Suzuki and Toyota sharing some love.

looks like we’ll be getting the Sizuki Fronx crossover here as well as its Toyota counterpart

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Toyota Starlet (2025) Price & Specs

Toyota South Africa Motors has upgraded its popular Starlet compact hatchback with improved safety features on 3 variants, as well as a beefed-up service plan.

Since arriving in South Africa in mid-September 2020, as something of a replacement for the Etios, the Toyota Starlet has been selling up a storm. In the first 8 months of 2025 alone, Toyota South Africa Motors (TSAM) sold 8 691 units of the Indian-built compact hatchback (averaging 1 100 per month).

Having won the 2020/21 Cars.co.za Consumer Awards Budget Car category with the 1.4 XR, TSAM then launched a facelifted version of the Starlet in 2022. Still effectively a rebadged Baleno built by Maruti Suzuki in India, the facelifted Toyota Starlet switched from the older K14B engine (which generated 68 kW and 130 Nm) to a likewise naturally aspirated but slightly larger-capacity 1.5-litre petrol unit.

How much does the facelifted Toyota Starlet cost in SA?

Starlet 1.5 Xi R268 300
Starlet 1.5 XS manual R275 900
Starlet 1.5 XS auto R297 900
Starlet 1.5 XR manual R307 600
Starlet 1.5 XR auto R327 600

The Toyota Starlet ships with a 3-year/100 000 km warranty and a 4-service/60 000 km service plan (with intervals of 15 000 km).

 
Ciro is back with a comparison between the Suzuki & Toyota models sold here in SA...

Here's why so many Toyotas are actually Suzukis - Has it worked for both brands? - cars.co.za​

On our roads and showroom floors right now are a bunch of cars which look a lot like each other. The Toyota Vitz is a Suzuki Celerio. The Toyota Rumion is a Suzuki Ertiga. The Toyota Starlet is a Suzuki Baleno. The Toyota Starlet Cross is a Suzuki Fronx and the Toyota Urban Cruiser is a Suzuki Grand Vitara.

And in our market, Toyota sells thousands of these cars which are all built by Suzuki in India and quite simply have Toyota badges on the nose. And this raises a few questions. Which cars do Toyota actually build themselves, and secondly, how on earth does this arrangement benefit Suzuki?

Well if you’ve always wanted an answer to these questions, you’ve come to the right place. And, right at the end of the video, we're going to give you some solid consumer advice, if you’re trying to choose between a Toyota or a Suzuki right now.

You see, that was sneaky of us because now you have to watch the whole video. Or you could just skip ahead. But don’t cheat like that! Anyway.

 
Ciro is back with a comparison between the Suzuki & Toyota models sold here in SA...

Here's why so many Toyotas are actually Suzukis - Has it worked for both brands? - cars.co.za​



Yay. Great to see Ciro is back. Pity such a lame topic to mark his return
. Who really cares 🤷‍♂️
 
Yay. Great to see Ciro is back. Pity such a lame topic to mark his return
. Who really cares 🤷‍♂️
I do find it interesting the exact same car sells in wildly different numbers,
I mean it is the EXACT same car, yet one has a Toyota badge glued on and the other a Suzuki, yet it sells 6 times as much,

I now understand GM and all its brands made a profit from selling the same car 10 times.
 
wait till the Chinese see this success and simply buy out Ford/GM and Toyota and start pumping out models
actually scratch that, they probably are, just not officially.

they put a long dead and Buried Car makers Badge on the front, that being MG
 
wait till the Chinese see this success and simply buy out Ford/GM and Toyota and start pumping out models
actually scratch that, they probably are, just not officially.

they put a long dead and Buried Car makers Badge on the front, that being MG

Volvo is owned by China's Geely these days.
 

Badge engineering : Yes or No? - Team-BHP

What is Badge engineering?
Quote:
Badge engineering is an automotive industry strategy where manufacturers sell the same vehicle under different brand names, with minimal cosmetic changes like logos, grilles, or trim.


Indian car scene is full of rebadged cars from only handful of cars to 11.

From

Maruti Baleno to Toyota Glanza

Maruti Grand Vitara to Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Maruti Ertiga to Toyota Rumion to Maruti XL6.

Toyota Innova to Maruti Invicto

Maruti Fronx to Toyota Taisor

and now in EV too, Maruti e Vitara & Toyota Urban Cruiser Ebella

and not to forget the discontinued cars

Renault Duster - Nissan Terrano

Nissan Micra - Renault Pulse

Maruti Vitara Brezza - Toyota Urban Cruiser

Nissan Sunny - Renault Scala

There are benefits of badge swap like cost reduction, risk diversification and the synergy but it must work and even if they are doing so, it ain't helping in significant increase in sales, except for few cars. In most cases, one car is thriving while others are struggling.

 
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