Taking everything from whites will not solve the problem: ANC

In the UK, positive discrimination is illegal.

I fully understand that it is legal here, but it is something that I and many others here believe is making the country worse for everyone. Keeping skilled people from entering the public service is destroying this country.

I didn't say all countries. I said many...
 
They are trying to "move" wealth around instead of trying to create new wealth....

Although meaning well, regulations like AA are detrimental to growth,
 
If it can be seen a racist, then don't say it or post it. Simple

And, if you wish to silence someone choose to see what they see as racist. So simple it's retarded.
 
AA
BEE
Corruption

The first two are one and the same thing and are not targeted at white people but at black people who lost a lot of ground because of discrimination. Unemployment among white people is sitting at 6%, so in that regard I think white people are doing fine.

Corruption affects all esp the poor not sure why you would think it is a target at whites.
Typical siege mentality which is becoming prevalent.
 
This is exactly what the ANC still believes though.

eTolls not making enough money? Tax the whites.

Want universal healthcare? Tax the whites.

AA and BEE not working out like you promised? Take more jobs from the whites.

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Judging by the last 22 years the discrimination and anti white rhetoric only increased.
:erm:

I assume you're going to show us how badly this has affected whites in terms of wealth, employment and poverty rates?
 
They are trying to "move" wealth around instead of trying to create new wealth....

Although meaning well, regulations like AA are detrimental to growth,

We all want growth. I think that is beyond debate, but where growth happens in an environment which is skewed such as ours those that are already rich will get richer and the poor will remain poor. BEE is an attempt to make sure that where opportunities exist, everyone can have fair shot at accessing the opportunities.
 
We all want growth. I think that is beyond debate, but where growth happens in an environment which is skewed such as ours those that are already rich will get richer and the poor will remain poor. BEE is an attempt to make sure that where opportunities exist, everyone can have fair shot at accessing the opportunities.

BEE is a noble, but deeply flawed system.
I would have rather preferred to see a system that mandated employee equity schemes (ESOP). It would have been much more effective at transferring wealth to the previously disadvantaged, and it would have resulted in great efficiency of the companies. Something that BEE has been bad at.

Or even better yet, use the german model of capitalism
 
How about you start by giving three good examples on how ANC is chasing you away.

How about I give you one reason big enough. The ANC who are supposed to be looking after the most vulnerable in our society is seem to be hell bent on amassing their own wealth while grinding the poor into dust. While they are screwing over the poor they are also pulling the worlds biggest con job by making said poor believe that the ANC cares about them. Any one that cares enough about society would go away from heart break or work to get rid of them.

Now personally this will not make me leave, in fact I find the irony amusing.

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Some advice on AA/BEE I give to young people: Pick a career where the cost of failure is high enough that an employer has no choice other than paying premium for the best possible candidate.
 
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Some advice on AA/BEE I give to young people: Pick a career where the cost of failure is high enough that an employer has no choice other than paying premium for the best possible candidate.

Or just stay in small businesses with less than 50 people.
 
I think you guys are totally missing the point here.

As long as sinister power hungry people get to play with the population, they don't care what is required to keep the 'racism' discussion in the spot light, they don't care if they have to play both sides of the story ("It's is Apartheid [which translates to ~ whites did it] , VS We must work together, love the whites etc")

It is all merely being used as a tool to keep people divided, and distracted, it is a game of cat, and a very bloodthirsty mouse happening in this country. The Cat, knows that the mice are out to get it [ZumaMustFall / Nkandla / Weakening Rand / New Bills selling our right to medication to BigPharma / Corruption at all levels of Government/ Poverty / Weak Education / Droughts / AIDS / Crime / Food shortage etc ].

The cat knows that if it can somehow make the mice forget about all these horrible things it is doing wrong, and get the mice to fight among themselves, well then, then the cat calls the shots, and it's no longer afraid of the mice.

It is time to realize it's never an issue of race, it's a class war, the rich and power hungry vs the rest of us. The thing to take away from this is, the government ONLY has 1 card left to play in South Africa, deep seated racial tension, pouring salt onto the wounds after scraping those wounds open with a blunt rake.

We need to stand together, now more than ever, and see that even though there is rage inside all of us, were focusing it on the wrong issue, we are addressing a symptom, and not the cause of the problem. We shouldn't care who is in charge of the country, as long as we know that they are in OUR service, that WE can hold them to judgement if they are caught stealing a lunch bar, not even to phantom R 250 million and a R 4 Billion Jet and and and and...

Peace
 
And murder is murder...doesn't matter if it's a criminal, a good guy that defended himself or some court seeking the death penalty.

See how ridiculous you sound.

K@k analogy. Murder is the unlawful killing of someone which neither self-defense or the death penalty are.

Perhaps if you'd said:

And killing is murder...doesn't matter if it's a criminal, a good guy that defended himself or some court seeking the death penalty.

See how ridiculous you sound.

Actually, that doesn't work either.
 
The first two are one and the same thing and are not targeted at white people but at black people who lost a lot of ground because of discrimination. Unemployment among white people is sitting at 6%, so in that regard I think white people are doing fine.

Corruption affects all esp the poor not sure why you would think it is a target at whites.
Typical siege mentality which is becoming prevalent.

Of the white population or the general population? Also, I am pretty sure I read a different number recently.
 
Let's just say that I willingly handed over everything. What happens next after they have squandered it, back-handed it to mates or embezzled it to hitherto unknown tax havens?
 
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Some advice on AA/BEE I give to young people: Pick a career where the cost of failure is high enough that an employer has no choice other than paying premium for the best possible candidate.

Not related to the topic of the thread ... but related to the aforementioned ^ ... some advice, if you are taking said advice, please do yourself a HUGE favour and ensure that said adviser has sufficient Professional Indemnity cover and that premiums are up to date, 'cause said adviser may well need it.

Edit: not that this in anyway should be construed as advice, a better recommendation would be to ensure that your skill set is such that your skills will always be necessary, no matter where in the world you find yourself (e.g. plumber, electrician).
 
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