The Beginner Biker Thread

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This thread is for beginner/prospective motorcyclists who might have questions that only experienced motorcyclists can answer.
 
Could someone please recommend a few motorcycle driving schools in Gauteng? I haven’t seen any since I started looking.

I once asked a former colleague of mine and he nonchalantly said I should just buy a 125cc bike and teach myself how to ride. I’m not too comfortable with this approach.
 
Could someone please recommend a few motorcycle driving schools in Gauteng? I haven’t seen any since I started looking.

I once asked a former colleague of mine and he nonchalantly said I should just buy a 125cc bike and teach myself how to ride. I’m not too comfortable with this approach.
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Could someone please recommend a few motorcycle driving schools in Gauteng? I haven’t seen any since I started looking.

I once asked a former colleague of mine and he nonchalantly said I should just buy a 125cc bike and teach myself how to ride. I’m not too comfortable with this approach.

Reviews are good as well.
 
Could someone please recommend a few motorcycle driving schools in Gauteng? I haven’t seen any since I started looking.

I once asked a former colleague of mine and he nonchalantly said I should just buy a 125cc bike and teach myself how to ride. I’m not too comfortable with this approach.
Biker Bravado. Malcolm is excellent

I’m self taught. It’s a sure way to learn a lot of bad habits. Malcolm corrected everything and made me a better rider.

I started on a 425cc and jumped to a 1200 quite quickly. Taught my fiance on the 425 as well.
 
Biker Bravado. Malcolm is excellent

I’m self taught. It’s a sure way to learn a lot of bad habits. Malcolm corrected everything and made me a better rider.

I started on a 425cc and jumped to a 1200 quite quickly. Taught my fiance on the 425 as well.
That’s encouraging! I’ll check them out.
 
What’s a good beginner motorcycle (>125cc) to start on, that’s fairly easy to handle and not too expensive?
(For someone +\- 1.65m)

I’d want to

For the license test, do both feet have to be able to be flat on the ground?
 
What’s a good beginner motorcycle (>125cc) to start on, that’s fairly easy to handle and not too expensive?
(For someone +\- 1.65m)

I’d want to

For the license test, do both feet have to be able to be flat on the ground?
I’ve only heard good things about the Kawasaki Ninja 250 and 300. Let’s see what the experienced riders will say.
 
What’s a good beginner motorcycle (>125cc) to start on, that’s fairly easy to handle and not too expensive?
(For someone +\- 1.65m)

I’d want to

For the license test, do both feet have to be able to be flat on the ground?
Maybe look at something like the Honda Tornado. You can usually pick them up for around R25k. Just be prepared - they aren't exactly powerhouses, but offer a low-ish seating position which should be fine depending on your inseam.

No, as long as you don't fall over you will be fine. But a bike you can flat-foot will make the hill start section of the test easier. Ideally, you'd want a bike that has predictable power delivery with a low centre of gravity and low mass.
 
Do not underestimate the value of the right biking gear. Decent helmet, gloves, jacket and riding pants make a world of difference. It is all than protect you in case of an oopsie. That can cost quite a bit.

Then, bikes are like viruses. Once in your blood, it is difficult to get rid of.

Get a decent bike to start off with, but then to ride a bike is quite easy. I trained my wife on a 650. Easy peasy. Just respect the throttle, call it SIR. Especially when you get to 1liter bikes, the throttle MUST be respected.

The 2 biggest things you need to learn is how to corner a bike properly and it is contra intuitive, and to learn to look out and think for all road users around you. I always ride with the premise that all other road user are out to kill me. It served me well.

And remeber, there ate 2 kinds of bikers. Bold ones and old ones, but no bold old ones. As biker one is very vulnerable.
 
A second hand Honda 250cc Twister might be a good idea. The second hand nature comes handy when you drop it a couple of times while learning to ride.
 
Learning the absolute basics on a dirt bike makes for an easier transition to road. Learn clutch control, gearing and become comfortable enough to try asphalt. Easiest most forgiving dirt bikes are the likes of Honda CRF 230 f or possibly smaller or Yamaha TTR 230.

Once you are comfortable maneuvering and operating all the brakes / gear lever etc, think about which type of motorcycle you ultimately see yourself riding. I see it basically as 3 different riding positions (the way you are seated);

1- Superbike (Forward Position)
2- Naked Bike / Street Fighters (Semi Upright)
3- Cruisers / Dual Sport (Upright)

Each of these you learn slightly different characteristics of riding style. Currently there are a great number of small engine capacity versions of all of these (roughly 300cc to 400cc). Pick your preferred riding style and kit yourself up accordingly. Yup, different gear depending on the type of riding style. I'm not saying go buy a full racing suite for a Superbike, but at least get decent pants (X-Kulcha for example) which are stylish and comfortable. Definitely a Jacket with proper padding and protection. Some gloves and boots / shoes, don't skimp on the boots / shoes, I've seen some missing toes on some damn decent bikers.

Now last but certainly not least, the helmet. Get a decent helmet! Full face can be used for all styles of riding, unless you are inclined to the Dual Sport bikes, then the peaked helmets are better. Suggestions that don't necessary break your bank are HJC or Shark. In my opinion, if your helmet is sub R5000, its not worth it. If you have the money, Arai, Shoei, Bell etc...

And I will always suggest getting an neck brace, there are quite a few brands out there with models for the style of riding you are going to do. My go to is Leatt, the original and best in my opinion.
 
LMAO. Then you might as well go for a Hyabusa or turbocharged Ninja H2. Great beginners bikes as well.


No but it makes the steep incline stop/go test easier. If the bike rolls back even 1 cm you fail and have to go straight to the office to book a new appointment. Well this was in my day maybe it changed. You had to stop on the incline, ignition off, then start the bike and take off without rolling back. I had a kick-start bike and of course failed when it rolled back when I attempted to start. Maybe the test officer was just a **** idk. Good times.
Small trick for the hill take off, only use your rear brake. If you use your front brake and you let it go the change in weight distribution makes it look like the bike rolled backwards.
 
Small trick for the hill take off, only use your rear brake. If you use your front brake and you let it go the change in weight distribution makes it look like the bike rolled backwards.
Yep, that is advice I was given, and pass along every time. I did the test prep course at the bike school behind Langlaagte, can't remember the name but was well worth the money, they run through the test with you and give you some great tips.
 
Yep, that is advice I was given, and pass along every time. I did the test prep course at the bike school behind Langlaagte, can't remember the name but was well worth the money, they run through the test with you and give you some great tips.
Unless you have bike with Brake / Hold Assist (its bloody marvelous)
 
I’ve only heard good things about the Kawasaki Ninja 250 and 300. Let’s see what the experienced riders will say.

Just a thing to remember with small bikes - in a car, your most used method of getting out of trouble is brakes. On a bike, you use the throttle and nimbleness quite a bit. The small bikes don't have the acceleration to get you out of trouble. Also, on a smaller bike, you tend to take chances you wouldn't on a big bike as you don't want to lose speed and have to accelerate again.

Larger capacity twin cylinders aren't scary and are great beginner bikes. Bigger tends to have more in the way of electronic assistance as well - TC, ABS etc. Plus, you don't need to upgrade after 4 months once you start being more comfortable.

Source, my own experience. I never rode a motorcycle, ever. Went to BMW course at Zwartkops, did that on a 310cc. Sold my car Bought a 800GS and rode that, solely, for 3 years. If you can, do an offroad riding course such as the one at ADA, I learned more there than anywhere else.
 
LMAO. Then you might as well go for a Hyabusa or turbocharged Ninja H2. Great beginners bikes as well.


No but it makes the steep incline stop/go test easier. If the bike rolls back even 1 cm you fail and have to go straight to the office to book a new appointment. Well this was in my day maybe it changed. You had to stop on the incline, ignition off, then start the bike and take off without rolling back. I had a kick-start bike and of course failed when it rolled back when I attempted to start. Maybe the test officer was just a **** idk. Good times.

The officers can be dicks. The person that had their test before me had "ensured success"... So when they were the walk around, officer was telling him things like - and what about the tyres, the brakepads etc. I thought this was normal, so expected the same, but no, when my test came, the dude just stood there in silence.
 
What about a Vespa. I'm tempted to get one roam around locally but I have no idea how to get a license.
 
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