Wind and solar is what comes to mind but I couldn't really care to much
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Telkom warns over Eskom load shedding
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MickeyD
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Theft.
A major problem regardless ...
We will have to agree to disagree on this when it comes to a companies bottom line at this space in time.
But a real problem, you should see how they steal remote solar panel installations, including batteries etc. Eskom/municipal power is still way cheaper than providing your own in SA.
not at all my pub maths might be completely wrong but I suspect I haven't explained myself properly so let me quickly make an attempt; too lazy to look up actual numbers so lets work with a couple of hypothetical ones and lets work with Telkom, Vodacom and MTN hypothetically
Lets say the price of electricity at plant for Eskom (set by NERSA really) is 50c per widget and the price your average plod municipality sells electricity is 100c
A windfarm or solar plant (large not small one) say has a viability point (so ROI + maintenance etc ...) of 80c. The guys wanting feed in tariff need the tariff to be 82c per widget for it to make sense which isn't be given and all of the licensing and power mix nonsense kicks in.
Instead Telkom needs 1 million widgets of electricity per hour and are paying the municipality price - rather than the big industry price - in the current system. Instead what I am proposing is that they have to put 1 million widgets electricity per hour into the total mix without reward and can take electricity where ever they may need it. So Vodacom can build a windfarm and Telkom ensures the capitalizing of a solar plant while MTN uses pig poo turbines. In some instances an individual NO site will be electricity self sufficient if doing so would be viable for the NO.
The municipalities are being shafted of the 50c per widget (because the bill is direct to from the NOs but the total grid value.
There is a horrible transactional cost calculation animal at play but it is computerized and calculated and works on the power usage rating of the equipment. Eventually when the feed in tariff nonsense is sorted out the situation for own use at lower than muni rate and selling on will dictate whether any given business goes the route or not.
that is assuming that each site needs to be self standing
Muni electricity is a lot cheaper that small scale generation - particularly if you are using gennys, but that isn't what I am arguing
They would have to be, if you looked at telkom alone there would be thousands of small sites alone. And I'm talking about a 1mx2m footprint here.
I still think you are operating in an utopian type environment. Your wind farm is gonna require land ($$$), environmental impact studies, local community approval, actual turbines, km's of trenching, km's of desirable (to skebengas) thick copper cable you will have to replace monthly, maintenance/monitoring, not being able to sell the surplus back into the grid and a plethora of of other things all while it has nothing to do with your core business. Now multiply this across municipalities and it becomes a ballache of note requiring more human resources just to manage it.
Off to bed now.
The whole point is that the NOs would continue to pull electricity off the grid, what is proposed is that instead of buying from the municipalities the NOs settle by offset directly with Eskom (who in turn deduct as against the municipality) on the basis of an offset approach - so the NO needs to generate the same amount of energy in total as what its equipment ratings state it will use. Unlike other industries which wish to feed in electricity this won't require negotiation of feed in tariffs or
It is administratively clunky in terms of Eskom offsetting to the municipality and causes the NOs to generate electricity on the assumption of network equipment being at full usage - so equipment rated rather than usage - and is ultimately to the prejudice of the municipalities who are now not milking the NOs but still having to preserve transmission services: ultimately it will be in the interest of the municipalities to deal with the NOs transmission on a separate path as part of a general structuring of transmission networks - City Power working with MTN for example, but it isn't necessary because there is a fixed offset calculation mechanism (capacity of NO equipment connected through municipality)
This will require a statutory amendment and will not be favoured by many municipalities so it is "utopian" in that sense. My thinking though is framed on the basis of offsetting one pile of regulatory poo against another and forcing the municipalities against seeing NOs as cash cows.
Well we were blacked out according to schedule on Friday night.
Nothing scheduled for Sat afternoon/evening in my area.
Whole of Sat and Sun through to Monday no ADSL/telephone.
If it's not one government run institution it's the other.
Nothing scheduled for Sat afternoon/evening in my area.
Whole of Sat and Sun through to Monday no ADSL/telephone.
If it's not one government run institution it's the other.
bekdik
Honorary Master
Hey come on. They have a whole bunch of spare broken power stations.
Looks like things are about to change on this front out of sheer desperation.
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/115645-anc-sets-up-electricity-crisis-war-room.html
Whether it stays this way after eskom sorts it schite out is a different story.