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f2wohf said:
https://www.politico.eu/article/chi...ming-no-uk-trade-talks-without-a-brexit-deal/

Don’t worry, the UK will get better deals.
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Eh? Anyone who genuinely wants to negotiate a deal with the UK would want policy clarity before proceeding, that is no indication of the likelihood or the quality of a deal in the least, merely a logical statement.

Uncertainty created by the current incomplete exit will be a concern to potential trading partners, well duh. In other news: water is wet.
 
f2wohf said:
https://www.politico.eu/article/chi...ming-no-uk-trade-talks-without-a-brexit-deal/

Don’t worry, the UK will get better deals.
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NarrowBandFtw said:
Eh? Anyone who genuinely wants to negotiate a deal with the UK would want policy clarity before proceeding, that is no indication of the likelihood or the quality of a deal in the least, merely a logical statement.

Uncertainty created by the current incomplete exit will be a concern to potential trading partners, well duh. In other news: water is wet.
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Narrowband is correct. It's not a bad thing. They just want clarity before continuing talks :confused:

Kind of anti-Brexit propaganda tbh.
 
Pitbull said:
Narrowband is correct. It's not a bad thing. They just want clarity before continuing talks :confused:

Kind of anti-Brexit propaganda tbh.
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The small issue here is that when clarity occurs, it will leave a gap of 2/5 years without a trade deal (the time to negotiate a new one).

The other thing is that China sticks to the EU rules of no negotiations before Brexit unlike what Brexiters wanted.
 
f2wohf said:
The small issue here is that when clarity occurs, it will leave a gap of 2/5 years without a trade deal (the time to negotiate a new one).

The other thing is that China sticks to the EU rules of no negotiations before Brexit unlike what Brexiters wanted.
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True, it was obvious there would be a timeframe for deficit in trade. Rather 2 - 5 years of that than another lifetime of EU bullshyte.
 
lol.

Theresa May just suffered a major Brexit defeat on her plans to leave the customs union

Theresa May has suffered a major defeat on her plans to leave the Customs Union after peers voted for an amendment to the Brexit bill that could force the government to retain customs ties with the EU.

The House of Lords voted by a huge majority of 348 to 225 for an amendment to the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill which could force May to leave the door open for continued participation in a Customs Union with the EU — something she has previously explicitly ruled out.

The amendment, which will now pass back to the Commons "enables the United Kingdom to continue participating in a customs union with the EU."

The defeat means the bill will now pass back to the House of Commons where 10 Conservative MPs have already joined with opposition parties in a related attempt to force May to reverse her position on the customs union.

Membership of the customs union is something the prime minister has repeatedly refused to commit to, and which could severely threaten the unity of her own party.
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Yeah, true. The Peers also likely fear backlash a bit less than MPs do.
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Considering a lot of the polls show that support for remain is now in the majority those MP's should be more worried about a future backlash when it all goes wrong and they've been sitting on their hands doing nothing....
 
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But it would be unfair to say that Brexiters want to have it both ways.
 
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But it would be unfair to say that Brexiters want to have it both ways.
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Yeah, that newspaper headline is a tad misleading as it sounds like it's a fee directed specifically at Britain, rather than being the norm, directed at the whole world, except the 30 countries in the EEA (29 after Brexit)
 
The British government faced pressure over Brexit at home and abroad Monday, including a defeat in Parliament over who gets the final say on an exit deal with the European Union.

By 335 votes to 244, the House of Lords backed an amendment to the government's key Brexit bill to give Parliament decision-making power on the outcome of negotiations with the EU - including the power to call off the divorce.

The government said it was disappointed. Brexit Minister Martin Callanan said the decision would "weaken the UK's hand in our negotiations with the EU by giving Parliament unprecedented powers."

It's not clear whether the amendment will be approved by lawmakers when the bill goes back to the elected House of Commons.

Meanwhile the EU's chief negotiator urged faster action on the fraught problem of the Irish border, saying there needs to be agreement by June on a way to keep it barrier-free after Brexit.
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https://www.fin24.com/Economy/uk-government-suffers-brexit-defeat-in-house-of-lords-20180430
 
May forced to give MPs single market vote after shock defeat

MPs will have a vote on remaining in the European Economic Area – effectively a vote on the single market – after a shock defeat for the government in the Lords.

It means the Brexit strategy of both Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn has been blown apart in the past 24 hours.

The rebel Labour amendment in the Lords opened the prospect of a Commons vote on the EEA – a less stringent version of the single market – after 83 Labour peers voted against the party whip.

Chuka Umunna, the Labour MP who co-chairs a pro-European Commons committee with the Conservative Anna Soubry, said the leadership would now have to come off the fence and make it clear where it stood.

“The time for constructive ambiguity is over – our members and our voters will be delighted with this clear signal that we will not go along with this Tory Brexit,” he said.
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The clock is ticking on both May and Corbyn. I'm hoping Labour will get rid of the latter in favour of someone who isn't a Brexiteer and can unite the Labour party behind a vision to remain.
 
They should make Brexit happen faster.

The damn liberal bureaucrats from Brussels have managed to sabotage the UK economy!

UK retail sales fell at their sharpest rate since 1995 last month, according to the British Retail Consortium.
While the timing of Easter was partly to blame, weakening consumer confidence was the key driver.
"Even once we take account of these seasonal distortions, the underlying trend in sales growth is heading downwards," the BRC's chief executive Helen Dickinson said in a statement.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/uk-economy-retail-sales-fall-at-record-pace-2018-5
 
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