Terror attack outside U.K. Parliament

C4Cat said:
If you hate them you're helping them achieve their objective aren't you? But the objective is bigger that that. They don't want the west to just hate them, they want the west to hate all Muslims everywhere. All part of the great war they want and you're basically being their patsy and responding exactly according to their plan. Maybe the left are trying to prevent them from achieving their objective - if peace loving Muslims are embraced by the west then the extremists haven't got a chance at success. If they are instead hated and alienated they have no where to go but to Muslim countries run by extremists, more soldiers for their great jihad. Love is the only solution here, not hate.
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FoXtroT said:
'Embracing them' won't necessarily stop the attacks either. Their stated goal is to have the world converted to islam and run under sharia. You can't stop that by just being a peace loving hippy.
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Islam cannot co-exist with other religions that's what it comes down too.
 
Peace-loving Muslims ARE embraced by the UK. When I lived in the UK, they could do no wrong. But I think the worm has turned. The atmosphere is decidedly different 10 years later. People are tired of being tolerant and then to be told it isn't good enough. Hence Brexit.
 
Big problem with these extremists is that it's unpredictable.

This terrorist was born in England. His family originate from Jamaica. Radicalisation was by militant leaders. They're trained in manipulation and thought control techniques.

Personal background

Abu Izzadeen is a British citizen born on 18 April 1975 in Hackney, east London, to a family originally from Jamaica. Brooks converted to Islam the day before he turned 18, on 17 April 1993, changing his name to Omar, but preferring to be called Abu Izadeen. He is fluent in Arabic.[4][5]

He trained and worked for a while as an electrician. He and his Arab-born wife Mokhtaria were married in 1998. They have three children.[5][6][7]
Political activities

Abu Izzadeen met Omar Bakri Muhammed and Abu Hamza al-Masri at Finsbury Park Mosque in the 1990s; this is when he is thought to have been radicalized.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen
 
Arthur said:
Really, is it the Abu Izzadeen?
Born Trevor Brooks, 18 April 1975, a British spokesman for Al Ghurabaa, a Muslim organisation banned under the Terrorism Act 2006 for the glorification of terrorism, that operated in the United Kingdom.
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The hate preacher, yes.

The biggest threat to our national security isn't some miscreant on a dingy trying to cross the channel. It's the hoards that have been brainwashed right here for the past couple of decades (or longer) by ****s like him. And a government that fails to do anything about it. There were apparently armed police three bridges down before the attack even happened - MI5/6 always know what's up, guaranteed, but for some reason always fail to act.

Brexit will never fix that - it was never meant to. It could slow the influence from outside sources, sure, but the government needs to route out this filth where it currently finds itself first: on our own ****ing doorsteps.

And we can point our fingers all we want at Muslims, because surprise-surprise: the attacker was once again Muslim - but treating them and their ideology with contempt won't fix the situation. If anything, it will just make it worse for everyone. Now would be a good time for ALL Muslims who aren't terrorists to step up to the ****ing plate and report the hate preachers, the cells, etc - the people planning and carrying out these types of attacks are your NEIGHBOURS, not mine. If you're not against them, then you're surely for them, and then the hatred towards you and your ideology is more than justified.

No #PrayForLondon crap, or changing Facebook profile pics today - just the most British thing I could find:

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C4Cat said:
If you hate them you're helping them achieve their objective aren't you? But the objective is bigger that that. They don't want the west to just hate them, they want the west to hate all Muslims everywhere. All part of the great war they want and you're basically being their patsy and responding exactly according to their plan. Maybe the left are trying to prevent them from achieving their objective - if peace loving Muslims are embraced by the west then the extremists haven't got a chance at success. If they are instead hated and alienated they have no where to go but to Muslim countries run by extremists, more soldiers for their great jihad. Love is the only solution here, not hate.
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How haven't peace loving, moderate muslims been embraced by the UK? Yeah, and that sure has been working out great. They're using the left's weak, PC policies to infiltrate and destroy their enemies from within because it's the only way they can.
 
f2wohf said:
And Brexit won't change a thing about this, these guys are british.
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Long term it might help stop the new generations from being radicalised, if the influx of immigrants are controlled.
 
SweetFennyAdams said:
He was released from jail in 2009.
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And put back in jail in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen#November_2015

Over the past few years, Izzadeen has been in and out of UK's legal system for his radical views. In 2015, he was sent to jail for failing to notify police of his address change, while in early 2016—he landed himself in hot water again for leaving the country without telling British authorities, according to the BBC. And here is the problem: he was given a two-year prison sentence for that infraction. He's still in jail.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...-identified-as-abu-izzadeennot-asian-n2302590
 
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