The Brexit Thread

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Oh so Leave lied and the Remoaners told the truth. Remoaners warned that this would happen.

Yeah, the best thing about Brexit is how pragmatic realism had smashed the Leave Campaigns rainbow fantasies.

Here is the leave campaign promises -

What? It's clear most Brexiteers want to diverge, it's clearly absurd for the EU to insist on a "level playing field" (aka "follow all EU regulations which the UK does not have a say in") when the UK is out of the EU! Literally one of the big reasons to vote to leave is to diverge. Like, duh. I know TMay's deal insisted on a level playing field (but she was a Remoaner so what do you expect?) but thankfully Boris is now the PM and insisting on something quite different.

 

[C4Cat]

Farage's job was to get Brexit done. The UK got their money's worth. He did an excellent job. Quality workmanship and enjoyable to boot. He even threw in some salt mining for free. Will recommend .

I wouldn't say an excellent job, they missed the deadline, took longer to do, cost more than expected and still nobody knows what sort of deal they're getting. Wouldn't recommend

 

[buka001]

What? It's clear most Brexiteers want to diverge, it's clearly absurd for the EU to insist on a "level playing field" (aka "follow all EU regulations which the UK does not have a say in") when the UK is out of the EU! Literally one of the big reasons to vote to leave is to diverge. Like, duh. I know TMay's deal insisted on a level playing field (but she was a Remoaner so what do you expect?) but thankfully Boris is now the PM and insisting on something quite different.

What is clear is that Brexiters did not want to diverge during their campaigns leading up to the referendum.

Now they are just shifting the goalposts to align with their BS.

Why is it absurd to insist on matters to protect the interests of the members of the Union.

The reasons are clear and justified.

The reality is the EU have the advantage in the negotiations.

 

[AlmightyBender]

What? It's clear most Brexiteers want to diverge, it's clearly absurd for the EU to insist on a "level playing field" (aka "follow all EU regulations which the UK does not have a say in") when the UK is out of the EU! Literally one of the big reasons to vote to leave is to diverge. Like, duh. I know TMay's deal insisted on a level playing field (but she was a Remoaner so what do you expect?) but thankfully Boris is now the PM and insisting on something quite different.

Dude, you do realize that that is exactly how anyone trading with the EU that is not in the EU is treated? I.e. here are the rules you follow, else p!ss off.

How do they achieve such a strong position? Collective bargaining power from being in a.... union.

That you keep thinking that they are now on a level playing field is sad. Same with USA vs UK. The US is in much stronger position to dictate terms due to the size of their economy.

But wishing you all the best in the negotiations!

 

[BandwidthAddict]

I wouldn't say an excellent job, they missed the deadline, took longer to do, cost more than expected and still nobody knows what sort of deal they're getting. Wouldn't recommend

And the salt keeps on flowing. Nom nom nom.

 

[MidnightWizard]

I see Johnson's boss Cummings is now dictating who can attend a briefing and who can't? Absolutely disgraceful behaviour and Johnson seems content to go along with it. No wonder he is compared to Trump, but at least Trump has the back bone to do it himself and not hide behind that scruffy little cnut.

And I thought Corbyn was the communist?

Journalists walk out of No 10 after bid to impose selective briefing of Boris Johnson's Brexit plans

Labour accuses prime minister of adopting Trump-style tactics

www.independent.co.uk

Winston Churchill ALSO had a "Cummings"

Brendan Rendall Bracken

Churchill's closest confidant was a secretive self-hating Irish immigrant

So too did Woodrow Wilson

Colonel House and Woodrow Wilson: Paving the Way for War

Colonel House: A Biography of Woodrow Wilson’s Silent Partner

ALL these people in top positions of power have "MINDERS"

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1225313234573570048

#BackTheBrits. Support UK fishing!

 

[Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1225313234573570048

#BackTheBrits. Support UK fishing!

Without googling, can you tell me what percentage of the UK economy does fishing constitute?

 

[Dave]

@Chris_the_Brit

After all your anger and bile about MPs like Philip Hammond and Ken Clarke look what BoJo is doing with them .

Boris Johnson nominates Brexit critics Hammond and Clarke for peerages

Ex-chancellors sacked by the PM for opposing a no-deal Brexit are set for the Lords, the BBC learns.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[rietrot]

Without googling, can you tell me what percentage of the UK economy does fishing constitute?

Irrelevant. A country needs to control its own waters and natural resources.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Dude, you do realize that that is exactly how anyone trading with the EU that is not in the EU is treated? I.e. here are the rules you follow, else p!ss off.

How do they achieve such a strong position? Collective bargaining power from being in a.... union.

That you keep thinking that they are now on a level playing field is sad. Same with USA vs UK. The US is in much stronger position to dictate terms due to the size of their economy.

But wishing you all the best in the negotiations!

Chris is still stuck in the delusion that the UK is an empire that will be able to dictate to the world how things go.

Remarkable how much of Brexiteer bluster is based on this delusion.

(Mis)Rule Britannia: Brexit is the last gasp of empire

Brexit represents the last gasp of the British empire, argue Sally Tomlinson (Goldsmiths, University of London) and Danny Dorling (University of Oxford). The men who have led it cannot accept that …

blogs.lse.ac.uk

 

[Pitbull]

Irrelevant. A country needs to control its own waters and natural resources.

Also creates an opportunity for the UK to go hard into fishing, within their own waters.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Chris is still stuck in the delusion that the UK is an empire that will be able to dictate to the world how things go.

Remarkable how much of Brexiteer bluster is based on this delusion.

(Mis)Rule Britannia: Brexit is the last gasp of empire

Brexit represents the last gasp of the British empire, argue Sally Tomlinson (Goldsmiths, University of London) and Danny Dorling (University of Oxford). The men who have led it cannot accept that …

blogs.lse.ac.uk

Weird...despite Remoaners' obsession about Brexiteers being nostalgic for the Empire (most people who voted in the EU referendum were either born in the dying days of the Empire or when there was no empire), it's the EU that constantly talks about the empire (https://unherd.com/2019/05/will-the-eu-become-an-empire/ , https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2019...-is-a-liberal-empire-and-it-is-about-to-fall/ , https://uk.ambafrance.org/Europe-must-become-a-peaceful-empire-says-Minister)

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The Department of International Trade is opening a consultation for 'free ports':

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1226778326917885958

FYI: What’s a free port, and does the EU have them?

Typically, when goods enter a country, they have to follow the import regulations of that country. This often involves a tariff—a tax on those imports.

A free port or “free zone” is an area that is inside the geographic boundary of a country, but which is legally considered outside the country for customs purposes. Goods brought into the free port don’t face import tariffs (though if they are then sent into the rest of the country for sale, they are then taxed accordingly).

Sometimes businesses operating within free ports receive other incentives, such as tax breaks. For example the Canary Islands Free Zone has a corporate tax rate of 4% compared to 25% in the rest of Spain.

There are various economic benefits to free ports outlined in a paper authored by Mr Sunak in 2016. Conversely there have been criticisms of free ports that they can be used by organisations to launder money and avoid tax.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1226838102414708737

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Scottish salmon producers warn of 'huge' Brexit burden

The industry says the UK government has told it to prepare for trade barriers with the European Union.

www.bbc.com

 

[Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1226838102414708737

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You're laughing at a blank page...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Fox lobbied Bahraini royals for oil contract with Tory donor's firm

Liam Fox intervened to promote a $5bn deal with Petrofac, under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office

www.theguardian.com

A Conservative minister personally lobbied the Bahraini royal family to give a multi-billion dollar oil contract to a company under investigation for suspected bribery and money laundering.

The intervention from Liam Fox, who was international trade secretary at the time, was one of several attempts by senior Conservatives to help Petrofac, which is headed by a major Tory party donor, to secure the $5bn contract.

 

[buka001]

The Department of International Trade is opening a consultation for 'free ports':

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1226778326917885958

FYI: What’s a free port, and does the EU have them?

Tories had these in 2012 got rid of them, because they failed. Will the magic Brexit unicorns make it work this time?

 

[buka001]

Categorical, definitive proof that the so called fear campaign from Remainers was accurate and called it, as it would be.

Proof that the leave campaign was built up of lies and fairy tales.

Good bye frictionless trade, hello regulatory checks, additional paperwork and and and.

I thought Brexit was meant to break free from the EU beauracrecy? Seems like it was all about making it more beauracratic, adding additional trade barriers, reducing free market capitalism. For what?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1226898157218471937