Telkom and Netflix in talks: source

[roguemat]

lol. If you cared about quality you would be watching Bluray or 4K discs, not downloading or streaming stuff.

True about streaming, but not about downloading. You can download untouched Bluray discs on any torrent site around.

 

[Electric]

lol. If you cared about quality you would be watching Bluray or 4K discs, not downloading or streaming stuff.

What???

You can stream Blueray, 3D, etc.
It's not like it's suddenly a bad quality BlueRay because you're streaming it.

 

[roguemat]

What???

You can stream Blueray, 3D, etc.
It's not like it's suddenly a bad quality BlueRay because you're streaming it.

I think what he means is that there isn't really a streaming service that can provide Bluray quality content. Although I have never received a full 1080p stream from Netflix, I doubt it could stand up to the quality of Bluray disc.

 

[Electric]

I have not taken stream compression into account so he is correct, yes.

 

[HapticSimian]

No, sorry, internet speed has nothing to do with how much variety of content we have.

Of course it's a contributing factor. If you're intent on having everything in 1080p you necessarily have to balance the time you spend watching with that spent downloading. A proper BR rip of a movie runs what? 10GB+ in size? For your one movie's worth of data I get a weekend's worth of streaming & not sitting about counting pixels. Of course it becomes less of a factor as your line speed increases, but the vast majority of people with moderately decent internet access has it at sub 4mb.

Further you wholly ignore the value of having much more content than you'd ever download available instantly, backed by a system offering up recommendations based on your ratings and past viewing. 'Content discovery' is the buzz phrase I think.

And no, you cleared nothing up. Lol, you didn't even address the question?

Which question would that be? Your condescending query as to whether I find cam rips acceptable?

 

[roguemat]

Of course it's a contributing factor. If you're intent on having everything in 1080p you necessarily have to balance the time you spend watching with that spent downloading. A proper BR rip of a movie runs what? 10GB+ in size? For your one movie's worth of data I get a weekend's worth of streaming & not sitting about counting pixels. Of course it becomes less of a factor as your line speed increases, but the vast majority of people with moderately decent internet access has it at sub 4mb.

Further you wholly ignore the value of having much more content than you'd ever download available instantly, backed by a system offering up recommendations based on your ratings and past viewing. 'Content discovery' is the buzz phrase I think.

But we aren't talking about downloading, we are talking about streaming (Netflix in this case). Streaming at 1080p or 240p from Netflix doesn't change the *variety* of shows they offer.
And you seem to think I am against Netflix. I use it every day. I just do prefer watching Bluray disc for movies where it's more about the whole experience than it is about having a quick laugh with a series.

 

[HapticSimian]

But we aren't talking about downloading, we are talking about streaming (Netflix in this case). Streaming at 1080p or 240p from Netflix doesn't change the *variety* of shows they offer.
And you seem to think I am against Netflix. I use it every day. I just do prefer watching Bluray disc for movies where it's more about the whole experience than it is about having a quick laugh with a series.

Read back - this segue was sparked by a remark of how you need fantastic intertubes to match downloading in terms of quality. Your interjection was thus interpreted in that light.

As for 'whole experiences' and whatnot, sure... but that's of varying importance to different people. I, for one, am not easily impressed by spectacle and if enjoyment of a movie hinges on me being able to count the bits of debris resultant from an explosion I'm likely to just give the whole thing a miss.

 

[Chevron]

You've said this before and I've also commented on it before that I honestly don't know how you figure it's slow.

It's DNS not a local cache server, you are still streaming from the same place.

I have it on all the time directly from my Router and compared to my ISP, Google DNS and OpenDNS it is identical.


But you are right about changing regions, fortunately it's a feature I don't need and certainly won't be paying for.


Besides i only mention it because people can test for 30 days entirely for free.

If you actually checked the FAQ you wouldn't look so ignorant. Here I'll link you to it:

http://tunlr.net/faq/

 

[roguemat]

If you actually checked the FAQ you wouldn't look so ignorant. Here I'll link you to it:

http://tunlr.net/faq/

To highlight the important bit:

Setting the DNS permanently to Tunlr also puts a heavy strain on Tunlr’s network infrastructure. In order to render the permanent use of our DNS resolvers less attractive, we’re artificially delaying responses to DNS queries. What this means is that your Internet surfing experience will be a lot slower than if you’d just use your Internet service provider’s DNS resolver. However, your ability to download/stream audio or video content is not affected by this delay. To sum it up: do not use our DNS resolver for day to day web surfing.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Stability can be hit and miss but Nick Mallett's analysis, Yes.

Really? Where?

 

[Dolby]

I haven't read everything - so apologies if covered ...

But when they say minimum required is 4mpbs for streaming movies, that means no one can touch the Internet while you're watching? I wonder if they're have something that priorities the movie so anyone touching, doesn't touch the bandwidth?

 

[Chevron]

I haven't read everything - so apologies if covered ...

But when they say minimum required is 4mpbs for streaming movies, that means no one can touch the Internet while you're watching? I wonder if they're have something that priorities the movie so anyone touching, doesn't touch the bandwidth?

That's not correct.

Netflix works ok on 1meg even, but 2meg is what you want for decent quality.

 

[MightyMuffinMan]

You are not getting my point. Once Netflix goes main stream (excuse the pun) there will be additional traffic from Joe public who don't necessarily do torrents or news servers. The guys that are doing torrents and news servers will continue to do so.

ANd telkom will than have the cash to upgrade the network. GUys dont worry about capacity as that will come.