The Brexit Thread

C4Cat

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Bit late for that, isn’t it?
Brexit is happening. It’s just what sort of deal the UK gets that’s still undecided.
Yeah it's wishful thinking to think otherwise. It's done.
As far as I understand it, technically, the Article 50 notification can be withdrawn by the UK at any time before 29 March 2019 resulting in the UK remaining in the EU as is. Practically it might be too late though.
 

Tander

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As far as I understand it, technically, the Article 50 notification can be withdrawn by the UK at any time before 29 March 2019 resulting in the UK remaining in the EU as is. Practically it might be too late though.
Yeah, I understand it the same way. The likelihood of the government withdrawing now seems highly unlikely.
 

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Yeah it's wishful thinking to think otherwise. It's done.
It’ll be focussing the minds of those MP’s though, any idiot MP backing the no deal exit is unlikely to be looked upon favourably by their constituents in those constituencies.
 

Tander

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So, is May's plan going to go through? Or is a no deal more likely?
 

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It’ll be focussing the minds of those MP’s though, any idiot MP backing the no deal exit is unlikely to be looked upon favourably by their constituents in those constituencies.
I'd be very curious to know what percentage of the electorate actually understands the implications of a no deal exit, and whether or not it actually sways their vote.
 

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I'd be very curious to know what percentage of the electorate actually understands the implications of a no deal exit, and whether or not it actually sways their vote.
A large enough proportion of the electorate were gullible enough to believe all the lies of the Vote.Leave campaign, so there’s likely a sizeable chunk too dumb to understand it at all.
 

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As far as I understand it, technically, the Article 50 notification can be withdrawn by the UK at any time before 29 March 2019 resulting in the UK remaining in the EU as is. Practically it might be too late though.
Won't happen as it goes against the people's wishes.

Not matter how much the left cries and jumps up and down. They lost the vote, there will be hell to pay should they go against the vote which voted - Leave.
 

JayM

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Won't happen as it goes against the people's wishes.

Not matter how much the left cries and jumps up and down. They lost the vote, there will be hell to pay should they go against the vote which voted - Leave.
The loony left loves Brexit just as much as the right. How many times does this need to be said?

The only way they will get a deal (or no deal) through parliament is through another public vote. Not a yes/no, but rather a "deal as offered, or leave with no deal". Brexiteers should have no issue with this whatsoever.
 

NarrowBandFtw

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another public vote. Not a yes/no, but rather a "deal as offered, or leave with no deal". Brexiteers should have no issue with this whatsoever.
Why should anyone take no issue with such a blatant double standard? There was no deal insight or approval when Britain voted to join the EEC, then those who were unhappy with the fallout had to wait 4 decades to have another vote on the topic, now without even implementing the exit that won the vote, another vote must effectively determine the same question yet again a mere 2 years later?!?

Sure, those who are confident that their position represents the majority vote should not worry about a re-vote (let's call it what it is / would be), but anyone who has any appreciation for fairness and applying the same standard to such hugely important decisions should be absolutely appalled at a thinly veiled attempt to negate the will of the people.
 

JayM

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Why should anyone take no issue with such a blatant double standard? There was no deal insight or approval when Britain voted to join the EEC, then those who were unhappy with the fallout had to wait 4 decades to have another vote on the topic, now without even implementing the exit that won the vote, another vote must effectively determine the same question yet again a mere 2 years later?!?

Sure, those who are confident that their position represents the majority vote should not worry about a re-vote (let's call it what it is / would be), but anyone who has any appreciation for fairness and applying the same standard to such hugely important decisions should be absolutely appalled at a thinly veiled attempt to negate the will of the people.
There will be no "remain" option on this referendum. It will be a choice between the negotiated deal or leaving with no deal. The original referendum, being a simple yes/no one, did not answer the question as to what type of Brexit the public actually wants. Answering this question in no way goes against the result of the previous referendum.
 

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Why should anyone take no issue with such a blatant double standard? There was no deal insight or approval when Britain voted to join the EEC, then those who were unhappy with the fallout had to wait 4 decades to have another vote on the topic, now without even implementing the exit that won the vote, another vote must effectively determine the same question yet again a mere 2 years later?!
Was there any significant opposition to joining the EEC at the time...?
 

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There will be no "remain" option on this referendum. It will be a choice between the negotiated deal
The negotiated deal, as confirmed by the Brexit Secretary himself when he resigned, is a remain option in all but name.

Doesn't take a genius to figure out that a "deal" that leaves all the current status quo in place is the same as remaining.
 
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