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Latest Game Stores spread: Samsung P7100 10.1v = R 6999 (doesn't say 16 or 32 GB).
iPad 2 3G = R 6600 (32 GB)

The 10.1v is the first fatter/heavier Honeycomb tablet, not even the later slimmer version that was updated to meet the iPad 2 challenge. This pricing strategy by Samsung fails to give Android traction in the tablet space. The 10.1v 32 GB should be less than R 5999 to draw attention. Unless someone really wants Android the R 6999 pricetag will help sell iPads.
 
BeVonk! said:
Latest Game Stores spread: Samsung P7100 10.1v = R 6999 (doesn't say 16 or 32 GB).
iPad 2 3G = R 6600 (32 GB)

The 10.1v is the first fatter/heavier Honeycomb tablet, not even the later slimmer version that was updated to meet the iPad 2 challenge. This pricing strategy by Samsung fails to give Android traction in the tablet space. The 10.1v 32 GB should be less than R 5999 to draw attention. Unless someone really wants Android the R 6999 pricetag will help sell iPads.
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The samsung has better hardware....

http://www.differencebetween.com/di...ng-galaxy-tab-10-1-p7100-and-vs-apple-ipad-2/

Better processor, more memory, more sensors, looks like a better camera, higher resolution, better wifi hotspot support, has 4G (ipad2 does not have this) and a bunch of others stuff where its better.

Its not unusual for better hardware to be more expensive.
 
ghoti said:
The samsung has better hardware....

http://www.differencebetween.com/di...ng-galaxy-tab-10-1-p7100-and-vs-apple-ipad-2/

Better processor, more memory, more sensors, looks like a better camera, higher resolution, better wifi hotspot support, has 4G (ipad2 does not have this) and a bunch of others stuff where its better.

Its not unusual for better hardware to be more expensive.
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With all that "better hardware" for only R400 more it should be an easy choice then, not so? Samsung tablets should be outselling iPads. For some reason it's not so. The question is why? Yep, I got the iSheep argument ... anything more intelligent to explain the phenomenon?
 
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Almost a year old (Oct 2010) but it does show who's the real patent aggressors. Shouldn't be much different now.
 
I love the way Amazon outmaneuvered Apple with the cloud Kindle. Classic! Amazon's coming Android tablet is the one to watch, a potential gamechanger.

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BeVonk! said:
With all that "better hardware" for only R400 more it should be an easy choice then, not so? Samsung tablets should be outselling iPads. For some reason it's not so. The question is why? Yep, I got the iSheep argument ... anything more intelligent to explain the phenomenon?
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I recon their marketing sucks compared to Apple to be honest. A good thing that ipad 2 runs a samsung processor :D
 
LOL!!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/10/apples-samsung-complaint-reveals-its-also-suing-motorola-over/

Apple's Samsung complaint reveals it's also suing Motorola over the Xoom

Yes, we've now reached the point in the ongoing Apple v. Samsung brouhaha where we're having lawsuits revealed within lawsuits. As spotted by FOSS Patents' Florian Mueller, Apple's recent complaint against Samsung that led to a preliminary injunction blocking sales of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Europe also contained a brief passage indicating that Apple is suing Motorola over the decidedly tablet-like Xoom as well. What's not clear, however, is whether Apple is also seeking an injunction against Motorola to block sales of the Xoom, but Mueller suggests that is indeed likely (Apple has also reportedly sued and received an injunction against local German tablet manufacturer JAY-tech). Of course, Apple and Motorola are no strangers to legal entanglements, but this is the first time we've seen things spread beyond phones to tablets.
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I guess Apple thinks it bought the the TC 1100 patents as its telling people they own the design.
 
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That TC1100 looks a lot like your Transformer Elimentals. I'd say HP's got a case ...
 
BeVonk! said:
That TC1100 looks a lot like your Transformer Elimentals. I'd say HP's got a case ...
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LOL, good thing Transformer doesn't have a uni-body or metal casing :)

Reading some of those comment's it seems Apple is starting to drum up some real hate among people, I wonder if all the publicity they trying to drum up against other OEM's is not going to come back and bite them on the ass. People so love to see bullies being beaten up.
 
Apple has to be very careful. The general perception is starting to develop that they are overly aggressive, and as was said, it's all about managing perceptions. There is a delicate balance.

One must however keep in mind that others started this. Motorola in particular poked Apple until it reacted. As you will see in the picture I posted yesterday Kodak and Nokia are by far the most aggressive patent warriors. Many try to make Apple look like they are worse, but they're not.

Apple's core - as I see it - is relatively small and they have to aggressively protect it (attack is the best defence). Apple's core is iPhone and iPad. The rest of their offerings are not nearly at the same level (growing, but way behind). iPod in my mind is dead. I don't see iMessage making it ... not with facebook chat "going viral". Apple cannot afford to lose any ground when it comes to iPhone and iPad and therefore the aggression. But they have to be careful not to lose their cool factor.
 
ghoti said:
Patent trolls suck :(
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The trolls most definitely suck. There must be a system to protect innovation - and the judicial system must enforce it (litigation) - but all is not well with the system in the States at present. How to change it? What system will promote and protect that will rid us of the current circus?
 
BeVonk! said:
The trolls most definitely suck. There must be a system to protect innovation - and the judicial system must enforce it (litigation) - but all is not well with the system in the States at present. How to change it? What system will promote and protect that will rid us of the current circus?
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I have no problems with the Patents that cover actual inventions like the ones Kodak and Nokia is claiming. You can not protect lens types and mirror layouts of say a camera via copyright, but you sure as hell can do this with software.

Hardware patents can stay, but software patents seriously has to go. Also if something is as generic as a square device with icons aligned in a grid you have to wonder WTH was the patent clerk smoking?
 
BeVonk! said:
The trolls most definitely suck. There must be a system to protect innovation - and the judicial system must enforce it (litigation) - but all is not well with the system in the States at present. How to change it? What system will promote and protect that will rid us of the current circus?
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The system does not protect innovation, it stifles it. Its anti-capitalistic. Capitalism thrives when there is competition, what a patent does is give someone a monopoly on a concept. Its counter productive to a society and only benifits a few greedy individuals.
 
Without software patents would Google be as powerful as they are today? Not talking Android, but their core business: crawl, store, search, algorithms and ads.
 
ghoti said:
The system does not protect innovation, it stifles it. Its anti-capitalistic. Capitalism thrives when there is competition, what a patent does is give someone a monopoly on a concept. Its counter productive to a society and only benifits a few greedy individuals.
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Actually hardware patents does promote competition. It forces companies to share ideas with the added bonus of recovering investment.

Example say now you found a way to turn Lead into Gold using some method using an oven and some chemicals, patents help you to protect your invention and instead of being the only one in the world that can do this. You can share the idea to other people for a price and more people have access to your method so that we dont all have to rely on one small company in a far off part of the world overburdened with work.

This system does not work for software. Think of software as music. How software patents work if you write a song about someone dancing in a river and you could take a patent out on your song, you not only prevent people from singing your song and music(Copyright) but you also prevent anybody to ever write any song about rivers(Patent).

Software should stay patent free like the rest of the world.
 
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Elimentals, the problem that I see is that the line between hardware and software has become an ever growing grey zone. What could in the past only be done using hardware can now be done better using software.
 
BeVonk! said:
Elimentals, the problem that I see is that the line between hardware and software has become an ever growing grey zone. What could in the past only be done using hardware can now be done better using software.
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That doesnt matter, if its hardware it should be protected by patents, if its software it should be protected by copyright only, you can not take out copyright on hardware that is why the patents work there.

And yes when I say all software patients should go, that includes all the crap Google owns.
 
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