The Brexit Thread

NarrowBandFtw

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Source? You probably can't see the irony in spouting your conspiracy BS while simultaneously calling other people gullible :rolleyes:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1405/25/fzgps.01.html
ZAKARIA: First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you during the revolutions of 1989 funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic. Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?

SOROS: Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.

Of course you'd need the context of knowing those 1989 revolutions and Ukraine's Euro Maidan (referred to above as "events now") were viscous and bloody.
 

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Of course you'd need the context of knowing those 1989 revolutions and Ukraine's Euro Maidan (referred to above as "events now") were viscous and bloody.

So they were thick and sticky and struggled to pour?

:whistling:
 

Xarog

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Unless its Soros' viewpoint, then fsk that guy amirite?
Yeah, I don't like people who use their "charitable" organisations to arrange coups, as a rule.

What Soros is doing is part of the democratic process, like it or not.
If that's all Soros was doing, then it wouldn't be a problem. The problem, though, is that it's never all that Soros is doing.
 

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Lol Xarog rushes in to burn this thread as well.

The Telegraph? The same Telegraph owned by the Barclay brothers. Absolutely no agenda with Soros what so ever.

More on topic.

Vote for Brexit they said. Get great deals they said.

Except when they actually start doing the actual talking.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/japa...fter-talks-11241558?__twitter_impression=true

Considering that Japan has basically sealed a trade deal with the EU, the UK will be out of that deal. Japan can exact any leverage it wants.
 

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Lol Xarog rushes in to burn this thread as well.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richar...wed-to-buy-u-s-foreign-policy/3/#64aa7069454e

After the "Rose Revolution" in Georgia, a number of Soros employees found themselves in power. Consider the case of Alexander Lomaia, who went from running Soros' Open Society Georgia Foundation to being Minister of Education and Science and later Secretary of the Georgia's Security Council.

Nor was Lomaia alone in making the jump from Soros' cubicles to government suites.

Georgia's opposition Labor Party leader, Shalva Natelashvili, contends that "Effectively, George Soros is the president of Georgia, whereas [President] Saakashvili and [Prime Minister] Zurab Zhvania are his governors. Soros's foundation nominated nine ministers of the Georgian government, and all of them were appointed. When they accomplish their mission, they will have to hand over the key posts in the government, economic and political levers of power, ports and railways to Soros. These are the ministers of the economy, culture, security, justice, education and so on. We do not even pay salaries to our government ministers, Soros does. Saakashvili and his team-mates sold themselves out."

Sure, I'll use nothing but MSM sources to burn it to the ground. Unless of course you'd like to simply admit your mistake right now so we don't have to go down that rabbit hole...
 

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/richar...wed-to-buy-u-s-foreign-policy/3/#64aa7069454e

Sure, I'll use nothing but MSM sources to burn it to the ground. Unless of course you'd like to simply admit your mistake right now so we don't have to go down that rabbit hole...

So you cite a 6-year-old Forbes opinion piece, and accidentally forgot to include the most pertinent part:

Georgia's opposition Labor Party leader, Shalva Natelashvili, contends that "Effectively, George Soros is the president of Georgia, whereas [President] Saakashvili and [Prime Minister] Zurab Zhvania are his governors. Soros's foundation nominated nine ministers of the Georgian government, and all of them were appointed. When they accomplish their mission, they will have to hand over the key posts in the government, economic and political levers of power, ports and railways to Soros. These are the ministers of the economy, culture, security, justice, education and so on. We do not even pay salaries to our government ministers, Soros does. Saakashvili and his team-mates sold themselves out."

The opposition leader provided no real evidence that Soros is paying the salaries of government ministers, but the damage is done.

Once again, bulls**t conspiracy theories with zero verifiable evidence, from a biased source. But of course, you're already an expert at cherry-picking what you want to believe, as well as an expert on lying by omission to further your arguments.
 

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BARNIER: BREXIT TRANSITION NOT A GIVEN IF DISAGREEMENTS PERSIST
 

f2wohf

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Who needs trade deals anyway.

Ministers admit almost 65 existing trade deals with non-EU countries are ‘at risk because of Brexit’

Ministers have admitted for the first time that about 65 existing trade deals with non-EU countries are at risk because of Brexit, it has been claimed.

The Government has previously argued the benefits will not be lost because those other countries have agreed to “roll over” the agreements when Britain leaves the EU.

But a new technical note has now revealed that the UK is seeking to be treated legally as a “member state” during the transition period – in order to maintain the trade deals.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...roline-lucas-theresa-may-latest-a8201596.html
 

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BARNIER: BREXIT TRANSITION NOT A GIVEN IF DISAGREEMENTS PERSIST

Sauce: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43001931

EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has warned that a transition period immediately after Brexit in 2019 is "not a given".

He outlined continuing disagreements between the UK and EU over issues like freedom of movement during the period.

He also said the UK's decision to leave the EU single market and customs union meant border checks at the Irish border were "unavoidable".

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Mr Barnier, speaking after a week of technical discussions between civil servants on both sides, said that "substantial" disagreements remained over the transition period.

These included the rights of EU citizens who arrive in the UK after the official Brexit date to keep freedom of movement rights after the transition period ends and the right of the UK to object to EU rules during the period.

"If these disagreements persist the transition is not a given," he said.

He denied he was making a "threat" but added: "You have to bear in mind what the United Kingdom has said, I have some problems understanding the UK position."
 

f2wohf

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Why are you following ZH? Don't want to see you get brain cancer like Xarog.

It doesn't mean that I trust them, I just like to have sources from all sides.

That specific sentence was confirmed in ten different other articles from all medias though.
 

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Have not followed thread but why can't the UK case be handled the same as say Norway for example, be an efta member that's part of the eea?
 

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Have not followed thread but why can't the UK case be handled the same as say Norway for example, be an efta member that's part of the eea?

Because they've never asked for it and because doesn't know what it wants and that David Davis apparently has more important matters than Brexit to deal with?

“We await with great interest the choices to be made by the British government,” Barnier said. He also says the EU is aiming for October or November for a withdrawal agreement -- a sign the timeframe is slipping.

Barner says planned meeting to discuss the U.K.’s future relationship with the bloc was canceled due to “diary constraints” -- says meetings “will continue to take place regularly” and at any time David Davis wishes

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ays-eu-not-updated-on-u-k-plans-brexit-update
 
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