Sybaritic & TechStop

Garyvdh said:
I was lucky to get all the products they owed me. There was only a small refund outstanding, few hundred bucks, I think. But not gonna sweat it.
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i can haz few hundred bucks plox?
 
Glad i stuck with Landmark and Wootware over the years! Still need to try Rebel tech sometime though
 
I dont know if this has been mentioned, but is Sybaritic actually insolvent or is this being made up? As far as I am aware, every creditor, including customers as they are technically creditors, should receive a copy of the court order stating that Sybaritic is being liquidated. Furthermore, unless Sybaritic is registered as a company or a CC, the Sybaritic owner becomes personally liable for all outstanding debt after SARS collect their tax. Also what happened to all the assets? They at least had chairs and computers.
 
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it is a CC yeah... Corrupt Crook... what is clear though is that it was loads of customers, which means the dude is very dirty... can't believe his attempt today to portray a "noble businessman".... avoiding real questions and referring them to his liquidators as if they his lawyers...
 
Bye Graeme, was nice doing business with you. Glad you didn't try shafting me...
 
It is too quick and easy to make assumptions, especially about things you don't know for a fact. I hope to clear up as much as I possibly can here. I really would like to address all points raised, but my focus is on doing right rather than spending my days in forums.

Please read this first : http://www.techstop.co.za/about_us.php

So to try and cover the general things raised:

horrific website / logo : The current TechStop site was intended for Sybaritic, which was a 12 year old website! I cannot please everyone, not even FNB can make every website visitor happy. I am not wasting resources on things like this, and have already put considerable effort into making it clean, fresh, and fast. It doesn't pretend to be anything that it isn't. It does the job.

‘Con Man’, ‘Scam Artist’, ‘Grifter’ or even ‘Crook’ : I feel your pain more than you can imagine and I fully appreciate, understand and respect your comments. If I was in your shoes I would feel exactly the same way, but please afford me the opportunity to right my wrongs. If I was a ‘fly by night’ as some have suggested, then I would never have lasted for 12 years, and I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to use my real name for anything. I have responded openly and honestly to the questions put to me by the media, and I am making the effort and putting in the hours.

criminal, go to jail : If I was locked up in jail, then tax money would be used to finance my incarceration watching TV all day. By developing TechStop, I can at least ‘serve my sentence’ by being provided with a fair opportunity to do something constructive and positive about the situation.

Nobody who runs a successful business dreams and desires that it will end up in liquidation and that jobs are lost. I have every intention to make TechStop succeed. Give myself and TechStop the opportunity, and I will do everything that I can to make right with each and every Sybaritic customer who had a credit remaining. I can't do it tomorrow, but I will work at every day, no matter how long it takes me.

http://www.techstop.co.za/
 
GraemeSimms said:
It is too quick and easy to make assumptions, especially about things you don't know for a fact. I hope to clear up as much as I possibly can here. I really would like to address all points raised, but my focus is on doing right rather than spending my days in forums.

Please read this first : http://www.techstop.co.za/about_us.php

So to try and cover the general things raised:

horrific website / logo : The current TechStop site was intended for Sybaritic, which was a 12 year old website! I cannot please everyone, not even FNB can make every website visitor happy. I am not wasting resources on things like this, and have already put considerable effort into making it clean, fresh, and fast. It doesn't pretend to be anything that it isn't. It does the job.

‘Con Man’, ‘Scam Artist’, ‘Grifter’ or even ‘Crook’ : I feel your pain more than you can imagine and I fully appreciate, understand and respect your comments. If I was in your shoes I would feel exactly the same way, but please afford me the opportunity to right my wrongs. If I was a ‘fly by night’ as some have suggested, then I would never have lasted for 12 years, and I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to use my real name for anything. I have responded openly and honestly to the questions put to me by the media, and I am making the effort and putting in the hours.

criminal, go to jail : If I was locked up in jail, then tax money would be used to finance my incarceration watching TV all day. By developing TechStop, I can at least ‘serve my sentence’ by being provided with a fair opportunity to do something constructive and positive about the situation.

Nobody who runs a successful business dreams and desires that it will end up in liquidation and that jobs are lost. I have every intention to make TechStop succeed. Give myself and TechStop the opportunity, and I will do everything that I can to make right with each and every Sybaritic customer who had a credit remaining. I can't do it tomorrow, but I will work at every day, no matter how long it takes me.

http://www.techstop.co.za/
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Reposting here as this response of yours was spammed around the forum:

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you can answer a few questions honestly.

Were any Sybaritic assets (current and non-current), income, or intellectual property used in TechStop?

Your issues were cashflow, from what I can gather - why did you continue taking customer orders for 2 to 3 months after you realised (and showed) you were unable to deliver customer orders?

What was the truth regarding the financial meltdown at Sybaritic?

Why was your website online (sybaritic) and accepting orders yesterday still? This is not a simple oversight on your part, it is quite an intentional thing.

You claim that a silent partner is responsible for funding the "new" business, yet all evidence points to you being the only individual involved in entirety. In fact TechStop was registered prior to the liquidation of Sybaritic taking place, so this was quite a calculated move on your part. Can you explain this? Were you working for both Sybaritic and TechStop at the same time? Not even CIPC delays can account for the timing issue here, so it's a massive problem that needs answering if you expect people to hand over money to you ever again.

How are you planning to set security for the winding up of the Sybaritic CC if all you're doing is in fact attempting to process cashflow from one business to another, or did you obtain consent for dispensation of the security from the high court?

Why did you state "it has come to our attention that Sybaritic is in liquidation" in your mail to Sybaritic customers from TechStop knowing full-well that this was obfuscation of the highest order?

Did TechStop purchase any assets (current and non-current) from Sybaritic?

What was the relationship between TechStop and Sybaritic prior to you working at Sybaritic?

Are you a member of the TechStop CC?

Who owns TechStop?

How did TechStop obtain the confidential customer data from Sybaritic?

Have all outstanding refunds to customers been amended in your financials to accurately reflect that they are creditors to Sybaritic?

Who is your liquidator?

Who is/was the Sybaritic auditor and who was the Sybaritic financial officer?

What happened to money paid by customers for their orders? If used to pay anything other than your suppliers for the goods they ordered, you do realise that you have committed fraud, right? If it was used to pay suppliers, then you should have the stock on hand. Which is it?

You claim a silent partner exists (should be investor BTW - CCs don't have partners) - such a silent partner would have had to have been involved for a few months before Sybaritic went tits-up. Why did this investor not simply resolve the financial issues at Sybaritic rather than allowing a brand to fold and for the reputation of the member(s) to be destroyed, and then go on to hire one of the members as well? This makes absolutely no sense.

Why, if you are but a lowly employee at TechStop, are you purporting to represent the business in an official capacity? Are you misrepresenting TechStop, or have TechStop authorised you to act as the sole representative of the company (i.e. CEO/MD role)? Surely the new owner of the CC would be the person here defending his/her new brand and investment instead? Do they not realise that having you as the mouth-piece of TechStop is in all likelihood a very, very poor decision? Or is the "silent partner/investor" story complete hogwash?

Perhaps you can start working your way through these answers and start building the trust back. Until then, the evidence points to a vastly different story to the one you're telling...
 
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GraemeSimms said:
criminal, go to jail : If I was locked up in jail, then tax money would be used to finance my incarceration watching TV all day. By developing TechStop, I can at least ‘serve my sentence’ by being provided with a fair opportunity to do something constructive and positive about the situation.
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Well how noble of you to undergo self-incarceration at TechStop.

Nobody who runs a successful business dreams and desires that it will end up in liquidation and that jobs are lost. I have every intention to make TechStop succeed
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Word of advice. Always have an exit strategy. You clearly ****ed up with this one, you could have sold the business and the domain while it was still in good standing.

To think that you came >||< that close to stealing my hard earned cash, well all I can say is **** YOU!
 
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Xflint said:
Need to get my name on that creditors list. How?
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If you do prove your claim as a creditor, you would be a concurrent creditor. Be warned - if the claims by secured / preferred creditors (SARS, liquidators fees) are greater than what value is left in the company, the concurrent creditors may be called to cough up even more. Prove your claim at your own risk.
 
IzZzy said:
If you do prove your claim as a creditor, you would be a concurrent creditor. Be warned - if the claims by secured / preferred creditors (SARS, liquidators fees) are greater than what value is left in the company, the concurrent creditors may be called to cough up even more. Prove your claim at your own risk.
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this...
 
TheBossMan said:
Lol and this is why I don't trust smaller shops on the internet. Rather walk into local shop to buy stuff or if I can't find what I need or want, I'll look on Takealot. Never had any bad experience with Takealot
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Why not give Rebel Tech a try? We are a smallish IT company but we have a big heart!
 
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