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[Sensorei]

What can I do to spped up recovery of muscles. My arms are sore and almost locked. Full of lactic acid. Dont want Voltaren Injections but use the gel and then it messes the training routine cause I cant do other body parts cause I need my arms.sore on the sides of the elbows.

Your arms get sore there like that when you don't train them regularly and then hit it hard, or if you are overtraining them and not eating enough protein. But once you have been in a routine for a while the burning pain goes as long as you are getting enough recovery time. Glutamine will help but I find it really only works at high doses which can be expensive.

The pain you are feeling is not lactic acid build up but from micro tears in the muscle fibers. It hurts like hell but means muscle will grow back stronger as long as you give them enough time to recover

 

[JerryMungo]

What can I do to spped up recovery of muscles. My arms are sore and almost locked. Full of lactic acid. Dont want Voltaren Injections but use the gel and then it messes the training routine cause I cant do other body parts cause I need my arms.sore on the sides of the elbows.

It will come right after a couple of sessions - you need to slowly straighten them out - what is actually happening is the tendons are binding in their shafts as your arms recover. Try to sleep with them straight and whenever possible, straighten them slowly... I know the feeling, been there too often from breaks in training.

 

[Ecco]

Started with Evox Synergy Whey as a protein shake last year. Almost done with my tub. I have had some good results. Before i rush out and buy another tub any recommendations or suggestions for another product?

The goal, help grow muscle. Don't want to put on fat - i have just about got that in check.

Whats the deal with Megagrow or 5XL muscle meal?

 

[FuNkEr]

Howzit guys
Okay, so my Whey protein is almost finished (about 4-5 days left). I used Biogen's 100% ISO Whey, and I must say, I gained about 6kg in the past 2 months using this (and creatine monohydrate). So now I'm in the market for some Whey. I heard a lot of good stuff about Evox's Synergy Whey? And then there's Muscle Science and SSN also.
I kinda don't know what to try out next.
Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Regards
*edit* sorry, didn't read the previous post(s)

 

[Ecco]

Howzit guys
Okay, so my Whey protein is almost finished (about 4-5 days left). I used Biogen's 100% ISO Whey, and I must say, I gained about 6kg in the past 2 month using this (and creatine monohydrate). So now I'm in the market for some Whey. I heard a lot of good stuff about Evox's Synergy Whey? And then there's Muscle Science and SSN also.
I kinda don't know what to try out next.
Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Regards
*edit* sorry, didn't read the previous post(s)

6kg's in two months is better then I did on the Synergy Whey. So maybe the ISO Whey is a better choice.

 

[*SynergyX*]

5xl is used mainly as a meal replacement as it provides low gi carbs which are needed to bulk...so if you are lookinf to bulk go for the 5xl
megagrow is for the skinny chumps lokig to put on some size can easily pick up weight using this stuff.

 

[Ecco]

5xl is used mainly as a meal replacement as it provides low gi carbs which are needed to bulk...so if you are lookinf to bulk go for the 5xl
megagrow is for the skinny chumps lokig to put on some size can easily pick up weight using this stuff.

I am not skinny, so i can rule out the megagrow.

With the 5XL, when would be the best time to take the shake? If it contains low gi carbs, surely you would take this before your training session as opposed to after (like i do with the synergy)

Could i take both? 5XL as a morning shake, and Synergy as a post workout shake in the evening?

The information on the products are so vague.

 

[Zenbaas]

Howzit guys
Okay, so my Whey protein is almost finished (about 4-5 days left). I used Biogen's 100% ISO Whey, and I must say, I gained about 6kg in the past 2 months using this (and creatine monohydrate). So now I'm in the market for some Whey. I heard a lot of good stuff about Evox's Synergy Whey? And then there's Muscle Science and SSN also.
I kinda don't know what to try out next.
Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Regards
*edit* sorry, didn't read the previous post(s)

For me I try and avoid USN products, and because USN manufactures Biogen for dischem I still avoid it. Evox's synergy whey is real nice and Ive used it before with success. However, your gains are in all likelihood due to a bunch of things and not just the whey. For me Isolate whey does not really justify the price unless it's close-ish to the price of concentrate.

In any case I have switched over to a supplement company that provides the raw ingredients (ie. no crap added). And so far Im very happy with everything.
http://www.basicsupplements.co.za/products

6kg's in two months is better then I did on the Synergy Whey. So maybe the ISO Whey is a better choice.

Or just maybe you are two different people

 

[FuNkEr]

Thanks guys.. I think I'm going to try something new. So I'll probably get myself Evox Synergy Whey! Thanks a lot!

 

[*SynergyX*]

I am not skinny, so i can rule out the megagrow.

With the 5XL, when would be the best time to take the shake? If it contains low gi carbs, surely you would take this before your training session as opposed to after (like i do with the synergy)

Could i take both? 5XL as a morning shake, and Synergy as a post workout shake in the evening?

The information on the products are so vague.

depends what you trying to achieve...to maintain i take 5xl twice a day(10am and around 4pm(train around this time)) and synergy 3 times a day (immediatly upon waking, around 2pm, around 8pm)

to bulk i would take 5xl up to 3 times a day on full dosage, and obviously eat a whole lot more.

for you it would depend on what your meals consist of through out the day, if you getting enough protein from your meals, whey once or twice should be fine, but if you need the extra protein 3 times a day is whats recommended.

 

[JerryMungo]

Both 5XL and Synergy work well... Synergy on it's own if you are cutting is great - easier to control the carbs.

 

[FuNkEr]

Well, I actually want to put on more muscle mass. I struggle to gain weight. But I also don't want to overdo on the carbs : /

 

[JerryMungo]

Well, I actually want to put on more muscle mass. I struggle to gain weight. But I also don't want to overdo on the carbs : /

Ok, here's my serious advice:
Change your routine to include supersets / dropsets or giant sets.
Do complex exersices - those that work more than just one muscle - front squats for example. Those exerscises are brilliant for overall gain and you CAN take in the extra carbs and bulk without too much on the bad effects.
Eat whole food but for suppliments, take something with a good carb base. They are usually good low GI carbs, so it's not like you will blow up like a baloon, but what will happen is you will have far more stamina in the gym and you will put on muscle. Carbs are not your enemy - sugars and high GI carbs are. Without carbs your body won't be able to really put on the muscle - it needs energy to do a full repair. Carbs + protein is a winner. Obviously you should do it in stages - go 6 weeks or more then change your routine and diet a bit.

The thing about giant sets is that you get an awesome cardio workout while pushing weights and don't have to do as long a session since you are doing set after set. Give it two sessions to get into it if you are relatively fit.

Check this out:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne2.htm

 

[Helghast]

I see peanut butter is on the OP's meal plan. Is it good for your body? cos I have it everyday and I want to know if its any use? and instead of your monster breakfast can someone tell me something else to eat in the morning that would take me 20min to make and eat since my mornings are tight

 

[FuNkEr]

Ok, here's my serious advice:
Change your routine to include supersets / dropsets or giant sets.
Do complex exersices - those that work more than just one muscle - front squats for example. Those exerscises are brilliant for overall gain and you CAN take in the extra carbs and bulk without too much on the bad effects.
Eat whole food but for suppliments, take something with a good carb base. They are usually good low GI carbs, so it's not like you will blow up like a baloon, but what will happen is you will have far more stamina in the gym and you will put on muscle. Carbs are not your enemy - sugars and high GI carbs are. Without carbs your body won't be able to really put on the muscle - it needs energy to do a full repair. Carbs + protein is a winner. Obviously you should do it in stages - go 6 weeks or more then change your routine and diet a bit.

The thing about giant sets is that you get an awesome cardio workout while pushing weights and don't have to do as long a session since you are doing set after set. Give it two sessions to get into it if you are relatively fit.

Check this out:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne2.htm

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate the input!

 

[FuNkEr]

I see peanut butter is on the OP's meal plan. Is it good for your body? cos I have it everyday and I want to know if its any use? and instead of your monster breakfast can someone tell me something else to eat in the morning that would take me 20min to make and eat since my mornings are tight

I also eat in a rush. Oats, toast with A LOT of peanutbutter, a banana... And here and there something extra. That's what I usually do. But it's surely not the most "effective" or "best" breakfast.

 

[FuNkEr]

Another thing.... Training about 5 times a week as follows:
Monday: Chest & Biceps
Tuesday: Legs (or Legs & Biceps)
Wednesday: Shoulders
Thursday: Back
Friday: Triceps

with abs also each day, would you say it's an efficient/effective way of training? I try and bring in some variety each week, 'cause I think muscle memory is a reality!
Thanks
Regards.

 

[DigitalSoldier]

Rapid i got better results on animal cuts dude, That is the bloody shyte!!!!!!!! Expensive but by far the best fat burner on the market.

killa, did you use the Universal Animal Cuts and did you experience any side effects ?

I'm thinking of ordering from http://www.supplementworld.co.za/universal-animal-cuts.html

 

[JerryMungo]

Another thing.... Training about 5 times a week as follows:
Monday: Chest & Biceps
Tuesday: Legs (or Legs & Biceps)
Wednesday: Shoulders
Thursday: Back
Friday: Triceps

with abs also each day, would you say it's an efficient/effective way of training? I try and bring in some variety each week, 'cause I think muscle memory is a reality!
Thanks
Regards.

Don't do abs every day IMO:
http://www.google.co.ke/search?q=ov...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

You're spot on with muscle memory - thats why the P90X system has been so successful - they do a really awesome combination to change your approach every few weeks - it works for people cutting as well as gainers.

I like your approach of concentrating on a muscle group per session, I personally do two at a time (like your chest and bi's) since I don't have 5 days a week every week to train - with exception of legs - I split hams and the rest. Also, make sure the exersices you chose include some core and complex sets:

Hamstrings for e.g. you can giant set:
Good Mornings
Deadlifts
Glute ham raisers (my fav for hams!)

Then when you have done those x3 with 1-2 min break in between, finish off with 3 sets of leg curls. The good mornings and deadlifts give you great core input and the glute hams give you good calf pull too. If you are working 5 days a week, then yeah, you look like you are doing great, but remember not to overtrain... too much can have negative effect. Keep up good water intake and get sleep - that's when your muscle grows - not when you train but when you recover. Since you are alternating muscle groups with your workouts, you should be safe but keep up the carbs and protein with whole food being your first choice and suppliment second - i.e. don't skimp on the meals while keeping the suppliment going. More frequent smaller meals are good or just suppliment in between. Don't eat carbs too late, it may be worth using the synergy later before bed and the 5xl or other during the day and definitely post workout.

Also, check out the p90x routines on the web... the system covers diet and routine and the diet is as good as the routine - both are excellent. They may not be for you, but by looking at it, you get the gist of confusing muscle and covering your bases.

 

[Tamerlane]

Im a beast and when I flex my pecs Panties get moist.