The Brexit Thread

[Pitbull]

Perhaps i could have explained myself better but i feel you are being ignorant again. If the UK wants to do trade with the EU via say the single market then they will have to adopt specific immigration laws with the EU, just like Switzerland has done.

Read: https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-deal-switzerland-immigration-uk-eurosceptics

That is with your assumption that they should remain in single market, this is being utterly deceitful. The labour party I know wants to remain in a single market. Tough though, they not in control

 

[Pitbull]

Also read Pitbull: https://euobserver.com/justice/136398

Again, has nothing to do with the UK and wanting their borders closed. Irrespective what others are doing ...

 

[f2wohf]

Again, has nothing to do with the UK and wanting their borders closed. Irrespective what others are doing ...

Again, you say it’s about closed borders. The British voted to leave the EU, not to close their borders. Technically, you’re wrong.

It should have been a vote to close the borders AND leave the EU then.

Poor british government, they can’t even write properly a referendum ballot anymore.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

It’s not European judges. I asked to show your plain ignorance being sure that somebody would bite.

The ECHR and the Council of Europe are not in anyway related to the EU, Ukraine, Russia and Turkey are members.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

I made the analogy because you don’t need to be an EU member for the single market or for the ECHR.

Thanks, I’m a lawyer, I most likely studied more British law than you ever did...

I even have that in my office:
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Do you have to be a member of the ECHR if you are part of the EU? YES or No?

 

[Pitbull]

Again, you say it’s about closed borders. The British voted to leave the EU, not to close their borders. Technically, you’re wrong.

It should have been a vote to close the borders AND leave the EU then.

Poor british government, they can’t even write properly a referendum ballot anymore.

No it's not. That is the reason the Brexit thing started. They wanted to control the people crossing their borders. You can try and argue semantics all you want

It's a reality and everyone can just get with it already. Delaying tactics and crying about who/what/where/when will do nothing. UK will leave the EU, take full control of their borders and will in all likelihood exit the single market. Done, have a great day

 

[Xarog]

Again, you say it’s about closed borders. The British voted to leave the EU, not to close their borders. Technically, you’re wrong.

It should have been a vote to close the borders AND leave the EU then.

Poor british government, they can’t even write properly a referendum ballot anymore.

If you think that the vote to leave the EU wasn't inspired largely by the desire to be able to close the UK borders, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[f2wohf]

Do you have to be a member of the ECHR if you are part of the EU? YES or No?

The UK was a founding member, even before the creation of the EU.

But yes you do.

Doesn’t make it populated with EU judges either.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

If you think that the vote to leave the EU wasn't inspired largely by the desire to be able to close the UK borders, I have a bridge to sell you.

Where is it? And what's the cost?

 

[f2wohf]

If you think that the vote to leave the EU wasn't inspired largely by the desire to be able to close the UK borders, I have a bridge to sell you.

Where is it written? It was also inspired by 350 million to the NHS, where are they?

You should know better than to trust politicians...

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Again, you say it’s about closed borders. The British voted to leave the EU, not to close their borders. Technically, you’re wrong.

It should have been a vote to close the borders AND leave the EU then.

Poor british government, they can’t even write properly a referendum ballot anymore.

Oh dear I dont think you have been paying much attention to Brexit if you don't think it had a lot to do with immigration and in particular, the drastic reduction of it. Have to go now, but will provide links that it was basically alot to do with immigration. Farage knew that, hence his poster

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The UK was a founding member, even before the creation of the EU.

But yes you do.

Doesn’t make it populated with EU judges either.

It is... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_judges_of_the_European_Court_of_Human_Rights

 

[f2wohf]

Oh dear I dont think you have been paying much attention to Brexit if you don't think it had a lot to do with immigration and in particular, the drastic reduction of it. Have to go now, but will provide links that it was basically alot to do with immigration. Farage knew that, hence his poster

Just saying that it’s not in writing in official documents, what Farage says or write is not binding.

I’ve also demonstrated that 50% of the immigration is not from the EU, they haven’t even tried to reduce that immigration.

 

[f2wohf]

It is... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_judges_of_the_European_Court_of_Human_Rights

They are judges of the members, genius.

Not judges appointed by the EU otherwise Bosnia or Turkey wouldn’t be there.

UK should get out of the WTO and the ICC because they have judges from European Union member countries too?

Following your logic, UK can’t be in any international organization whatsoever.

 

[Xarog]

Where is it written? It was also inspired by 350 million to the NHS, where are they?

You should know better than to trust politicians...

I'm talking about the voters, not the politicians.

 

[buka001]

Still wrong, but alas, you won't admit it.









Fine companies. boohoo.



Yes, as just like Airbus leaving or Toyota leaving and other companies. The country will still be fine. Britain has had an unemployment of 23% at one stage and guess what, they came through it fine.

Well since 1973 UK unemployment rate has averaged at 7%.

Guess when the UK joined the EU?

When was the UK unemployment rate at 23%?

 

[Pitbull]

Well since 1973 UK unemployment rate has averaged at 7%.

Guess when the UK joined the EU?

When was the UK unemployment rate at 23%?

Not that it's relevant, I wasn't aligning it to anything. I was saying they had a 23% before and they pulled through fine. But I'm sure you're going to try and put some spin on it.

 

[Unhappy438]

That is with your assumption that they should remain in single market, this is being utterly deceitful. The labour party I know wants to remain in a single market. Tough though, they not in control

No its not my assumption, it doesn't need to be single market, that was just a good example. Its fact that travel between countries is established based on trade and relationship between said countries. The UK wont be an exception if they want to continue doing trade with the EU.

 

[Pitbull]

No its not my assumption, it doesn't need to be single market, that was just a good example. Its fact that travel between countries is established based on trade and relationship between said countries. The UK wont be an exception if they want to continue doing trade with the EU.

They don't need an exception

 

[Unhappy438]

They don't need an exception

What do you mean they dont need an exception? The UK will still have to do trade with the EU, they will need to come to an agreement/compromise to do so. This will naturally involve their borders ( bearing in mind many UK citizens reside in Europe). The idea that the UK will have your definition of full control of their borders is fairy tale thinking.

 

[Pitbull]

What do you mean they dont need an exception? The UK will still have to do trade with the EU, they will need to come to an agreement/compromise to do so. This will naturally involve their borders ( bearing in mind many UK citizens reside in Europe). The idea that the UK will have your definition of full control of their borders is fairy tale thinking.

No it's not. You trying to make it one.

It's simple: Exit EU, give 6 months notice of deportation if not documented to stay (VISA) or whatever requirement might be needed. After 6 months, they out. Again, you making it harder than it should be. There is ZERO need for an exception to EU passport holders or UK passport holders.