The Brexit Thread

[Cray]

While we're at it: better reduce the maximum allowable presidential term to 6 months as well. People might've changed their minds.

That's what a vote of no confidence is for ...

 

[Dave]

It’s only speculations, he does it for his country and not for his personal interests.

Or so will say Brexiters.

But then a lot of them are as thick as two short planks or will claim it’s just “project fear” or something similar.

I’ve noticed that a lot of Rees Mogg supporters are actually EDL/BNP/radical UKIP supporters anyway...

I can imagine a few of them liking to get dressed up like this

Man who defended Jacob Rees-Mogg at university scuffle ‘dressed up in a Nazi SS uniform’

A MAN who stepped in to defend Jacob Rees-Mogg when he was mobbed during a university event last week once dressed up in a Nazi uniform, it has been revealed.

Paul Townsley, a 55-year-old martial arts instructor, was attending the debate at the University of the West of England last Friday when it was taken over by left-wing activists who started shouting anti-fascist slogans.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/55121...sity-scuffle-dressed-up-in-a-nazi-ss-uniform/

I wonder what @Chris_the_Brit (who should probably be called Chris_the_Aussie) makes of dressing up in that uniform?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

That's what a vote of no confidence is for ...

If you think the UK parliament is about to do that in the name of stopping brexit you are deluded.

A timeline for deluded bremoaners all over the globe: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15390884

People have been calling for a brexit decision since 1974, read it and weep for democracy, it has taken 43 years to have that referendum.

Now fair is fair of course, if you want another referendum: wait until the year 2060. Soros will most likely still be around, powered by the blood of human infants no doubt.

 

[Alan]

I wonder what @Chris_the_Brit (who isn’t really a Brit, but an Aussie) makes of dressing up in that uniform?

Probably the same thing he thought when Prince Harry dressed in a nazi uniform.

 

[C4Cat]

Democracy is not the act of re-voting until you get the result you wanted. There was a referendum, it has an outcome, end of story.

Voting for something based on lies, false promises and pretensions is not democracy. A referendum is also just that - a referendum. It's not binding in the same way that elections are. Anyway what's the issue - if Britons still want out they'll vote leave again and that will be the end of it. At least now it would be a vote based on having all the information and thus understanding the actual consequences of their choice.

 

[Cray]

If you think the UK parliament is about to do that in the name of stopping brexit you are deluded..

I don't, you made a comment that people always have to wait until the next election to change government, never mind that snap general elections do get called but there are also other ways of changing government if public support is lacking. Same as with Brexxit- ff it was overwhelmingly supported by the public then these conversations wouldn't be happening. That and the fact that it is not something that can be easily reversed means that at the very least, the majority of the public should still want to go ahead with it.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Voting for something based on lies, false promises and pretensions is not democracy

Jesus that describes every election held in the history of mankind. Wait your turn until 2060 for another referendum then, fair is fair.

 

[Alan]

if Britons still want out they'll vote leave again and that will be the end of it. .

Tell another one :crylaugh:

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

I don't, you made a comment that people always have to wait until the next election to change government, never mind that snap general elections do get called but there are also other ways of changing government if public support is lacking. Same as with Brexxit- ff it was overwhelmingly supported by the public then these conversations wouldn't be happening. That and the fact that it is not something that can be easily reversed means that at the very least, the majority of the public should still want to go ahead with it.

Name me a single instance, EVER, where any country other than a banana republic changed their government less than 2 years after electing them?

 

[Cray]

Name me a single instance, EVER, where any country other than a banana republic changed their government less than 2 years after electing them?

Would Italy be cheating?

Edit: I give you Portugal...12 days

http://www.esquerda.net/node/39675

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Would Italy be cheating?
Edit: I give you Portugal...12 days
http://www.esquerda.net/node/39675

Touche, you get my point regardless. Didn't know Portugal's system is set up in a way where the parliament must actually accept a "government plan" or effectively disband. That is of course not how it works in the UK, or most democracies.

 

[Xarog]

I don't, you made a comment that people always have to wait until the next election to change government, never mind that snap general elections do get called but there are also other ways of changing government if public support is lacking. Same as with Brexxit- ff it was overwhelmingly supported by the public then these conversations wouldn't be happening. That and the fact that it is not something that can be easily reversed means that at the very least, the majority of the public should still want to go ahead with it.

You know nothing, Jon Snow.

 

[Dave]

Probably the same thing he thought when Prince Harry dressed in a nazi uniform.

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Well, using Chris as the example, it’s been said photos of the royal family end up quite sticky when in his possession...

 

[Cray]

Touche, you get my point regardless. Didn't know Portugal's system is set up in a way where the parliament must actually accept a "government plan" or effectively disband. That is of course not how it works in the UK, or most democracies.

True enough , just that if public sentiment is strong enough, that governments don't necessarily have to always last 4 years - but yes, I get your point.

 

[Alan]

Jesus that describes every election held in the history of mankind. Wait your turn until 2060 for another referendum then, fair is fair.

C4Cat inadvertently reveals his typically leftist authoritarianism. Anything right of regressive qualifies as being based on "lies, false promises and pretensions" in their minds and hence not legitimate in their warped idea of democracy.

 

[Xarog]

C4Cat inadvertently reveals his typically leftist authoritarianism. Anything right of regressive qualifies as being based on "lies, false promises and pretensions" in their minds and hence not legitimate in their warped idea of democracy.

What a horrible way to describe liberating tolerance. Shame on you, Alan!

 

[The_Assimilator]

C4Cat inadvertently reveals his typically leftist authoritarianism. Anything right of regressive qualifies as being based on "lies, false promises and pretensions" in their minds and hence not legitimate in their warped idea of democracy.

A "democracy" cannot survive on lies, false promises and pretensions. Your attempt to defend the indefensible, simply because it matches your ideology, shows who the real authoritarian is.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

A "democracy" cannot survive on lies, false promises and pretensions

If this is true then democracy has never existed.

 

[C4Cat]

Tell another one :crylaugh:

It's relatively easy to justify having a second referendum given that false promises were made, and lies were told, by the leave side - which they've admitted to - and given the closeness of the final result. It would be impossible to justify a third referendum so yes, I think it would settle the matter once and for all

 

[C4Cat]

C4Cat inadvertently reveals his typically leftist authoritarianism. Anything right of regressive qualifies as being based on "lies, false promises and pretensions" in their minds and hence not legitimate in their warped idea of democracy.

:erm: erm no, actually lying and making false promises qualifies as being based on "lies, false promises and pretensions".