Telkom finds itself in deep trouble

Telkom once dominated the fixed broadband market, but fibre network operators like Vumatel, Octotel, and Frogfoot have eroded its market share.

No, it's because they where to busy counting there Monopoly money and give customers what they wanted, aka service and fiber.

You snooze you loose
 
Deathlordnemesis said:
Telkom is slowly putting in fibre to replace its copper lines but is very expensive to do. Telkom uses Gpon splitter systems to use less fibre rather than a single individual fibre indipendantly connected straight to the server for a compatible 1gbps line which is not possible on a gpon splitter system max is approx 200mbps to a single client which is dissapointing as well splitter systems split a single fibre 1gbps line into up to 64 splitts off it. Most other companies eg : vumatel connect each home with two 1gbps compatible fibre lines to each house and also multi dweling units which is outstanding and are extremely quick with maintainence any issue is fixed in a max of 24 hours average from a single induvidual to a major fault. Inside one of Vumatel manholes is a fully populated future proof sytem from ground level to just under 1 meter of a fibre highway fully populated. Most other fibre companies do not have ariel fibre at all either..
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GPON is not an issue at all and there are clear upgrade paths for it.

Just look at frogfoot, ISP offer symmetrical 1Gbps packages. Their entire network is GPON.

Vumatel aerial is GPON btw. And what's the problem with not having aerial? What's the problem with having it? They're both different business cases and both work well depending on the case.
 
IF power generation / supply is ever -- DE-monopolised , ESKOM will VERY quickly go the way of Telkom !
THAT is the day we should ALL be praying for.

Perhaps some brave person / company can make an appeal to the Con-Court -- in the same way that Telkom's monopoly was broken !

One lives and hopes ............
 
MidnightWizard said:
IF power generation / supply is ever -- DE-monopolised , audacity temp mail originESKOM will VERY quickly go the way of Telkom !
THAT is the day we should ALL be praying for.

Perhaps some brave person / company can make an appeal to the Con-Court -- in the same way that Telkom's monopoly was broken !

One lives and hopes ............
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Telkom was never going to be a success in any event. There is not a single thing the ANC has ever started in their lifetime, not only their rule, that ever worked. Everything, every idea just simply turned to s**t.
 
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I don't know a single Telkom manager, but I am sure there are lots of them just there to keep the seat hot, cannot make any decisions, and to afraid to sign anything.
 
MidnightWizard said:
IF power generation / supply is ever -- DE-monopolised , ESKOM will VERY quickly go the way of Telkom !
THAT is the day we should ALL be praying for.

Perhaps some brave person / company can make an appeal to the Con-Court -- in the same way that Telkom's monopoly was broken !

One lives and hopes ............
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If only Eskom could go the way of Telkom...

adamto99 said:
Telkom was never going to be a success in any event. There is not a single thing the ANC has ever started in their lifetime, not only their rule, that ever worked. Everything, every idea just simply turned to s**t.
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Telkom IS a success. Good thing they weren't started by the ANC then.
 
ponder said:
They were forced to.

As an ex insider years ago I'm gonna say their biggest issue is management which is not dynamic or customer focussed. They have highly qualified technical staff that are utterly frustrated and hamstrung unfortunately.
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Of course, no one was going to say no to uBaba or his friends.
 
Deathlordnemesis said:
Telkom is slowly putting in fibre to replace its copper lines but is very expensive to do. Telkom uses Gpon splitter systems to use less fibre rather than a single individual fibre indipendantly connected straight to the server for a compatible 1gbps line which is not possible on a gpon splitter system max is approx 200mbps to a single client which is dissapointing as well splitter systems split a single fibre 1gbps line into up to 64 splitts off it. Most other companies eg : vumatel connect each home with two 1gbps compatible fibre lines to each house and also multi dweling units which is outstanding and are extremely quick with maintainence any issue is fixed in a max of 24 hours average from a single induvidual to a major fault. Inside one of Vumatel manholes is a fully populated future proof sytem from ground level to just under 1 meter of a fibre highway fully populated. Most other fibre companies do not have ariel fibre at all either..
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i think you need to go do a bit of research on GPON and try understand the technology first, before you write something as above, shows you have no real understanding of the technology imo

GPON comforatbly supports 1Gbps connections, it also does not mean that telkom splits 64 ways, unless you were actively involved in the planning of that network it can split 1:16 1:32 1:64 and that in itself makes no difference to the speed of the line

GPON vs Active Ethernet has been debated to death and there is no real downside to using either. Vumatel uses both GPON and Active ethernet
 
Yskasmetnstoof said:
A lit of that last mile has been stolen.
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binarycape said:
Agree. They are trying to force us to switch to fibre. I have been receiving up to two calls a day on my cell phone from them for over a year now, and they have started sending Sms's now too saying they are closing down ADSL and I need to move across to fibre. I am a pensioner with a limited income. I cannot afford to start on a new service all over again, and I have to it will be the cheapest I can find. So, they will lose another subscriber. If they wanted to keep their customers this should have been one area they should have worked on. Telling their fixed line clients that they were migrating them free of charge with no costs for new equipment etc. If you change your services that people have been using as a loyal customer for donkey's years and then start threatening them to get them to change at their own cost, of course you will lose them. And as said above, bad customer service, problems cancelling services and so on.
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Are you sure you're not in Australia? Because thats how aussies feels especially their seniors citezens with Australia's National Broadband Network
 
Eat my shorts said:
Telkom once dominated the fixed broadband market, but fibre network operators like Vumatel, Octotel, and Frogfoot have eroded its market share.

No, it's because they where to busy counting there Monopoly money and give customers what they wanted, aka service and fiber.

You snooze you loose
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I dont get Telkom, Like someone said all they couldve done was replace the copper with fibre they, they basically dont require much construction work, If Telkom ever claims fibre rollout is expensive then Vumatel must be a magician , checkout mitchellsfibre.co.za (A Vumatel initiative) they literally winning over low come areas in Capetown offering 20/10mbps to residence for only R399 uncapped unshaped unlimited data usage and takes 6-8 weeks to deploy fibre into a neighborhood.
 
AbuNetworkGuru said:
I dont get Telkom, Like someone said all they couldve done was replace the copper with fibre they, they basically dont require much construction work, If Telkom ever claims fibre rollout is expensive then Vumatel must be a magician , checkout mitchellsfibre.co.za (A Vumatel initiative) they literally winning over low come areas in Capetown offering 20/10mbps to residence for only R399 uncapped unshaped unlimited data usage and takes 6-8 weeks to deploy fibre into a neighborhood.
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Vumatel is using the rest of the country to subsidise it. I won't be using them until they stop this practice and charge a low flat rate.
 
In their defense, there was no way they could know that treating your customers like garbage simply because you can (since you have a monopoly in the country that's been instated by the government, to a company owned by the government) would eventually result in the loss of clients.
 
wingnut771 said:
not really, R150/pm more and you have to sign a 24 month death contract:
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vs no contract:
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Those are both Openserve fibre. In other words Telkom. If you want to use them as an ISP you don't have to take out a 24 month contract. For the same speed some other fibre providers are also close to R700. So yes, their prices are in the same ballpark as other fibre providers.
 
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