The Brexit Thread

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London Mayor Kahn is demanding a thorough investigation and economic analysis of the potential effects of the various iterations of whatever outcome is possible from the Brexit negotiations
He's just a mayor, his delusions of grandeur are bound to come crashing down when parliament reminds him of the fact that he is JUST a mayor.
 

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He's just a mayor, his delusions of grandeur are bound to come crashing down when parliament reminds him of the fact that he is JUST a mayor.
The mayor of the economic hub of the country.

His concerns are well placed as the government have displayed no level of confidence in these negotiations.
 

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He's just a mayor, his delusions of grandeur are bound to come crashing down when parliament reminds him of the fact that he is JUST a mayor.
What is bad about being pro active and doing an impact assessment on your town (which is most likely taking the biggest hit of all)?

It’s actually very sound.
 

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The mayor of the economic hub of the country.
His concerns are well placed as the government have displayed no level of confidence in these negotiations.
The mayor of Johannesburg doesn't get to demand a damn thing from parliament, that's our economic hub of course.

It's exactly the same in the UK, Kahn might have friends in high places and might somehow be able to whisper in the right ears to get something done, but he has absolutely f-all authority to make the demand he is making. Simple as that.
 

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What is bad about being pro active
Nothing wrong about being proactive, much wrong about not knowing your place.

He solicited a private analysis that fits his agenda and made it public to further his agenda, that has all the signs of someone just playing for political points. F-him and the horse he rode in on, he's actually obstructing whatever abysmal progress negotiators are making.
 

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Where do you see a single demand from parliament in the quote from buka?

I don’t and from the elements here, he doesn’t.
 

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Where do you see a single demand from parliament in the quote from buka?
I don’t and from the elements here, he doesn’t.
Hence the need to google, that post was given without source and left too much to assumptions.

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/11/no-deal-disaster-government-truth-brexit-sadiq-khan
I am calling on the government to commission and then publish – in full – their analysis of every single option available for Britain to avoid a “cliff-edge” scenario. That means their analysis should look at what we should do if we are unable to secure a good deal from the negotiations, if the negotiations collapse, or if the final deal fails to be ratified by either the British parliament, European parliament, or a number of EU member states.

This must include all options for extending the article 50 timeline. It must include all options for an extended interim deal – beyond the two-year period currently on the table. And it must include legal analysis of the options available for withdrawing article 50 altogether in the worst-case scenario of the UK crashing out of the EU with no deal. There are differing opinions on whether this is possible – Lord Kerr, the author of article 50, says it is. The government must tell us what they think and what our options truly are.
That is what was apparently paraphrased into:
London Mayor Kahn is demanding a thorough investigation and economic analysis
Now whether he is "calling on" or "demanding from" he is doing it to parliament, where he holds zero authority. So he's going public instead like a little bitch.
 
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Hence the need to google, that post was given without source and left too much to assumptions.

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/11/no-deal-disaster-government-truth-brexit-sadiq-khan


That is what was apparently paraphrased into:


Now whether he is "calling on" or "demanding from" he is doing to to parliament, where he holds zero authority. So he's going public instead like a little bitch.
Seems like what I said was a sound summary.

I heard it on the radio.
 

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Hence the need to google, that post was given without source and left too much to assumptions.

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/11/no-deal-disaster-government-truth-brexit-sadiq-khan


That is what was apparently paraphrased into:


Now whether he is "calling on" or "demanding from" he is doing it to parliament, where he holds zero authority. So he's going public instead like a little bitch.
He can start a petition.

I think if he gets more than a certain amount of signatures, it has to be taken into account (that’s an EU rule actually).
 

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Hence the need to google, that post was given without source and left too much to assumptions.

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/11/no-deal-disaster-government-truth-brexit-sadiq-khan


That is what was apparently paraphrased into:


Now whether he is "calling on" or "demanding from" he is doing it to parliament, where he holds zero authority. So he's going public instead like a little bitch.
It's irrelevant whether he has the 'authority' to make the demand - he has made his call, hasn't he, so his right to make it or not is irrelevant. As far as I'm concerned every citizen has both the right, the authority and the duty to make demands from the government and parliament.
 

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Ukip leader Bolton suffers further blow after girlfriend furore



The leader of the UK Independence party has suffered a further blow to his credibility, after admitting that he will have to sell his flat to settle outstanding service charges.

Henry Bolton is already facing calls to resign over an affair with a 25-year-old model who made racist comments. His financial position has been questioned since he was elected leader of the anti-EU party last September. The role of leader is unpaid, and Mr Bolton has no other salary.

A person familiar with Mr Bolton’s property in Folkestone, Kent, said that the Ukip leader had refused to pay approximately £28,000 service charges for more than a year. “Everyone in the building knows it,” the person said.


Ukip said Mr Bolton would now sell the flat and use some of the proceeds to “pay the outstanding charge”. “He is in communication with the management agent on this matter,” the spokesman said.

On Monday Mr Bolton also announced he had ended the “romantic element” of his relationship with Jo Marney, a model and Ukip member, who made offensive comments about Meghan Markle, Prince Harry’s fiancée.

But the move did not satisfy some of his critics within Ukip: Bill Etheridge, an MEP, resigned as the party’s sports spokesman, and reiterated his call for Mr Bolton to resign.

Mr Bolton’s difficulties are the latest to afflict Ukip, which has struggled for coherence since the Brexit vote. The party has had two leadership elections within the past 18 months. Its former leader, Nigel Farage, contradicted the party’s line on Brexit last week, saying that a second referendum might be necessary.

Mr Bolton, who has never been elected to public office, remained little known until news of his affair broke. He has claimed that his enemies within Ukip are using his affair to undermine his leadership. Some Ukip members have complained they were unaware about Mr Bolton’s past as a member of the Liberal Democrats, before his election in September.

Mr Bolton has previously worked as a security consultant. When elected in September, he said there were “various ways that I will have to look at my income”.

Internal divisions, visible under Mr Farage’s leadership, have deepened since his resignation in July 2016. Diane James, an MEP elected leader, resigned after just 18 days in post, blaming internal opposition. Paul Nuttall, her successor, quit after the 2017 general election, and has been heavily criticised for focusing the party on the question of Islamic integration.

Mr Bolton’s election was greeted with relief by many senior figures, including Mr Farage, who feared the party would face extinction if a rival candidate, the anti-Islam campaigner Anne Marie Waters, won.
 

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Brilliant people...

Ukip leader Bolton suffers further blow after girlfriend furore



The leader of the UK Independence party has suffered a further blow to his credibility, after admitting that he will have to sell his flat to settle outstanding service charges.

Henry Bolton is already facing calls to resign over an affair with a 25-year-old model who made racist comments. His financial position has been questioned since he was elected leader of the anti-EU party last September. The role of leader is unpaid, and Mr Bolton has no other salary.

A person familiar with Mr Bolton’s property in Folkestone, Kent, said that the Ukip leader had refused to pay approximately £28,000 service charges for more than a year. “Everyone in the building knows it,” the person said.


Ukip said Mr Bolton would now sell the flat and use some of the proceeds to “pay the outstanding charge”. “He is in communication with the management agent on this matter,” the spokesman said.

On Monday Mr Bolton also announced he had ended the “romantic element” of his relationship with Jo Marney, a model and Ukip member, who made offensive comments about Meghan Markle, Prince Harry’s fiancée.

But the move did not satisfy some of his critics within Ukip: Bill Etheridge, an MEP, resigned as the party’s sports spokesman, and reiterated his call for Mr Bolton to resign.

Mr Bolton’s difficulties are the latest to afflict Ukip, which has struggled for coherence since the Brexit vote. The party has had two leadership elections within the past 18 months. Its former leader, Nigel Farage, contradicted the party’s line on Brexit last week, saying that a second referendum might be necessary.

Mr Bolton, who has never been elected to public office, remained little known until news of his affair broke. He has claimed that his enemies within Ukip are using his affair to undermine his leadership. Some Ukip members have complained they were unaware about Mr Bolton’s past as a member of the Liberal Democrats, before his election in September.

Mr Bolton has previously worked as a security consultant. When elected in September, he said there were “various ways that I will have to look at my income”.

Internal divisions, visible under Mr Farage’s leadership, have deepened since his resignation in July 2016. Diane James, an MEP elected leader, resigned after just 18 days in post, blaming internal opposition. Paul Nuttall, her successor, quit after the 2017 general election, and has been heavily criticised for focusing the party on the question of Islamic integration.

Mr Bolton’s election was greeted with relief by many senior figures, including Mr Farage, who feared the party would face extinction if a rival candidate, the anti-Islam campaigner Anne Marie Waters, won.
 

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Finally a country ready to help UK going through Brexit.

In a further sign of a desire to break with the Mugabe era, Mr Mnangagwa signalled that Britain and he were keen for Zimbabwe to rejoin the Commonwealth, 16 years after its suspension over human rights abuses.

“When we have engagement, they [Britain] want to raise the issue about us joining the Commonwealth. I said I’ll be happy to deal with that . . . I personally have nothing against the Commonwealth club.”

He added that Brexit is “a good thing because they will need us. And we will make sure we become very close to them. So that what they’ve lost with Brexit they can come and recover from Zimbabwe.”


https://www.ft.com/content/05ad2492-fc38-11e7-9b32-d7d59aace167
 
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