Symbian Belle > Android

Going to go all Apple vs Samsung on Nokia "Oi you coping my Phone!!!"

Still nice idea's like you said pity they planing to kill off Symbian
 
So you'd change from Android, to a system that looks exactly like Android, only allows you less customisation, if they weren't discontinuing it? Weak.
 
So you'd change from Android, to a system that looks exactly like Android, only allows you less customisation, if they weren't discontinuing it? Weak.

An N8 needs a charge every ~ 4 days, tell me how long your average Android phone lasts? :p
 
slow and the transitions were choppy and not animated properly. Same old sack of sheat
 
An N8 needs a charge every ~ 4 days, tell me how long your average Android phone lasts? :p

Install this new system on it, enable the auto-updating features, play a lot of Angry Birds, post all day on MyBB, then get back to me. The biggest battery drains are the display (by a MASSIVE margin), and the 3G data. The 2 things which the older Symbian versions didn't use a lot.

To answer your question, it depends on usage. My Android phone lasts a day, but I use it very heavily. As the "average" person uses it, about 2-2.5 days. Used just as a phone (ie basically just receiving & making calls), about 2-3 days. It's more than a year old.
 
So you'd change from Android, to a system that looks exactly like Android, only allows you less customisation, if they weren't discontinuing it? Weak.

So you'd change from Android, to a system that looks exactly like Android, only allows you less customisation, if they weren't discontinuing it? Weak.

Customizing up to wazoo is not all it's cracked up to be.

This is what I find missing from Android which I loved about my previous phone 5800 xpress music:
Maps (with free voice navigation), Nokia Pc Suite including Outlook Sync and back ups, Excellent Task list plus displaying task list on the home screen. And finally security, built in remote lock.

I find most apps (on all os's) are junk. I have a galaxy tab too.

For my next phone I'm seriously considering the N8.
 
Customizing up to wazoo is not all it's cracked up to be.

This is what I find missing from Android which I loved about my previous phone 5800 xpress music:
Maps (with free voice navigation), Nokia Pc Suite including Outlook Sync and back ups, Excellent Task list plus displaying task list on the home screen. And finally security, built in remote lock.

I find most apps (on all os's) are junk. I have a galaxy tab too.

For my next phone I'm seriously considering the N8.

Dude, Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot?? Android has all of those! :wtf:

In fact Google navigation is better than even my standalone Garmin Nüvi (much more up to date)

Exchange sync (email, calendar and contacts) is at least on par with Symbian, if not better. (It handles multiple accounts really well)

There are many, many widgets that can display tasks on your homescreen(s) if you want.

Google can cloud-backup a lot of your data, but you can also use Titanium Backup (even the free version) to backup contacts, apps, settings, savegames, etc. You can also take an image of your phone including OS and back that up and restore it to exactly the same state as before.

There are various options to remote wipe/lock your phone, even Google provides some security.

No offence, but it seems like you really don't know Android that well. The comment about apps just confirms it. You're really just not a smartphone-type person, it seems to me you'd be happier with a Blackberry maybe. I'm trying not to judge, but that's how it comes across to me, from what you've posted. I mean what's the bloody point of having an awesomely capable pocket-sized (and expensive) device if you only use it for basic phone functions?
 
Dude, Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot?? Android has all of those! :wtf:

In fact Google navigation is better than even my standalone Garmin Nüvi (much more up to date)

Exchange sync (email, calendar and contacts) is at least on par with Symbian, if not better. (It handles multiple accounts really well)

There are many, many widgets that can display tasks on your homescreen(s) if you want.

Google can cloud-backup a lot of your data, but you can also use Titanium Backup (even the free version) to backup contacts, apps, settings, savegames, etc. You can also take an image of your phone including OS and back that up and restore it to exactly the same state as before.

There are various options to remote wipe/lock your phone, even Google provides some security.

No offence, but it seems like you really don't know Android that well. The comment about apps just confirms it. You're really just not a smartphone-type person, it seems to me you'd be happier with a Blackberry maybe. I'm trying not to judge, but that's how it comes across to me, from what you've posted. I mean what's the bloody point of having an awesomely capable pocket-sized (and expensive) device if you only use it for basic phone functions?

Dude I know there are apps which offer that, but with Nokia they come preloaded on the phone. Why do I need to go the market for the most basic things. From a security point of view, how many average users will actually load a remote wipe app?

I'm not just thinking of myself but what about the average user? Android poses a huge security risk without a remote wipe app. Employees are increasingly storing important work info on their devices. It's really such a basic thing to have a remote wipe function. And the average user doesn't even know how to setup the screen lock code. Nokia's menu is much easier to use for the average user

Maps. Do you know how much data Google maps uses? I use wifI most of the time so I don't a big bundle. Nokia Maps uses a negligible amount.

Task list. I can't for the life of me understand why the calendar and task list is separate on android. I've tried several apps but none have done it well or even reasonably close to Nokia which has been refined over many years.

As I said, I have an Android tab (Galaxy tab). I love Android for my tab. Android tabs are brilliant.

I love certain apps, but lets be honest what point do the vast majority serve? Free apps are truly pathetic due to ads. I hate ads. Some apps are awesome and yes I know Symbian couldn't offer them because developers dont care to develop for it. Great as an ereader too. Angry birds is very cool, but i've got a console so I don't need my phone or tab for gaming.

So my personal opinion for a phone, Nokia N8 seems a really good proposition. However, as I said since Symbian is dead, as a result I have serious doubts otherwise it would be a much easier decision.

Ps. I setup my sisters blackberry. its absolute crap.
 
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oh and yes there are many widgets that can display tasks on the home screen, but do these third party apps sync (especially accurately) with outlook?
 
Carbon go ahead and pre cache the area you live and work into google maps, yes you can do it. Secondly google maps are vector maps and use a tiny amount of data.

Things are improving so quickly on android that these days that it is hard to keep up I guess but everything you have mentioned already exists on android.

Symbian is dead. We have already had it's funeral and spread its' ashes, best to follow the new leaders.

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News just in. Netherlands bans sales of Nokia Belle phones in Europe due to Android look-a-like UI.

Lol! As I posted in the N8 thread, Symbian Belle has nothing "stolen" from Android.

Pull-down notification area? On Maemo before Android.
Resizable widgets? On Maemo before Android.
Flat menu? On Maemo before Android.

And Maemo was developed with support from Nokia. Why are some Android users so quick to shout the odds?! :wtf:
 
Lol! As I posted in the N8 thread, Symbian Belle has nothing "stolen" from Android.

I was being sarcastic and referring to how ridiculous this whole "oh daddy daddy...that company stole my icons and slide to lock thingy!" *sigh*

Nokia can make Symbian look like Android as much as they want. I really could not care less...and as they say... imitation is the biggest flattery.

OH...and what is Maemo????? :-)
 
I was being sarcastic and referring to how ridiculous this whole "oh daddy daddy...that company stole my icons and slide to lock thingy!" *sigh*

Lol, agreed! :p Maemo's an operating system the Nokia N900 uses.
 
1. Dude I know there are apps which offer that, but with Nokia they come preloaded on the phone. Why do I need to go the market for the most basic things. From a security point of view, how many average users will actually load a remote wipe app?

2. I'm not just thinking of myself but what about the average user? Android poses a huge security risk without a remote wipe app. Employees are increasingly storing important work info on their devices. It's really such a basic thing to have a remote wipe function. And the average user doesn't even know how to setup the screen lock code. Nokia's menu is much easier to use for the average user

3. Maps. Do you know how much data Google maps uses? I use wifI most of the time so I don't a big bundle. Nokia Maps uses a negligible amount.

4. Task list. I can't for the life of me understand why the calendar and task list is separate on android. I've tried several apps but none have done it well or even reasonably close to Nokia which has been refined over many years.

5. As I said, I have an Android tab (Galaxy tab). I love Android for my tab. Android tabs are brilliant.

6. I love certain apps, but lets be honest what point do the vast majority serve? Free apps are truly pathetic due to ads. I hate ads. Some apps are awesome and yes I know Symbian couldn't offer them because developers dont care to develop for it. Great as an ereader too. Angry birds is very cool, but i've got a console so I don't need my phone or tab for gaming.

7. So my personal opinion for a phone, Nokia N8 seems a really good proposition. However, as I said since Symbian is dead, as a result I have serious doubts otherwise it would be a much easier decision.

Ps. I setup my sisters blackberry. its absolute crap.

1. Yes, clicking a few times is a herculean effort. Fortunately you don't have to install anything since remote wipe is a standard feature of Android.

2. If someone is retarded enough to store confidential information on any smartphone, pc or any other internet-connected device without taking security measures, they don't deserve that device. Also, see point 1. Also, Android inherits the Exchange server's security policy when you set up the account. You don't know Android.

3. Not much. I used almost 20MB today Streetviewing a hell of a lot of places. Also, you can download any maps available for Symbian or Nüvi devices and use those in a myriad of ways with the right program. You clearly don't know Android.

4. It's not. wtf are you talking about? have you ever really used an Android phone? You don't know Android.

5. Android tabs are ****. They're giant cellphones with much fewer pixels per area on the screen and the camera, just like Apple tabs. If you want a phone, use a phone. If you want a tablet PC, get a proper (older) one running Windows. You don't get the point of Android.

6. Well you can either not look at ads, or get an (also free) ad blocker. I know, googling is teh hard. I actually sort of agree with you that gaming is not a major point, but then again, it seems you just don't understand Android.

7. It seems more like you need an iphone now, rather than a Blackberry. Let someone else make your decisions for you, don't worry about installing the right thing or leaving important data on your phone. Uncle Steve will delete it if some naughty children steal it. Provided you synced with his service everytime and paid your club dues.
 
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