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Check how carefully worded this statement about sexual is,
So for the physical he goes to the dudes and goes to the ladies for some emo attachment and whatever "other activities" means.
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The Anni Dewani Murder Case
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Check how carefully worded this statement about sexual is,
So for the physical he goes to the dudes and goes to the ladies for some emo attachment and whatever "other activities" means.
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We truly live in an amaZing country. A foreigner can fly in an arrange a 'hit' by talking to the nearest taxi driver.
The next time you get annoyed. Don't call a lawyer Call-A-cab, or should that be call-a-hit.
The next time you get annoyed. Don't call a lawyer Call-A-cab, or should that be call-a-hit.
LazyLion
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I WAS ASKED IF I KNEW OF A HITMAN: QWABE
One of the men convicted of killing honeymooner Anni Dewani told the Western Cape High Court on Wednesday how he was asked to find her hitman.
Mziwamadoda Qwabe testified that he received a call from Monde Mbolombo that Friday, November 12, 2010, saying someone wanted a job done.
"He basically said someone wanted someone to be killed," he said in answer to a question from prosecutor Adrian Mopp.
Qwabe was testifying for the State in the trial of Shrien Dewani, who is accused of the murder of his wife Anni during their honeymoon in Cape Town in November 2010.
Dewani maintains they were hijacked while being driven through Gugulethu in a shuttle bus on November 13, 2010. He was apparently forced out and the hijackers drove off with Anni. Her body was found on the back seat of the shuttle the next day.
The State alleges Dewani conspired with others to stage the hijacking.
Qwabe said he would help and that Mbolombo could forward his cellphone number to the man who wanted the job done, later identified as Zola Tongo. Tongo phoned him later in the day and confirmed a hitman job was available.
Qwabe was sitting at home with his friend Xolile Mngeni when he got the call and asked him if he was interested. Mngeni, whose nickname is Watti, said he would do the job for R15,000.
Qwabe was sentenced to 25 years in jail for his role in the crime, in terms of a plea and sentencing agreement reached in August 2012.
Mngeni is serving life for pulling the trigger of the gun, while his accomplice Tongo, who drove the shuttle bus, is serving 18 years in jail.
Qwabe said he and Tongo agreed to meet near a shopping centre in Khayelitsha the following day.
Tongo called him numerous times on Saturday morning, November 13, 2010, and explained he would be in a silver VW Sharan. They met and Qwabe got into the car.
"He said there was a husband who wanted his wife to be killed... It had to look like a hijacking."
At this point in Qwabe's testimony, Dewani pursed his lips and shook his head slowly before putting his head down to write notes.
Qwabe said he phoned Mngeni and asked where he was.
Tongo drove them to where Mngeni was and they all sat and spoke in the vehicle.
"We agreed on where the hijacking was going to happen, the corner of NY112 and NY118."
As they spoke, an elderly woman walked past the car and Tongo got out to speak to her.
The entire conversation in the car took between 20 and 30 minutes. It was agreed that nothing would happen to the husband during the hijacking and that the R15,000 would be left in the cubbyhole.
Mopp asked if they had discussed when the hijacking would take place.
Qwabe said Tongo had promised to call them when he was at the couple's hotel, which would be around 7pm or 7.30pm that evening.
There was no discussion as to how or where the wife would be killed.
Mopp asked if a murder weapon was chosen.
"I knew I had a gun and Watti also knew I had a gun. It was illegal," he said.
Source : Sapa /je/th/ar/jk
Date : 08 Oct 2014 13:04
One of the men convicted of killing honeymooner Anni Dewani told the Western Cape High Court on Wednesday how he was asked to find her hitman.
Mziwamadoda Qwabe testified that he received a call from Monde Mbolombo that Friday, November 12, 2010, saying someone wanted a job done.
"He basically said someone wanted someone to be killed," he said in answer to a question from prosecutor Adrian Mopp.
Qwabe was testifying for the State in the trial of Shrien Dewani, who is accused of the murder of his wife Anni during their honeymoon in Cape Town in November 2010.
Dewani maintains they were hijacked while being driven through Gugulethu in a shuttle bus on November 13, 2010. He was apparently forced out and the hijackers drove off with Anni. Her body was found on the back seat of the shuttle the next day.
The State alleges Dewani conspired with others to stage the hijacking.
Qwabe said he would help and that Mbolombo could forward his cellphone number to the man who wanted the job done, later identified as Zola Tongo. Tongo phoned him later in the day and confirmed a hitman job was available.
Qwabe was sitting at home with his friend Xolile Mngeni when he got the call and asked him if he was interested. Mngeni, whose nickname is Watti, said he would do the job for R15,000.
Qwabe was sentenced to 25 years in jail for his role in the crime, in terms of a plea and sentencing agreement reached in August 2012.
Mngeni is serving life for pulling the trigger of the gun, while his accomplice Tongo, who drove the shuttle bus, is serving 18 years in jail.
Qwabe said he and Tongo agreed to meet near a shopping centre in Khayelitsha the following day.
Tongo called him numerous times on Saturday morning, November 13, 2010, and explained he would be in a silver VW Sharan. They met and Qwabe got into the car.
"He said there was a husband who wanted his wife to be killed... It had to look like a hijacking."
At this point in Qwabe's testimony, Dewani pursed his lips and shook his head slowly before putting his head down to write notes.
Qwabe said he phoned Mngeni and asked where he was.
Tongo drove them to where Mngeni was and they all sat and spoke in the vehicle.
"We agreed on where the hijacking was going to happen, the corner of NY112 and NY118."
As they spoke, an elderly woman walked past the car and Tongo got out to speak to her.
The entire conversation in the car took between 20 and 30 minutes. It was agreed that nothing would happen to the husband during the hijacking and that the R15,000 would be left in the cubbyhole.
Mopp asked if they had discussed when the hijacking would take place.
Qwabe said Tongo had promised to call them when he was at the couple's hotel, which would be around 7pm or 7.30pm that evening.
There was no discussion as to how or where the wife would be killed.
Mopp asked if a murder weapon was chosen.
"I knew I had a gun and Watti also knew I had a gun. It was illegal," he said.
Source : Sapa /je/th/ar/jk
Date : 08 Oct 2014 13:04
LazyLion
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QWABE DESCRIBES STAGED HIJACKING
One of honeymooner Anni Dewani's convicted killers on Wednesday testified about the allegedly sham hijacking that resulted in her death in 2010.
Mziwamadoda Qwabe was called as the State's second witness in her husband Shrien Dewani's trial in the Western Cape High Court.
The State alleges Dewani conspired with Qwabe and other men to have her killed for R15,000. Dewani has pleaded not guilty to her murder and other charges, maintaining they were the victims of a hijacking.
Questioned by prosecutor Adrian Mopp, Qwabe testified that his acquaintance Xolile Mngeni offered to be the hitman for R15,000. Zola Tongo had phoned Qwabe and said "there was a husband who wanted his wife to be killed".
Tongo called him after 8pm on November 13, 2010, and said he was leaving the hotel where the couple were staying. Tongo drove the shuttle bus the Dewanis were in.
Qwabe phoned Mngeni and they decided to meet in Gugulethu, Cape Town.
On their way to Gugulethu, on the N2 highway, Tongo phoned them around 9pm and said he had already left Gugulethu and was on his way to Somerset West. They decided to go back to Khayelitsha and parted ways.
Tongo phoned him later that evening and said he was at a restaurant in Somerset West.
"He said the husband wanted his wife to be killed that same evening," Qwabe said.
Qwabe and Mngeni made their way to a tavern, Sop's Place, and arranged with a man named Mawanda to give them a lift back to Gugulethu.
When they got to Gugulethu, they made their way on foot to the intersection where they had agreed the hijacking would happen, about 120m away.
"At that time I had yellow kitchen gloves on, for [hiding my] fingerprints."
He got a text message from Tongo saying he was on his way.
While he was relieving himself against a fence, Mngeni told him a car was approaching.
When the car arrived, Mngeni pointed a gun at the driver.
Qwabe got into the driver's seat and Mngeni into the front passenger seat. Tongo moved to the back seat where there was a "guy and lady".
He drove the vehicle and Mngeni "calmed" the passengers by asking them to keep quiet and not try anything.
Qwabe said he could not see the reactions of the passengers as he was focused on driving. He stopped at an intersection facing the police barracks and ordered Tongo out of the car.
"As he was getting out, he said the money was in the pouch behind the front passenger door."
He started the vehicle again and took a ramp onto the N2 towards Khayelitsha. He took the Baden Powell Drive turn-off and drove through Kuyasa and eNkanini.
He stopped the vehicle between Harare and Kuyasa and asked the husband to get out of the car, go to one of the nearby houses, and report the hijacking.
Mopp asked what the husband's reaction was.
"I don't recall," he said.
Qwabe drove off with Mngeni and the wife towards Mew Way in Khayelitsha.
"While I am there between Ilitha Park and Ndlovini, I hear a gunshot, and after the gunshot I got a shock and turned into the first turn-off into Ilitha Park."
He asked Mngeni what he had done. He replied that he "shot the lady".
Qwabe stopped the car and saw Mngeni look for the bullet casing. Qwabe helped him and found it on the floor at the back of the car.
As they walked away, Qwabe said he threw the bullet casing into a storm-water drain.
Mngeni showed him a silver digital camera and three phones -- two BlackBerry phones and a brown Nokia. He recognised the brown phone as Tongo's.
Mngeni took out the money he had retrieved from the car pouch.
"We counted the money while we were walking and it only comes to R10,000. He shows me another stack of some R4000 that he said he got from the husband," Qwabe said.
Qwabe parted ways with Mngeni and went to a party. Mngeni left with the firearm.
Source : Sapa /je/jk/lp/ar/th
Date : 08 Oct 2014 13:14
One of honeymooner Anni Dewani's convicted killers on Wednesday testified about the allegedly sham hijacking that resulted in her death in 2010.
Mziwamadoda Qwabe was called as the State's second witness in her husband Shrien Dewani's trial in the Western Cape High Court.
The State alleges Dewani conspired with Qwabe and other men to have her killed for R15,000. Dewani has pleaded not guilty to her murder and other charges, maintaining they were the victims of a hijacking.
Questioned by prosecutor Adrian Mopp, Qwabe testified that his acquaintance Xolile Mngeni offered to be the hitman for R15,000. Zola Tongo had phoned Qwabe and said "there was a husband who wanted his wife to be killed".
Tongo called him after 8pm on November 13, 2010, and said he was leaving the hotel where the couple were staying. Tongo drove the shuttle bus the Dewanis were in.
Qwabe phoned Mngeni and they decided to meet in Gugulethu, Cape Town.
On their way to Gugulethu, on the N2 highway, Tongo phoned them around 9pm and said he had already left Gugulethu and was on his way to Somerset West. They decided to go back to Khayelitsha and parted ways.
Tongo phoned him later that evening and said he was at a restaurant in Somerset West.
"He said the husband wanted his wife to be killed that same evening," Qwabe said.
Qwabe and Mngeni made their way to a tavern, Sop's Place, and arranged with a man named Mawanda to give them a lift back to Gugulethu.
When they got to Gugulethu, they made their way on foot to the intersection where they had agreed the hijacking would happen, about 120m away.
"At that time I had yellow kitchen gloves on, for [hiding my] fingerprints."
He got a text message from Tongo saying he was on his way.
While he was relieving himself against a fence, Mngeni told him a car was approaching.
When the car arrived, Mngeni pointed a gun at the driver.
Qwabe got into the driver's seat and Mngeni into the front passenger seat. Tongo moved to the back seat where there was a "guy and lady".
He drove the vehicle and Mngeni "calmed" the passengers by asking them to keep quiet and not try anything.
Qwabe said he could not see the reactions of the passengers as he was focused on driving. He stopped at an intersection facing the police barracks and ordered Tongo out of the car.
"As he was getting out, he said the money was in the pouch behind the front passenger door."
He started the vehicle again and took a ramp onto the N2 towards Khayelitsha. He took the Baden Powell Drive turn-off and drove through Kuyasa and eNkanini.
He stopped the vehicle between Harare and Kuyasa and asked the husband to get out of the car, go to one of the nearby houses, and report the hijacking.
Mopp asked what the husband's reaction was.
"I don't recall," he said.
Qwabe drove off with Mngeni and the wife towards Mew Way in Khayelitsha.
"While I am there between Ilitha Park and Ndlovini, I hear a gunshot, and after the gunshot I got a shock and turned into the first turn-off into Ilitha Park."
He asked Mngeni what he had done. He replied that he "shot the lady".
Qwabe stopped the car and saw Mngeni look for the bullet casing. Qwabe helped him and found it on the floor at the back of the car.
As they walked away, Qwabe said he threw the bullet casing into a storm-water drain.
Mngeni showed him a silver digital camera and three phones -- two BlackBerry phones and a brown Nokia. He recognised the brown phone as Tongo's.
Mngeni took out the money he had retrieved from the car pouch.
"We counted the money while we were walking and it only comes to R10,000. He shows me another stack of some R4000 that he said he got from the husband," Qwabe said.
Qwabe parted ways with Mngeni and went to a party. Mngeni left with the firearm.
Source : Sapa /je/jk/lp/ar/th
Date : 08 Oct 2014 13:14
silver6933
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Yeah this guy is definitely telling the truth(not!)
The callousness in SA is shocking
If this was planned in advance, why would he be shocked?
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So apparently Dewani is a member of an online site called gaydar and some other. He's reported to have logged in to the sites while at the airport on arrival for his honeymoon and again after his wife was murdered :wtf:
Grant
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aaah, gaydar
you could probably comfortably add:
manhunt
dudesnude
grindr
and a few more i wont add here
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Rouxenator
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WTF does his sexual preference has to do with anything?
I think the prosecution is trying to establish intent and motive - i.e. he had a secret life as a gay man and needed to get his wife out of the way
Rouxenator
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So what, I am married and bi, that does not prove anything.
We know that the SAPS has a good track record of fabricate facts, like in the Inge Lotz case. A much simpler explanation for the whole incident would be that the murderer and his accomplices knew Dewani was loaded and tried to kidnap his newly wed wife.
Lets take the case tragic case of Taegrin Morris. Just like 4 year old that was killed when he was dragged behind his mother's hijacked car, so too Anni was an unfortunate victim of crime in SA. Why did his Taegrin's sister and mother survive? Was it not perhaps planned like that? She wanted only one child? Needed the insurance money on the car...? See how easy it is to start fabricating stories like this? Fitting proof to it is as easy as 1.2.3 Inge Lotz
It is bothersome that in a country like SA where we see hijacking and murder everyday and know it is purely our of greed that we can still entertain such far fetched theories. Not only entertain but actually believe it.
We know that the SAPS has a good track record of fabricate facts, like in the Inge Lotz case. A much simpler explanation for the whole incident would be that the murderer and his accomplices knew Dewani was loaded and tried to kidnap his newly wed wife.
Lets take the case tragic case of Taegrin Morris. Just like 4 year old that was killed when he was dragged behind his mother's hijacked car, so too Anni was an unfortunate victim of crime in SA. Why did his Taegrin's sister and mother survive? Was it not perhaps planned like that? She wanted only one child? Needed the insurance money on the car...? See how easy it is to start fabricating stories like this? Fitting proof to it is as easy as 1.2.3 Inge Lotz
It is bothersome that in a country like SA where we see hijacking and murder everyday and know it is purely our of greed that we can still entertain such far fetched theories. Not only entertain but actually believe it.
I agree with you that your explanation is simpler, but I also assume you don't keep your sexuality a secret from your wife and she's aware that you visit male prostitutes and hang out on gay dating sites
Rouxenator
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There are very good reasons, non of which can be seen as motives to murder, for Dewani to withhold that information.
Of course. We will have to assume for the moment the prosecution has more evidence we've yet to hear, including testimony from the prostitute he visited and apparently spoke to about the marriage he needed to find a way out of.
riverdusty
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I wonder if SAPS got their hands on the cash, be interesting to do CSI Fingerprint style type vibe on those notes.
What would Dewani say if they had his fingerprints on the cash?
What would Dewani say if they had his fingerprints on the cash?
Rouxenator
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The cash he paid for the helicopter flight around the peninsula ?
R13...
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I also don't get the sex thing on the case, but Dewani's story doesn't add up. He books at a high end hotel and elects to go find some random taxi instead of a hotel shuttle. Then uses same random taxi for township dinner date instead of the hotel services.
Rouxenator
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The guy organizing those "random" taxi services worked at the hotel. Have a look at "BBC Panorama 2013 The Honeymoon Murder Who Killed Anni"