The Audi Thread

[f2wohf]

Which model of the Audi A4 range has a proper automatic or a less problematic automatic gear box?

Anything more recent than 2013 from what I understood.

 

[FiestaST]

 

[Corbin]

Which model of the Audi A4 range has a proper automatic or a less problematic automatic gear box?

Would also like to know. In the market for a B8 that must last at least 5 years

 

[Gtx Gaming]

Would also like to know. In the market for a B8 that must last at least 5 years

There was some higher end audi's fitted with tiptronic boxes, which is a "proper" automatic.

3.2 FSI quattro, 6-speed Tiptronic
3.0 TDI quattro, 6-speed Tiptronic

From the B8 range, those had tiptronic boxes.

 

[FiestaST]

Audi introduces new model naming system

New model designations will be linked to engine output rather than capacity

Audi is adopting a new naming structure across its range, in which model designations will be linked to power output rather than engine capacity.

The German firm says the move will allow future models to reflect the added performance delivered by electric-powered hybrid systems and/or pure electric powertrains, such as that being developed for the company’s 2018 E-tron SUV.

The new naming process groups together models on a scale that runs from 30 to 70, with 30 being models having a power output between 107bhp and 127bhp and 70 being reserved for models packing more than 529bhp.

The names increase in an increment of five depending on the output of any specific model. As an example, the Q2 1.6 TDI will become the Q2 30 TDI.

This initially creates eight new model designations:

- 30 for models with between 81 and 96kW (107 and 127bhp)

- 35 for models with between 110 and 120kW (145 and 159bhp)

- 40 for models with between 125 and 150kW (165 and 198bhp)

- 45 for models with between 169 and 185kW (223 and 244bhp)

- 50 for models with between 210 and 230kW (278 and 304bhp)

- 60 for models with between 320 and 340kW (423 and 449bhp)

- 70 for models with more than 400kW (529bhp)

The designation of each model is linked directly to the output of the driveline, irrespective of its layout. The new names will apply to all standard Audi models, meaning that petrol, diesel, natural gas, plug-in hybrid and electric powertrain models will be directly comparable.

Dietmar Voggenreiter, Audi's head of sales and marketing, said: “As alternative drive technologies become increasingly relevant, engine displacement as a performance attribute is becoming less important to our customers. The clarity and logic of structuring the designations according to power output makes it possible to distinguish between the various performance levels.”

The roll out of Audi’s new models is set to begin during the third quarter of 2017 with the new A8: the traditional 3.0 TDI diesel will become the 50 TDI, and the 3.0 TFSI petrol the 55 TFSI. The parameters of 55 models are yet to be confirmed.

The new Audi names will only apply to standard models, with S and RS models and the R8 retaining their classic names "in reference to their top position in the model range”.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/audi-introduces-new-model-naming-system

My thoughts:

 

[Niner]

Wtf did I just read?! Even more reason to make the next car a Disco 5 and not an Audi...

 

[phoenix99]

 

[epah]

 

[FiestaST]

Audi Is Adding Two Digits To Its Car Names Just To Make Sure You Stay Confused

I feel a little weird writing yet another Audi-and-numbers story in just one day, but sometimes fate has some funny ideas. Today Audi informed the world that it is changing its vehicle nomenclature system with the addition of a two-digit code that, as far as I can tell, will solve the problem of people not being confused enough about Audi model names.

Previously, Audi has mostly used a letter+number combos: A3, A4, S3, Q7, and so on. They also have TT, R8, and various ‘coupe’ and ‘sportback’ and ‘cabriolet’ descriptors as well. A for normal cars, S and RS for fast stuff, Q for crossovers, etc. It’s not amazing, but it generally works.

Here’s what they want to add:

Audi is adopting a standardized nomenclature for the power output designations of its worldwide range of automobiles. The names of the model series – from Audi A1 to Audi Q7 – will remain unchanged. Within the model families, combinations of two numbers will replace the various type designations previously used. The new designations stand for the specific power output and apply both to cars with combustion engines and to e-tronmodels with hybrid and electric drives.
Okay, so, the basic model names stay the same, but Audi wants to add two numbers to indicate power output, sort of? If that sounds okay to you so far, I’d like to invite you to read the description of how these two digits will be selected:

The reference value for the new model designations is the power output of the individual model in kilowatts (kW). Audi is thus subclassifying its model range into different performance levels – each identified by a two-numeral combination. For example, the numeral combination “30” will appear on the rear of all models with power output between 81 and 96 kW. And “45” stands for power output between 169 and 185 kW. The top of the Audi model range is the performance class above 400 kW, which is identifiable by the number combination “70”. In each case the numerals appear along with the engine technology – TFSI, TDI, g-tron or e-tron.
Okay, so, if the car has between 108 horsepower and 128 HP, it gets the number ‘30.’ And if the car has between 226 HP and 248 HP, it gets a ‘45.’ Anything above that gets ‘70.’

Easy, right? Just what you’d expect by seeing some numbers that have no real numerical relation to the power output.

Audi goes on, to finish off those of you whose eyelids have yet to drop shut, heavily:

The number combinations identifying the performance levels in the Audi product range increase in increments of five, and they represent the hierarchy within both the respective model series and the brand’s overall model range. According to the new nomenclature, in the future the spectrum will range from the Audi Q2 30 TFSI with 85 kW (combined fuel consumption in l/100 km: 5.4 - 5.1*; CO2 emissions in g/km: 123 - 117*) to the Audi Q7 50 TDI with 200 kW (combined fuel consumption in l/100 km: 6.4 - 5.9*; CO2 emissions in g/km: 168 - 154*). A special place in the line-up is occupied by the high-end, high-performance S and RS models and the Audi R8 (combined fuel consumption in l/100 km: 12.5 - 11.4; combined CO2 emissions in g/km: 292 - 272). They will retain their classic names in reference to their top position in the model range.
I have no idea why in this paragraph Audi decided to throw in even more numbers for fuel economy and CO2 emissions, other than whoever writing this up is a real ****ing mathematical sadist.

Who asked for this? Did a bunch of Audi owners write in and tell them that they loved their car, but they wish there was some way they could really obliquely suggest to other drivers a general range of power output the car had, without, you know, coming out and just sticking the actual hp number (sorry, kW) right on the back?

Is anyone going to look at an Audi with a badge that reads Q5 30 TSFI and take away any useful information? For most people, no, hell no.

I’m baffled why Audi thinks this is so important. If they really wanted to be honest and deliver what their customers were looking for, they’d have badging that looked like this:



More $, the better, of course. You know that’s all anyone is really looking at in a car badge, anyway.

http://jalopnik.com/audi-is-adding-two-digits-to-its-car-names-just-to-make-1798357078

 

[Drifter]

Plain stupid..

 

[FiestaST]

 

[FiestaST]

So Audi shipped thousands of cars with the same VIN

Prosecutors in Germany have discovered that Audi has fitted thousands of cars with the same vehicle identification number (VIN), reports German journal Handelsblatt, according to German journal Handelsblatt.

Documents found during a raid at the luxury automaker's offices convey thousands of cars exported to China, Korea and Japan were given the same VIN.

A VIN is 17-digit bespoke number that cannot be replicated by law, at least in Europe, for 30 years.

Handelsblatt spoke to prosecutors who admitted that they are puzzled by the automaker's action and are investigating the incident.

For the full story read here.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/so-audi-shipped-thousands-of-cars-with-the-same-vin-20170824

 

[FiestaST]

Audi’s new naming strategy may well confuse you…

Audi has announced new power output designations, starting with the latest A8.

Audi has announced the worldwide adoption a new “standardised nomenclature” for the power output designations of its range of vehicles.

The names of each of its model series – so, the A1 and Q2 all the way through to the Q7 and upcoming Q8 – will remain unchanged. However, within each model line, a new combination of two numbers will be introduced (effectively replacing engine displacement badges).

Audi says the new designations stand for the specific power output and apply both to cars with combustion engines and to e-tron models with hybrid and electric drives. The reference value for the new model designations, it says, is the power output of the individual model in kilowatts.

“Audi is thus sub-classifying its model range into different performance levels – each identified by a two-numeral combination. For example, the numeral combination ’30’ will appear on the rear of all models with power output between 81 kW and 96 kW,” the Ingolstadt automaker said.

“And ’45’ stands for power output between 169 and 185 kW. The top of the Audi model range is the performance class above 400 kW, which is identifiable by the number combination ’70’. In each case the numerals appear along with the engine technology – TFSI, TDI, g-tron or e-tron,” the brand explained.

The numerals increase in increments of five, with Audi saying “they represent the hierarchy within both the respective model series and the brand’s overall model range”.

So, under this new nomenclature, the line-up will range from the Audi Q2 30 TFSI (so, with 85 kW) to the Audi Q7 50 TDI (with 200 kW).

Interestingly, the high-performance S and RS derivatives as well as the R8 will retain what Audi calls “their classic names”, sans the new numeral suffixes.

“As alternative drive technologies become increasingly relevant, engine displacement as a performance attribute is becoming less important to our customers. The clarity and logic of structuring the designations according to power output makes it possible to distinguish between the various performance levels,” said Dietmar Voggenreiter, board of management member for sales and marketing at Audi.

The changes will start with the new Audi A8. First among the two six-cylinder engines to be impact will be the 3,0 TDI with 210 kW (as the Audi A8 50 TDI) and the 3,0 TFSI with 250 kW (as the Audi A8 55 TFSI). All subsequent new models launched will be assigned the new badges from when they hit the market.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/audis-new-naming-strategy-may-well-confuse-you/

 

[FiestaST]

Audi to Change Vehicle Naming Structure

Following the market arrival of the new Audi A8 luxury sedan, Audi will be introducing a new nomenclature for all its vehicles. Here’s what you need to know…

We are all familiar with Audi’s current vehicle naming structure consisting of a single letter and a number, as in A1, A3, A4 and going up to the largest SUV vehicles such as the Q7 and forthcoming Q8. However, Audi’s naming structure will change with the arrival of the new recently-revealed A8 luxury sedan which is due to arrive in South Africa in the middle of 2018.

The forthcoming Audi A8 will be the first vehicle to feature the updated nomenclature.

All new Audi models will feature 2 numbers appearing alongside the current designation and engine type. The numbers will represent power output and will include numbers between 30 and 70.

As an example, all models with a power output between 81 kW and 96 kW will wear the ‘30’ designation. The number ‘45’ will be seen on Audi vehicles with outputs between 169 kW and 195 kW. The number ‘50’ represents outputs between 210 kW and 230 kW while ‘55’ will be found on vehicles with 245 kW to 275 kW. Audi performance cars with more than 400 kW will wear the ‘70’ designation. Each number will be accompanied with either TFSI, TDI, G-tron, E-tron and so forth.

The new nomenclature will make it easier to identify models and hierarchy of Audi's vehicle range.

Here is a quick breakdown of the new naming structure:

30 = 109-128 hp (81-96 kW)
35 = 147-160 hp (110-120 kW)
40 = 167-201 hp (125-150 kW)
45 = 226-248 hp (169-185 kW)
50 = 281-308 hp (210-230 kW)
55 = 328-368 hp (245-275 kW)
60 = 429-455 hp (320-340 kW)
70 = 536+ hp (400+ kW)

Audi believes that the new naming structure better represents the hierarchy of its model range and that models will be easier to identify, especially vehicles with electric and hybrid powertrains.

“As alternative drive technologies become increasingly relevant, engine displacement as a performance attribute is becoming less important to our customers," explained Dr. Dietmar Voggenreiter, Board of Management Member for Sales and Marketing at AUDI AG. "The clarity and logic of structuring the designations according to power output makes it possible to distinguish between the various performance levels."

The forthcoming Audi A8 will be the first vehicle to wear the new badges and will arrive with ‘50 TDI’ and ‘55 TFSI’ badges, representing the respective 383 kW and 455 kW of its 6-cylinder engines. After that, all new Audi models will follow this new designation.

http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/audi-to-change-vehicle-naming-structure/43854/

 

[FiestaST]

Audi's new naming strategy for engine derivatives

In the old days it was fairly simple to tell where a vehicle ranked in the performance hierarchy.

There was almost always a badge on the boot lid telling you the cubic capacity of the engine, and back then when almost everything was normally aspirated, similar-sized engines usually produced comparable power, notwithstanding a few exceptions here and there.

In today’s turbocharged world things are quite confused and all over the place, particularly since one engine will usually have a range of different software-dictated power outputs. And then there are the German carmakers that have badges implying a certain engine size, like the '30i' or ‘300’ badges given to cars with a 2-litre engine that’s in a high state of tune.

Now Audi is adding to the confusion with its own numerical hierarchy that will apply to all its engine derivatives across the globe.

This will consist of a whole series of two-numeral combinations that somehow equate to certain power output categories.

For example, if an engine produces between 81kW and 96kW, the bootlid badge will state ‘30’ followed by TFSI, TDI, g-tron or e-tron depending on what fuels it. Audi hasn’t provided the full list of numbers and what outputs they relate to, but the statement did mention ‘45’ for engines that produce between 169kW and 185kW, while the 250kW A8 TFSI will wear a ‘55’ badge.

However, S and RS models, along with the R8, are excluded from this naming system, in order to distinguish them as the top dogs.

The usual model names, such as A1, A3, A4 etc, and all the Q cousins, will remain unchanged as this naming strategy applies only to engine badges.

Perhaps there is a need for something like this, given that engine sizes no longer tell you much, but unless all the car companies agreed to use the same naming system, we’re probably going to end up with more confusion than anything else.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indu...ming-strategy-for-engine-derivatives-10919048

 

[Marius Flash]

I know this is an Audi thread......
Was chatting to a client who owns a Audi A3 2 litre Auto 2006 model with 356,000Km on the clock. Question is: At this mileage, would you say the book value is around R75K - R80K ?

He also mentioned that should he sell to buy another vehicle he would look to Merc and BMW if he can't find a suitable Audi.

So basically Audi. Merc and BMW are cars that can be clearly regarded as cars to own.

 

[airborne]

I know this is an Audi thread......
Was chatting to a client who owns a Audi A3 2 litre Auto 2006 model with 356,000Km on the clock. Question is: At this mileage, would you say the book value is around R75K - R80K ?

He also mentioned that should he sell to buy another vehicle he would look to Merc and BMW if he can't find a suitable Audi.

So basically Audi. Merc and BMW are cars that can be clearly regarded as cars to own.

At that age and milage HELL NO!!

In addition the value of just about any German car tank after passing the 10yrs old mark, seriously nose dive unless they are low mileage and mint, even then not great relative to the original purchase price.

 

[FiestaST]

Audi’s reasoning for revising its naming strategy…

Audi recently announced the adoption of a new, somewhat confusing “standardised nomenclature” for the power output designations of its range of vehicles. That means that within each model line, a new combination of two numbers will be introduced to effectively replace engine displacement badges.

The new two-digit numerals will range from “30” to “70”, in increments of five.

Why the change, you ask? Well, as the studious folks over at Inside EVs point out, the decision to launch the revised naming strategy is due to the fact that the Ingolstadt automaker is in the process of extensively diversifying its powertrain options.

The new naming structure, the report explains, will allow customers to directly compare Audi models that use traditional combustion engines to those that employ hybrid and electric powertrains. In short, Audi believes this will make it easier to understand exactly where each model – be it petrol, diesel, hybrid, full-electric or natural gas – fits into its respective range.

So, in theory, you’d be able to see that the 150 kW plug-in hybrid A3 Sportback e-tron (which uses a 1,4 TFSI combined with an electric motor) offered in some markets provides similar performance to the 140 kW A3 Sportback 2,0 TFSI. As we understand it, both would wear the new “40” badge: i.e. they’d be branded the A3 40 e-tron and A3 40 TFSI, respectively.

In addition, as Dietmar Voggenreiter, board of management member for sales and marketing at Audi, points out, engine displacement is no longer necessarily a reliable indicator of outright performance, thanks to both downsizing and the use of alternative power sources.

“As alternative drive technologies become increasingly relevant, engine displacement as a performance attribute is becoming less important to our customers.

“The clarity and logic of structuring the designations according to power output makes it possible to distinguish between the various performance levels,” said Voggenreiter.

Still, we can’t help but think that this nomenclature change will end up actually creating even more confusion…

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/audis-reasoning-for-revising-its-naming-strategy/

 

[Gaz{M}]

I see the need and logic for a new naming convention. I just think the one they chose is ****ing stupid.

"What you driving, Dave?"

"An A3 40".

"What, you're a pilot now!? Since when. Can I get a free ticket?"

 

[FiestaST]

Audi Sport boss is ‘very keen’ to build a hypercar…

The head of Audi Sport wants to build a low-volume halo car positioned above the R8.

The head of Audi Sport has admitted that he is “very keen” to build a low-volume hypercar positioned above the R8, but says other more pressing projects need attention first.

Speaking to Automotive News, Stephan Winkelmann – who spent some nine years at the helm of Lamborghini – said that he was eager to create an exotic halo car for Ingolstadt’s performance sub-brand.

“I’m very keen on working on this in the future,” Winkelmann said. “I think not only the brand deserves it, but there is a demand outside, and the [customers] are looking into it,” he added.

The report suggested that this proposed hypercar would make use of components from the Volkswagen Group parts bin, but that the finished product would be infused with “Audi’s DNA”.

Winkelmann, however, added that he first needed to grow the rest of the Audi Sport range, hinting that the RS badge would be applied to more crossovers in the near future.

“This is important because this is one of the things which is allowing you to have a worldwide presence. The [crossover] segment is growing, and we have good synergies there, and we also have fantastic cars in terms of design and performance.”

Of course, an RS Q5 is likely to be revealed before the end of 2017, positioned above the existing RS Q3, while a range-topping RS Q8 also appears to be on the cards.

Audi Sport will furthermore try its hand at adding sportiness to the German brand’s upcoming range of all-electric vehicles, with Winkelmann targeting 2020 or 2021 for the first examples.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/audi-sport-boss-is-very-keen-to-build-a-hypercar/