poorly their respective teams perform.
Not what us rugby supporters want though..... Super Rugby should be about playing the teams from abroad 80% of the time. Local derbies is what the Currie Cup is for.
 
Other struggle is that your Superrugby players is either playing for the Boks or Japan. Hence all teams not "full" strength.
 
What happened to the Naysayers?

"They haven't played NZ teams this year..." It's Rugby boys! Now to thump the Crusaders and a win for Joburg!
 
WOOW we can actually have an SA Champ this year, my goodness how great that would be. SA rugby usually does great things when we win the Super Rugby Comp.

The lions really showed some grit to win against a team they have not beaten in a decade. Now come the Crusaders, should be a cracker of a game. The lions have to win.
 
What happened to the Naysayers?

"They haven't played NZ teams this year..." It's Rugby boys! Now to thump the Crusaders and a win for Joburg!

Hey I congratulated the Lions and everyone who picked them to win. It's on one of the previous pages. :)
 
I'm very surprised he's not a cape crusader..... he has all the makings of one.
Eish guys, easy now
Lions played well to beat the Hurricanes. Congrats and goodluck for the final.

True test will come this weekend if they can win the cup
 
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