The Boko Haram Thread

imranpanji said:
They tend to only get involved where there are vested interests that need to be protected....and those interests take precedence over actually resolving the problem

In this case I don't think anyone will protest more involvement by the western countries as the government itself is either unwilling or unable to do anything in this case
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Too true unfortunately in this case the oil is all in the South and not the North.
 
Nanfeishen said:
Too true unfortunately in this case the oil is all in the South and not the North.
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And you are right, the AU is a waste of space when it comes to these situations. Starting from their poo review mechanism onwards.
 
Nanfeishen said:
China Russia and India all have their own fundamentalists to deal with, and if China or Russia set any troops on the ground in Africa, they would immediatley be accused of "expansionism" by the West and that would open another can of worms.

This is an African issue, but the AU is a toothless crone that can only suck eggs, and is incapable of chewing on anything solid.
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Agreed however the West have their own fundamentalists to deal with as well.
Its time someone else maybe takes the reigns and bares the brunt of the vitriol from Africa when they do.
 
Two female suicide bombers kill four in NE Nigeria

KANO, Nigeria - Four people were killed in the northeast Nigerian city of Potiskum on Sunday, when two female suicide bombers, one of them aged about 15, blew themselves up in a crowded market.

The blasts at the Kasuwar Jagwal mobile phone market in the commercial capital of Yobe State came just a day after a young girl thought to be aged only 10 killed 19 in Maiduguri, in neighbouring Borno State.

Also on Saturday, two people were killed when a car exploded outside a police station in Potiskum.
"We evacuated six bodies including those of the two female suicide bombers to the hospital. Twenty-one people were injured in the attacks.
A security source involved in the rescue operation told AFP of Sunday's bombings: "One of the bombers looked 23 and the other 15.

"The first bomber -- the 23 year-old -- detonated her explosives just outside the entrance of the market, where volunteers were sweeping people going inside the market with metal detectors.
"The second bomber was terrified by the explosion and she tried to dash across the road but she also exploded."
Both the security official and a nurse at the Potiskum General Hospital said six people were confirmed dead and 21 were injured.
Witness Ibrahim Dambam said the second blast went off as people fled the first.
Sunday is Potiskum's market day and attracts traders and shoppers from all over Yobe State and beyond.
Panicked shoppers fled and traders abandoned their stalls at both the mobile phone market and the city's main market, which is just next door.

Some security analysts believe that older women may willingly become human bombs as they share the Islamists' radical ideology or are out to avenge the death of loved ones at the hands of the military.

But the young ages of some of the bombers -- such as the girl in Maiduguri -- and the actions of the 15-year-old in Potiskum suggest that coercion is being used.
A civilian vigilante who witnessed the Maiduguri bombing said of the young bomber: "I doubt if she actually knew what was strapped to her body."
Another eye-witness said it appeared that the bomb was remote-controlled, which chimes with testimony from other attacks across the wider north of Nigeria.
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http://www.enca.com/africa/twin-blasts-market-potiskum-ne-nigeria
 
So, if 2000 people get massacred in the West or Europe you would see some immediate and decisive action by leaders of states.

This is our Presidents agenda.
Zuma on mission to enhance SA relations
2015-01-12 13:01

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma will visit Guinea, Angola and Mozambique this week to enhance relations, the presidency said on Monday.

Zuma will head to Conakry on Monday for consultation with Guinea's President Alpha Condé, spokesperson Mac Maharaj said.

"He will, thereafter, proceed to Luanda, Angola, for consultations with President Jose Eduardo dos Santos on 14 January."

On Thursday, Zuma will attend the inauguration of Mozambique's President Filipe Nyusi.
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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Zuma-on-mission-to-enhance-SA-relations-20150112
:rolleyes:

And people point the finger at the West accusing them of African lives being cheap.
 
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Some security analysts believe that older women may willingly become human bombs as they share the Islamists' radical ideology or are out to avenge the death of loved ones at the hands of the military.
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Well I don't know who else hangs on to radical ideology as much as islam. Sounds about right.
 
Sneeky said:
So, if 2000 people get massacred in the West or Europe you would see some immediate and decisive action by leaders of states.

This is our Presidents agenda.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Zuma-on-mission-to-enhance-SA-relations-20150112
:rolleyes:

And people point the finger at the West accusing them of African lives being cheap.
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I do not see the connection....Nigeria has been a ongoing conflict, whereas Paris was an unexpected attack...added to that...EU is far more integrated than Africa....it would be meddling if you started messing in the internal affairs of another country...

However, Department of International Relations and Co-operations spokesman Clayson Monyela told Business Day that it would be up to the regional economic group of West Africa Ecowas, to decide if interventions from other states in other regions of Africa and internationally were needed to address the crisis.

"Nigeria is part of Ecowas and we are Sadc (South African Development Community). Any action will be decided by Ecowas. As things stand there has not been a request for assistance from Nigeria.

"The region to activate any action will have to be Ecowas, who can forward that to the African Union, United Nations and possibly to the UN Security Council," Mr Monyela said.

No updates of upcoming meetings were posted on the Ecowas website on Sunday.

Ongoing acts of terror by Boko Haram have humiliated the army and government of that country, led by President Goodluck Jonathan, who will look to be re-elected in the country’s elections next month.

Last year the group kidnapped more than 200 schoolgirls in Chibok and forced the hostages to convert to Islam and marry members of the Islamist movement. The schoolgirls have yet to be recovered.
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http://www.bdlive.co.za/africa/afri...e-course-of-action-against-boko-haram-says-sa
 
So what did they promise them?
Surely not 40 virgins each - at such an innocent age
 
Sneeky said:
So, if 2000 people get massacred in the West or Europe you would see some immediate and decisive action by leaders of states.
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Did that happen with the Yugoslav wars? Some major atrocities happened there.
 
And while they faff about Boko Haram grows even stronger playing judge, jury and executioner.
 
grantza said:
Another eye-witness said it appeared that the bomb was remote-controlled, which chimes with testimony from other attacks across the wider north of Nigeria.
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I guess you all missed this they are probably being used as drones.
 
ponder said:
Did that happen with the Yugoslav wars? Some major atrocities happened there.
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No it did not, however a different war dynamic, not that that justifies the inaction in the least.
The sad irony of that is that Muslims were being killed, not Christians. Read into that what you will.
 
Ive seen a lot of people blaming western leaders for not reacting to whats happening in Nigeria like they did in France. Valid point, but to me, you cant just sit blaming other people. Sometimes you have to take responsibility. If Nigeria was a well governed country this would be less likely to happen. How Come, when people get shot in France the whole country gets up in arms and mass protests fill the streets. But in Nigeria... you dont see the same...

Its kinda hard to expect others to help you when you dont seem that willing to help yourself.
 
CAMEROONIAN TROOPS KILL 143 BOKO HARAM FIGHTERS, GOVERNMENT SAYS

Cameroon's army killed 143 Boko Haram fighters, the state broadcaster reported Tuesday, with the government saying it was the biggest defeat it has inflicted on the Nigerian Islamist group to date.

The insurgents were killed Monday after they attacked a military camp in Kolofata, in the north of Cameroon, CRTV said, citing the government.

The military initially said that 33 Boko Haram fighters had died in the more than five hours of fighting.

Government spokesman Issa Tchiroma Bakary said the battle ended after the army bombed the attackers, forcing them to retreat to the Nigerian border.

Cameroon lost one soldier, he said.

The Central African country has deployed more than 1,000 troops in its Far North region, where Boko Haram members frequently enter from Nigeria to stage attacks.

Boko Haram, which wants to create an Islamist state in Nigeria, killed thousands of people in the country's north last year.


Source : Sapa-dpa /gf
Date : 13 Jan 2015 10:29
 
NIGERIAN OFFICIALS PUTS DEATH TOLL AT 150 FROM BOKO HARAM ATTACKS

The Nigerian government Monday said up to 150 people had been killed by Boko Haram in the country's north last week and dismissed widespread reports that 2,000 people had died.

"Without any doubt, terrible atrocities have been committed against innocent Nigerians in Baga by the rampaging terrorists," the Defence Ministry said in a statement.

But the higher death tolls being reported were the result of "speculations and conjectures ... peddled by a section of the press," the ministry said.

The figure of 150 dead, determined from surveillance and investigation, included many dead terrorists, it said.

Local officials have reported since Thursday that the militant Sunni Islamist group had attacked and razed more than a dozen villages in the region. Thousands of people have fled the region into Chad, according to the United Nations.

Amnesty International has described the attacks as the worst terrorist action in Nigeria.

The Nigerian government has typically been restrained in its comments on the attacks. In the past, it has typically tried to downplay the number of dead from attacks by Boko Haram.

The Nigerian-based group is exercising a reign of terror across northern Nigeria, Chad and Cameroon, and has killed thousands of people in its push to create an Islamist state in Nigeria.

Among the missing are more than 200 girls abducted from a school earlier this year.

On Saturday, a 10-year-old girl detonated herself in a suicide bombing at a north-eastern Nigerian market, killing 20 and injuring 18, a local newspaper reported.

On Monday, Cameroonian troops killed at least 33 Boko Haram militants, an army spokesman said. The insurgents attacked a military base in Kolofata in the north, Didier Badjeck told dpa.


Source : Sapa-dpa /aw
Date : 13 Jan 2015 01:44
 
NIGERIAN ARMY CLAIMS TO HAVE REPELLED BOKO HARAM ATTACK

The Nigerian Army tweeted on Wednesday that it had repelled an attempt by the radical Islamist group Boko Haram to take over the town of Biu in north-eastern Borno state.

The army said it had captured five terrorists, but did not give a casualty rate.

"There was a serious battle around the barracks and we heard gunshots, which died down after a long while," local resident Ibrahim Biu told dpa.

"We later heard the soldiers had successfully driven them back ... even though no one can risk coming out," he added.

The army has sometimes been accused of retreating in the face of Boko Haram attacks.

European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini meanwhile called for more EU involvement in the fight against Boko Haram, which is "becoming daily more extreme and more threatening to the region."

She said the EU "will probably need to be even more committed" in supporting Nigeria and neighbouring countries against the group.

Boko Haram, which wants to create an Islamist state, killed thousands of people in northern Nigeria last year alone.


Source : Sapa-dpa /kd
Date : 14 Jan 2015 20:40
 
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