Telkom warning sparks Cell C acquisition rumours

Chevron

Serial breaker of phones
Joined
Oct 2, 2007
Messages
25,904
Like I said before, would be good for CellC, bad for Telkom.
 

MickeyD

RIP
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
139,117
I'm not 100% sure that it is about Cell C...

I have a suspicion it could be something else.
 

MickeyD

RIP
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
139,117
Telkom buying or them being bought?
Telkom buying them...

This would not be an overnight decision. Why then are Telkom so vehemently opposing the Vodacom/Neotel merger? Imagine the counter claims if Telkom were seeking to purchase Cel C !!
 

The_Unbeliever

Honorary Master
Joined
Apr 19, 2005
Messages
103,202
Telkom buying them...

This would not be an overnight decision. Why then are Telkom so vehemently opposing the Vodacom/Neotel merger? Imagine the counter claims if Telkom were seeking to purchase Cel C !!
Thought of that as well.

Hence my "interesting times" comment.
 

jannievanzyl

Telecoms expert
Joined
Jun 14, 2009
Messages
5,001
Telkom buying them...

This would not be an overnight decision. Why then are Telkom so vehemently opposing the Vodacom/Neotel merger? Imagine the counter claims if Telkom were seeking to purchase Cel C !!
Except that they were pushing their MTN deal while opposing the Neotel deal. Schizophrenic thinking at some level?
 

MickeyD

RIP
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
139,117
Except that they were pushing their MTN deal while opposing the Neotel deal. Schizophrenic thinking at some level?
Crazy times!!!

Imagine if Telkom succeed in blocking the VC/N deal and then have to defend a similar court action to justify them buying out Cell C? :wtf:
 

jannievanzyl

Telecoms expert
Joined
Jun 14, 2009
Messages
5,001
Crazy times!!!

Imagine if Telkom succeed in blocking the VC/N deal and then have to defend a similar court action to justify them buying out Cell C? :wtf:
:) Even defending the MTN deal. It was nothing but a spectrum pooling effort.
 

Dlamaqhinga

Expert Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
1,143
Slight difference though, no?

Spectrum sharing vs spectrum acquisition...
I would say spectrum sharing is not the same as spectrum selling, Telkom is not fighting the acquisition of Neotel by Vodacom per say, but the transfer of spectrum, they're saying instead the spectrum must be returned to ICASA.
 

dominic

Legal Expert: Telecoms
Joined
Sep 7, 2004
Messages
7,291
Telkom buying them...

This would not be an overnight decision. Why then are Telkom so vehemently opposing the Vodacom/Neotel merger? Imagine the counter claims if Telkom were seeking to purchase Cel C !!
Voda/neotel are in court because there was a grey area in the ICASA regulations which was a court case waiting to happen: this grey area has almost been sorted out so the same difficulty would not apply to Telkom purchasing Cell C / whoever (once this process http://www.ellipsis.co.za/amendment-of-licensing-regulations/ is completed)

+ there are also now regulations in place relating to transfer of control of spectrum (which were not there when Voda and Neotel made application to ICASA
 
Last edited:

MickeyD

RIP
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
139,117
I would say spectrum sharing is not the same as spectrum selling, Telkom is not fighting the acquisition of Neotel by Vodacom per say, but the transfer of spectrum, they're saying instead the spectrum must be returned to ICASA.
And if Telkom wants to buy out Cell C?
 

MickeyD

RIP
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
139,117
Voda/neotel are in court because there was a grey area in the ICASA regulations which was a court case waiting to happen: this grey area has almost been sorted out so the same difficulty would not apply to Telkom purchasing Cell C / whoever (once this process http://www.ellipsis.co.za/amendment-of-licensing-regulations/ is completed)

+ there are also now regulations in place relating to transfer of control of spectrum (which were not there when Voda and Neotel made application to ICASA
So Telkom's objections could have been a strategy to clear the path for them to make an acquisition where spectrum is involved?
 

dominic

Legal Expert: Telecoms
Joined
Sep 7, 2004
Messages
7,291
So Telkom's objections could have been a strategy to clear the path for them to make an acquisition where spectrum is involved?
more like a strategy to stop Vodacom from kicking their asses even harder
an acquisition for Telkom in the mobile space was always on the cards
 
Top