The Boko Haram Thread

They can provide resources to fight them, especially on the long distance surveillance side. They can monitor and jam radio transmissions , provide satellite data, use counter insurgency tactics especially the spread of misinformation to disorient the enemy. They just need a willing partner on the ground and to work together

You cannot fight an ideology with conventional warfare, it's a loosing battle. You kill a million of the fsckers and 10 million are ready to take their place. The 'west' has got this whole thing so wrong, since 9/11 they have dumped trillions of $$$ into this war on terror. What has happened? Those trillions of $$$ did absolutely fsckall, there are more terrorist activities, members, atrocities etc today than 20yrs ago. 9/11's 3000 odd casualties is a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths after that.

Anybody that thinks this war can be won with guns, tanks, drones etc is a fscking idiot.
 
You cannot fight an ideology with conventional warfare, it's a loosing battle. You kill a million of the fsckers and 10 million are ready to take their place. The 'west' has got this whole thing so wrong, since 9/11 they have dumped trillions of $$$ into this war on terror. What has happened? Those trillions of $$$ did absolutely fsckall, there are more terrorist activities, members, atrocities etc today than 20yrs ago. 9/11's 3000 odd casualties is a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths after that.

Anybody that thinks this war can be won with guns, tanks, drones etc is a fscking idiot.

So... holy water is needed? A little sprinkle here and there, problem solved? I'm just joking...
 
You cannot fight an ideology with conventional warfare, it's a loosing battle. You kill a million of the fsckers and 10 million are ready to take their place. The 'west' has got this whole thing so wrong, since 9/11 they have dumped trillions of $$$ into this war on terror. What has happened? Those trillions of $$$ did absolutely fsckall, there are more terrorist activities, members, atrocities etc today than 20yrs ago. 9/11's 3000 odd casualties is a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths after that.

Anybody that thinks this war can be won with guns, tanks, drones etc is a fscking idiot.

Why does Japan not have a Muslim problem?
 
You cannot fight an ideology with conventional warfare, it's a loosing battle. You kill a million of the fsckers and 10 million are ready to take their place. The 'west' has got this whole thing so wrong, since 9/11 they have dumped trillions of $$$ into this war on terror. What has happened? Those trillions of $$$ did absolutely fsckall, there are more terrorist activities, members, atrocities etc today than 20yrs ago. 9/11's 3000 odd casualties is a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths after that.

Anybody that thinks this war can be won with guns, tanks, drones etc is a fscking idiot.

Yep , and deposing Ghaddafi resulted in a steady flow of arms south through a very porous region straight into the hands of the likes of Boko Haram

And then we find stuff like this :

While President Goodluck Jonathan, who is seeking re-election next month, has condemned the attack on a French satirical magazine in Paris as dastardly, he has not commented on the violence at home, our reporter says.

Government troops abandoned the military base in Baga on Saturday.

It hosts the Multi-National Joint Task Force (MNJTF), made up of troops from Nigeria, Chad and Niger, although only Nigerian soldiers were there at the time of the attack.

Set up in 1998 to fight trans-border crime in the Lake Chad region, the force more recently promised to take on Boko Haram.

Mr Jonathan declared a state of emergency in Borno and two neighbouring states in 2013, vowing to defeat the militants.

However, Boko Haram has stepped up attacks since then and there are fears that many people in the north-east will not be able to vote in the general election because of the conflict.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30728158

Fears about people not being able to vote :wtf:

Thats just screwed up.
 
You cannot fight an ideology with conventional warfare, it's a loosing battle. You kill a million of the fsckers and 10 million are ready to take their place. The 'west' has got this whole thing so wrong, since 9/11 they have dumped trillions of $$$ into this war on terror. What has happened? Those trillions of $$$ did absolutely fsckall, there are more terrorist activities, members, atrocities etc today than 20yrs ago. 9/11's 3000 odd casualties is a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths after that.

Anybody that thinks this war can be won with guns, tanks, drones etc is a fscking idiot.

What is your solution?
 
Article: 2,000 feared killed in Boko Haram's 'deadliest massacre'

Nigeria: 2,000 feared killed in Boko Haram's 'deadliest massacre'

Amnesty International calls the killings ‘a disturbing and bloody escalation’ and a local defence group says its fighters have given up trying to count the bodies

theguardian.com, Friday 9 January 2015 19.05 GMT

baga, nigeria Fighting continued Friday around the town on Baga, near Nigeria’s border with Chad. Photograph: Pius Utomi Ekpei/AFP/Getty Images

Hundreds of bodies – too many to count – remain strewn in the bush in Nigeria from an Islamic extremist attack that Amnesty International described as the “deadliest massacre” in the history of Boko Haram.

Fighting continued on Friday around Baga, a town on the border with Chad where insurgents seized a key military base on 3 January and attacked again on Wednesday.

“Security forces have responded rapidly, and have deployed significant military assets and conducted air strikes against militant targets,” said a government spokesman.

District head Baba Abba Hassan said most victims are children, women and elderly people who could not run fast enough when insurgents drove into Baga, firing rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles on town residents.

“The human carnage perpetrated by Boko Haram terrorists in Baga was enormous,” Muhammad Abba Gava, a spokesman for poorly armed civilians in a defence group that fights Boko Haram, told the Associated Press.

He said the civilian fighters gave up on trying to count all the bodies. “No one could attend to the corpses and even the seriously injured ones who may have died by now,” Gava said.

An Amnesty International statement said there are reports the town was razed and as many as 2,000 people killed.

If true, “this marks a disturbing and bloody escalation of Boko Haram’s ongoing onslaught,” said Daniel Eyre, Nigeria researcher for Amnesty International.

The previous bloodiest day in the uprising involved soldiers gunning down unarmed detainees freed in a 14 March 2014 attack on Giwa military barracks in Maiduguri city. Amnesty said then that satellite imagery indicated more than 600 people were killed that day.

The attacks come five weeks away from presidential elections which are likely to trigger even more bloodshed. Already under a state of emergency, the three north-eastern states worst hit by Boko Haram asked the central government for more troops earlier this week. The government has said voting will take place across Borno state although the worsening insecurity means few international observers are likely to get clearance to oversee voting in an area that is traditionally opposition-supporting.

Around 1.5 million people have been displaced by the violence, many of whom will not be able to vote in the polls under Nigeria’s current electoral laws.

Boko Haram also appears to be regionalising the conflict, after threatening neighbouring Cameroon in a video earlier this week.

The government has made no official comment on the alleged massacres. President Goodluck Jonathan skimmed security issues when he relaunched his re-election bid in front of thousands of cheering supporters in the economic capital, Lagos, on Thursday.

The five-year insurgency killed more than 10,000 people last year alone, according to the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations. More than a million people are displaced inside Nigeria and hundreds of thousands have fled across its borders into Chad, Cameroon and Nigeria.

Emergency workers said this week they are having a hard time coping with scores of children separated from their parents in the chaos of Boko Haram’s increasingly frequent and deadly attacks.

Just seven children have been reunited with parents in Yola, capital of Adamawa state, where about 140 others have no idea if their families are alive or dead, said Sa’ad Bello, the coordinator of five refugee camps in Yola.

He said he was optimistic that more reunions will come as residents return to towns that the military has retaken from extremists in recent weeks.

Suleiman Dauda, 12, said he ran into the bushes with neighbours when extremists attacked his village, Askira Uba, near Yola last year.

“I saw them kill my father, they slaughtered him like a ram. And up until now I don’t know where my mother is,” he told the Associated Press at Daware refugee camp in Yola.




Amnesty: Nigeria massacre deadliest in history of Boko Haram
By IBRAHIM ABDULAZIZ and HARUNA UMAR
Jan. 9, 2015 4:25 PM EST


In this Thursday Nov. 27, 2014 photo, children displaced after attacks by Boko Haram, play in the camp of internal displaced people, in Yola, Nigeria. Seven children have been reunited with parents lost in the chaos of attacks in Nigeria's northeastern Islamic insurgency but hundreds more remain alone, officials say of youngsters who have no idea if their families are alive or dead. (AP Photo/Sunday Alamba)

YOLA, Nigeria (AP) — Hundreds of bodies — too many to count — remain strewn in the bush in Nigeria from an Islamic extremist attack that Amnesty International suggested Friday is the "deadliest massacre" in the history of Boko Haram.

Mike Omeri, the government spokesman on the insurgency, said fighting continued Friday for Baga, a town on the border with Chad where insurgents seized a key military base on Jan. 3 and attacked again on Wednesday.

"Security forces have responded rapidly, and have deployed significant military assets and conducted airstrikes against militant targets," Omeri said in a statement.

District head Baba Abba Hassan said most victims are children, women and elderly people who could not run fast enough when insurgents drove into Baga, firing rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles on town residents.

"The human carnage perpetrated by Boko Haram terrorists in Baga was enormous," Muhammad Abba Gava, a spokesman for poorly armed civilians in a defense group that fights Boko Haram, told The Associated Press.

He said the civilian fighters gave up on trying to count all the bodies. "No one could attend to the corpses and even the seriously injured ones who may have died by now," Gava said.

An Amnesty International statement said there are reports the town was razed and as many as 2,000 people killed.

If true, "this marks a disturbing and bloody escalation of Boko Haram's ongoing onslaught," said Daniel Eyre, Nigeria researcher for Amnesty International.

The previous bloodiest day in the uprising involved soldiers gunning down unarmed detainees freed in a March 14, 2014, attack on Giwa military barracks in Maiduguri city. Amnesty said then that satellite imagery indicated more than 600 people were killed that day.

The 5-year insurgency killed more than 10,000 people last year alone, according to the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations. More than a million people are displaced inside Nigeria and hundreds of thousands have fled across its borders into Chad, Cameroon and Nigeria.

Emergency workers said this week they are having a hard time coping with scores of children separated from their parents in the chaos of Boko Haram's increasingly frequent and deadly attacks.

Just seven children have been reunited with parents in Yola, capital of Adamawa state, where about 140 others have no idea if their families are alive or dead, said Sa'ad Bello, the coordinator of five refugee camps in Yola.

He said he was optimistic that more reunions will come as residents return to towns that the military has retaken from extremists in recent weeks.

Suleiman Dauda, 12, said he ran into the bushes with neighbors when extremists attacked his village, Askira Uba, near Yola last year.

"I saw them kill my father, they slaughtered him like a ram. And up until now I don't know where my mother is," he told The Associated Press at Daware refugee camp in Yola.

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Umar reported from Bauchi, Nigeria. Associated Press writer Michelle Faul contributed to this story from Johannesburg.
 
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Suicide bombing by '10-year-old girl in Nigeria kills at least 10'

At least 10 people were killed when a young girl, thought to be aged 10, blew herself up at a crowded market in the northeast Nigerian city of Maiduguri, the Red Cross and vigilantes said.The powerful explosion rocked the city's market at about 12.40pm (11.40am GMT) when it was packed with shoppers and traders on Saturday. The same market was hit twice by female suicide bombers late last year.There was no immediate claim of responsibility but Boko Haram militants have increasingly used women and young girls as human bombs in their six-year quest for a hardline Islamic state.Civilian vigilante Ashiru Mustapha said the explosives detonated as the girl was being searched at the entrance to the market."The girl was about 10 years old and I doubt much if she actually knew what was strapped to her body," he told AFP.

"In fact, she was searched at the entrance of the market and the metal detector indicated that she was carrying something."But sadly, the explosion went off before she was isolated, killing at least 10 people and injuring many others."According to police, the figure for those dead is 20 and 18 injured in Nigeria market blast.Borno State police spokesman Gideon Jubrin told reporters: "Casualty figure: 20 dead and 18 injured, including the female suicide bomber that detonated the improvised explosive device."The market was cordoned off as health officials began the task of sifting through the wreckage and collecting body parts.A Red Cross official who declined to give his name said: "We have so far evacuated 10 bodies to the mortuary at the (Borno) State Specialist Hospital.""Many people sustained life-threatening injuries," he added.Abubakar Bakura, a witness, said: "The blast split the suicide bomber into two and flung one part across the road."Among the dead are two vigilantes who were searching the girl. I am pretty sure the bomb was remotely controlled."An attack at the market on December 1 killed more than 10 people, and the previous week more than 45 people lost their lives in an attack there.Boko Haram launched its first female suicide attack in June last year in the northern state of Gombe and there have been a spate of bombings since, including four in a week in the city of Kano.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ar-old-girl-in-Nigeria-kills-at-least-10.html

The barbarity some people of capable of is just staggering.
 
Boko Haram is now a mini-Islamic State, with its own territory

Astonishing how much territory BH control.

After days of razing villages and pitiless massacre, Boko Haram finished the week with its most chilling atrocity.

As people bustled through the Saturday market in the Nigerian city of Maiduguri, a device borne by a ten year-old girl exploded near the entrance.

A witness said the girl probably had no idea that a bomb had been strapped to her body.

The explosion just before lunch killed 20, including the girl, and injured 18, according to the police.

Boko Haram did not immediately claim the attack, but the Islamic insurgents have increasingly used young girls as human bombs as they carve an African “Caliphate” from the plains of northern Nigeria.

Today, Boko Haram controls about 20,000 square miles of territory - an area the size of Belgium.

Within this domain, the black flag of jihad flies over scores of towns and villages scattered across the neighbouring states of Borno and Yobe.

The latest conquest was the fishing town of Baga on the shores of Lake Chad, which fell to the Islamists last Wednesday.

“For five kilometres (three miles), I kept stepping on dead bodies until I reached Malam Karanti village, which was also deserted and burnt,” one surviving fisherman, Yanaye Grema, said.

Boko Haram’s fighters have now achieved mastery over 11 local government areas with a total population exceeding 1.7 million people, according to the official 2006 census.

Once, the movement’s fighters would launch hit-and-run attacks on defenceless villages. Now, Boko Haram’s realm stretches from the Mandara Mountains on the eastern border with Cameroon to Lake Chad in the north and the Yedseram river in the west.

The Nigerian army, crippled by corruption and incompetence, has shown itself unable to resist the jihadist advance.

Last September, Abubakar Shekau, the self-styled “Emir” of Boko Haram, proclaimed his ambition to conquer a “Caliphate” and follow the example of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ini-Islamic-State-with-its-own-territory.html

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UN CONDEMNS SURGE IN NIGERIA KILLINGS

U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon has condemned recent attacks by Islamic militants that killed hundreds of people in Nigeria, which holds elections next month even though Boko Haram extremists hold large swaths of territory in the northeast of Africa's most populous country.

Ban's office said in a statement Sunday that the secretary-general was appalled by reports that hundreds of civilians were slaughtered in an assault around Baga town in Borno state, near Nigeria's border with Chad. Some reports say the death toll is as high as 2,000.

Additionally, Ban's office cites reports that extremists used a 10-year-old girl as a suicide bomber Saturday to kill 19 people at a market in Maiduguri, also in Borno state.


Source : Sapa-AP /mm
Date : 12 Jan 2015 10:46
 
You cannot fight an ideology with conventional warfare, it's a loosing battle. You kill a million of the fsckers and 10 million are ready to take their place. The 'west' has got this whole thing so wrong, since 9/11 they have dumped trillions of $$$ into this war on terror. What has happened? Those trillions of $$$ did absolutely fsckall, there are more terrorist activities, members, atrocities etc today than 20yrs ago. 9/11's 3000 odd casualties is a drop in the bucket compared to all the deaths after that.

Anybody that thinks this war can be won with guns, tanks, drones etc is a fscking idiot.

Islam has to deal with its fanatics, the midway has to hold sway...but the change can only come from within their ranks, how ....I have no idea. Painting each muslim with the same brush is not helping anyone.
 
And inevitably if western countries become involved, they get accused of neocolonialism or meddling in african affairs.

So Damned if they do and damned if they dont.
Pretty much spot on!

Well this is horrendous to say the least.

A few questions though:

What are African leaders doing about this? Precious little it seems.

As someone put it earlier in this thread, they don't like the US but wouldn't mind their help now, Why?

Why not ask Africa's biggest pals, you know China or the rest of BRICS for that matter that our government always sides with on these types of issues? Why should the West wade in considering the vitriol they are constantly subjected to from Africa? It will be a no win scenario for them, no matter what they do.
What happened to African solutions to African problems?

I personally hope they (the West as such) takes some action, but doubt it will ever happen.
 
Islam has to deal with its fanatics, the midway has to hold sway...but the change can only come from within their ranks, how ....I have no idea. Painting each muslim with the same brush is not helping anyone.

In the current environment that change is highly unlikely, i fear that the only way it will occur will be due to an "event" so heinous, so barbaric and so vile that the world will retaliate against the Religion as a whole so violently that the moderates will be left with only 2 choices - police your own and hand them over or be eliminated.
 
And inevitably if western countries become involved, they get accused of neocolonialism or meddling in african affairs.

So Damned if they do and damned if they dont.

They tend to only get involved where there are vested interests that need to be protected....and those interests take precedence over actually resolving the problem

In this case I don't think anyone will protest more involvement by the western countries as the government itself is either unwilling or unable to do anything in this case
 
Why not ask Africa's biggest pals, you know China or the rest of BRICS for that matter

China Russia and India all have their own fundamentalists to deal with, and if China or Russia set any troops on the ground in Africa, they would immediatley be accused of "expansionism" by the West and that would open another can of worms.

This is an African issue, but the AU is a toothless crone that can only suck eggs, and is incapable of chewing on anything solid.
 
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