The Bodybuilders Thread!

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Awesome, will give it a try. Has anyone used VPX N.O. Shutgun before? I'm thinking of buying it. Well, it's between that, Gaspari SuperPump 250 or MuscleTech naNO Vapor.

My previous training partner used the Shotgun for about 2 months. He said it gave him a brief rush and pump but it never lasted long. Nothing worth the price. IMO these type of supps are not worth the buck at all.
 
Oh well... I just placed my order for NO Shotgun... Will see how it works. Each person speaks from the perspective of what works for them. So I'll give it a try ;)
 
Sooo.. I used the N.O. Shotgun today for the first time, and dear mother, does it work!! Nice pumps and extreme focus in the gym with that well needed surge of energy when you need it. With only a day's experience with this stuff, I will recommend it ;)
 
í'm done with NO supplements, took for ~2 years, stopped last month and feel so much better, the frequent headaches seem to be gone.. i won't go that route again in a hurry - you also become psychologically dependant on them (in the gym)
 
í'm done with NO supplements, took for ~2 years, stopped last month and feel so much better, the frequent headaches seem to be gone.. i won't go that route again in a hurry - you also become psychologically dependant on them (in the gym)

Well, I did cycle for about 3 months, where I stayed clean from any creatine or supplements like these. Going to use one tub and then go on normal creatine ester for another month and then cycle again until summer time ;)
So I'm not a very frequent user. But at the end of the day it boils down to what works for each individual (IMO).
 
Got another question for the big deadlifters here!!

Last week I tested my max and pulled 250kgs. I got a friend to catch it on video so I could check my form. Now I've got some bad habits I can't seem to break. I never keep my neck neutral, I always seem to look up. Obviously I just need to remind myself of this until I break this habit but there are some other things. I seem to lock out my legs too early. It doesn't happen when I'm using a weight I can rep with but it does towards the end when I'm quite fatigue and clearly now when I max out. Is this caused by weak points or is it just something that is typical when maxing out? Other than that it was fine. Back was straight the whole way expect for the neck part while looking up.
 
Would be nice to see your vid so I can comment on your form. Why not put it on YouTube for a looksee?

Great pull, BTW!
 
Your form looks ok. You are very fast off the floor but your lockout is definitely weak. I would recommend that you do lots of work to strengthen the lockout and specifically the muscles involved namely the entire upper back. Do lots of rack lockouts (if your gym has a power rack), heavy bar shrugs and stuff like that.

I had exactly the same problem for years and everybody kept telling me to strengthen my hips and focus on pushing the hips forward during lockout. I followed this advice for years and years until I eventually realised that it ain't working and that the UPPER back, NOT the lower back actually performs the actual lockout. As soon as I realised this my deadlift went from 320kg to 350kg in six months and is still improving all the time.

Judging by that video I'd say that you've got at least a 280kg in you if you fix the weak link in your chain namely the upper back. Heck, 300kg is definitely not out of the question as you are really strong coming up off the floor and right up to a few inches above the knees. Good luck!
 
Your form looks ok. You are very fast off the floor but your lockout is definitely weak. I would recommend that you do lots of work to strengthen the lockout and specifically the muscles involved namely the entire upper back. Do lots of rack lockouts (if your gym has a power rack), heavy bar shrugs and stuff like that.

I had exactly the same problem for years and everybody kept telling me to strengthen my hips and focus on pushing the hips forward during lockout. I followed this advice for years and years until I eventually realised that it ain't working and that the UPPER back, NOT the lower back actually performs the actual lockout. As soon as I realised this my deadlift went from 320kg to 350kg in six months and is still improving all the time.

Judging by that video I'd say that you've got at least a 280kg in you if you fix the weak link in your chain namely the upper back. Heck, 300kg is definitely not out of the question as you are really strong coming up off the floor and right up to a few inches above the knees. Good luck!

Thanks so much for the advice! I will definitely work on that!
 
Hey guys, I have decided that I want to put on some weight, hopefully some decent muscle weight lol. Currently I'm 17, weigh 68kg's and I'm roughly 1,76m tall so I'm relatively skinny. I cant get to a gym everyday but have decided to get myself a bench, some weights, a barbell and adjustable dumbbells. I have read some of this thread but obviously it would take forever to read the whole thing. Can anyone give me some good advice as to training schedules, willing to work quite hard specially seeing as a relatively long holiday has just started. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks :)
 
Hey guys, I have decided that I want to put on some weight, hopefully some decent muscle weight lol. Currently I'm 17, weigh 68kg's and I'm roughly 1,76m tall so I'm relatively skinny. I cant get to a gym everyday but have decided to get myself a bench, some weights, a barbell and adjustable dumbbells. I have read some of this thread but obviously it would take forever to read the whole thing. Can anyone give me some good advice as to training schedules, willing to work quite hard specially seeing as a relatively long holiday has just started. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks :)

Consistency is key! Keep training hard and regularly. Rest is also key! Ok a lot of things are key in this. Someone once told me you can't out train a ****ty diet. Its true... you can't. Get your diet right along with your training and you will grow. You MUST EAT TO GROW! Lots of protein! I'm not saying you must eat til you get fat. You should still eat relatively clean to avoid gaining too much fat but at 68kgs I don't think you will need to worry about that too much. I won't recommend a training program because I've done many types and most work as long as you are pushing hard in the gym, are consistent and eat enough to grow. There are different schools of thought on training programs. Some like to do one body part a week with high volume and longer rest. Some like to train more body parts with less volume and more regularly. For example I do a push/pull split that looks like this. Monday-Legs, Tuesday-Push,Wednesday-Pull,Thursday-REST and I start over again on Friday. I'm hitting everything twice a week this way and the frequency can be great to spark new muscle growth. I also get good strength gains like this. Try and see what works best for you.
 
I would also take a "cruise/deload" week once every 6 weeks or so to give your body a break from it all. I find that a lot of growth comes in then and when you go back to klapping it hard all of your lifts go up. Also don't get caught up in this whole "keep the body guessing!" stuff. Its great to change things around every now and then but too many guys change their routine every 3 weeks and wonder why they don't progress. On the other end too many guys never change it up and wonder why THEY don't progress lol. Well, in my opinion...
 
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Thanks :) I am a bit skeptical of my eating abilities though. Someone told me to go for something like Muscle Science - Muscle mass, any comments? Like I said I'm new to this and I'm listening to everyone's comments and I'm hoping you guys can help me filter out the BS. Thanks
 
I used Muscle Science Grow Extreme I liked it.
Now I'm trying Evox...
 
Do you guys know if it will be save to use N.O. Shotgun (which already contains creatine) and also a creatine ester (like USN X4, or the one I currently have, Evox Creatine Ester V4) together ?
Thanks in advance!
 
I used Muscle Science Grow Extreme I liked it.
Now I'm trying Evox...

Noticing any difference?

EDIT: Can someone also point me to a good starter workout routine, I don't even know where to start haha. Something only involving bench, weights, dumbbells, barbell. No machines please, those are the workout schedules I only seem to be finding.
 
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Noticing any difference?

EDIT: Can someone also point me to a good starter workout routine, I don't even know where to start haha. Something only involving bench, weights, dumbbells, barbell. No machines please, those are the workout schedules I only seem to be finding.

Have a look here ---> http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/main.html
or here ---> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=WorkoutPrograms

Might not be what you're looking for, but it's a start ;)
 
if u r suffering from info overload...

@Ghost02, a colleague pointed out the USN workout programmes for me. I've been gyming for about a year but still am uncertain if i am on the right track in everything that I am doing. Anyways, I havent done these USN workouts, as I have recently started with a personal trainer to see what he can teach me (3 of 12 sessions completed so far).

If u can get yourself a Virgin Active gym membership, the branches I have been to, the fitness instructors that patrol the gym are quite helpful and seem quite knowledgeable.
 
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