The Brexit Thread

[NarrowBandFtw]

I think you'll find the warnings about the economic damage a no deal Brexit will cause is actually spot on

Impossible to determine without actually going through with it. Every single article that decries the loss of X-company or Y-club moving away or being inaccessible is entirely blind to the possibilities that open up to join forces with other companies and organizations that were previously not accessible due to EU membership.

there is insufficient public and parliamentary support to get that through; a vote on the final deal is almost inevitable.

This may well be true, if so, it is only true due to two things:
- a government hell bent on maintaining status quo and doing their level best to cook up a worthless deal
- continued anti-brexit propaganda everywhere you look

What was that about biggest liars again? ...

 

[f2wohf]

that open up to join forces with other companies and organizations that were previously not accessible due to EU membership.

What was not accessible due to EU membership? Would love to see an example or two.

 

[Cray]

The left were all in tears as they didn't vote, crying about what is going to happen now. Since the very same day the results have come out they wanted another vote. That is not how voting works. The people have made their choice, Government must now act on it. Those who voted can change their minds all they like. It's done.

Easy to say when you aren't the one being affected by it...

 

[Cray]

This may well be true, if so, it is only true due to two things:
- a government hell bent on maintaining status quo and doing their level best to cook up a worthless deal
- continued anti-brexit propaganda everywhere you look
:

propaganda- information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view.

Any examples of this mis-leading information regarding Brexit?

 

[Mrlepen]

We need to vote to take back the land lol I bet majority will win now that's how democracy works

 

[Pitbull]

They can do the Brexit. Vote again in a few years on reentering the EU and I'm sure my fellow Europeans will give them again their very favourable leeway to cherry pick every single item they want or not and their EU subscription rebate.

By all means, if they made a mistake and want to re-enter they are free to vote and do that. But after Brexit happening first as that is what they wanted

 

[Pitbull]

Easy to say when you aren't the one being affected by it...

True, but it doesn't change the facts though. The vote is done and dusted. People now need to accept it and deal with the consequences. Right or wrong, it's the choice the people made.

 

[Dave]

Won't happen as it goes against the people's wishes.

Not matter how much the left cries and jumps up and down. They lost the vote, there will be hell to pay should they go against the vote which voted - Leave.

You’ve shown your ignorance of the UK situation with that post, Corbyn and the hard left are Leavers, as they believe being in the EU would prevent them from establishing a Socialist state in the UK if they won a sufficient majority of extreme left wingers in the future.

That is irrelevant though.

There has been whining and crying since the vote. The vote has been done, and it needs to be honored. Simple as that.

True, but it doesn't change the facts though. The vote is done and dusted. People now need to accept it and deal with the consequences. Right or wrong, it's the choice the people made.

If that’s the case, and “the will of the people” is sacrosanct after the vote, why was a second referendum allowed?

 

[Pitbull]

You’ve shown your ignorance of the UK situation with that post, Corbyn and the hard left are Leavers, as they believe being in the EU would prevent them from establishing a Socialist state in the UK if they won a sufficient majority of extreme left wingers in the future.









If that’s the case, and “the will of the people” is sacrosanct after the vote, why was a second referendum allowed?


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This changes what exactly?

YOU LOST!!!

They Brexiteers won. Live with it... :crylaugh:

 

[Dave]

This changes what exactly?

YOU LOST!!!

They Brexiteers won. Live with it... :crylaugh:

So you don’t have any answers to what was asked then.

Ok...

 

[Pitbull]

So you don’t have any answers to what was asked then.

Ok...

What second referendum? and you quote results from 1975

WTF does that have to do with the Brexit vote?

I think you're delusional tbh

 

[Dave]

What second referendum? and you quote results from 1975

WTF does that have to do with the Brexit vote?

I think you're delusional tbh

The referendum in 2016 was the second referendum on the subject, you didn’t realise that?

You didn’t know Corbyn and the hard left are Brexit supporters?


I think you need to go away and do some homework on the subject before commenting again

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Corbyn and the hard left are Leavers

:crylaugh: Corbyn, along with EVERY other MP from either of the two major political parties, is a bremoaner:

Speaking after a meeting of the Party of European Socialists in Brussels, he said: "The Labour Party is going to be committed to campaigning to stay in the European Union.

That's him before the referendum: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35743994

He went on to deride the idea that it was the EU that forced Britain to fanatically sell off our economic assets to international big business, making a religion of contracting out and setting up markets where they don’t exist and can’t function. Our governments did that themselves. Far from the EU making a requirement of, say, privatisation and contracting out, Corbyn points out that “if you go to Germany you’ll struggle to find a train that wasn’t built there, even though they’re currently governed by the same rules as us”.

That's him now: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-vote-leaving-eu-plan-single-market-theresa-may-a8463346.html

"Leaver" indeed :crylaugh:

 

[Pitbull]

The referendum in 2016 was the second referendum on the subject, you didn’t realise that?

Wait, you are saying a vote 41 years after a previous vote is a second referendum? Geesus :crylaugh:

Sure, it was a vote on it again, has nothing to do with the first vote. Just like you and I vote for a new party every 4 years. 41 farking years? LOL!!!!

You didn’t know Corbyn and the hard left are Brexit supporters?


I think you need to go away and do some homework on the subject before commenting again

So what if Corbyn and other leftists support it? You have still lost me...

What does that have to do with the Leftists on the forum being butt-hurt about Brexit

Oooo I get it, you made a stupid assumption all on your own and now try pin it on me

 

[Pitbull]

:crylaugh: Corbyn, along with EVERY other MP from either of the two major political parties, is a bremoaner:

That's him before the referendum: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35743994


That's him now: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-vote-leaving-eu-plan-single-market-theresa-may-a8463346.html

"Leaver" indeed :crylaugh:

He still thinks a referendum 41 years after the first one is in some way related :crylaugh:

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

He still thinks a referendum 41 years after the first one is in some way related :crylaugh:

The delicious irony is the campaign in 1975 to stay in the EEC used the argument that it was too soon to know the full effects, that is 2 years after entering into the EEC. Yet now it is not too soon to reverse brexit even before it happens ...
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-eu-referendum-will-be-nothing-like-the-last-brexit-cameron-1975-eec/

 

[Mrlepen]

Pitbull I live your honest opinion that's how democracy works worldwide majority wins and majority rules. If people want to vote for free stuff and majority wants it then shame they win . If people are not happy with Brexit then they must change the system from democracy to something else maybe communism since there is no voting

True, but it doesn't change the facts though. The vote is done and dusted. People now need to accept it and deal with the consequences. Right or wrong, it's the choice the people made.

 

[Pitbull]

Pitbull I live your honest opinion that's how democracy works worldwide majority wins and majority rules. If people want to vote for free stuff and majority wants it then shame they win . If people are not happy with Brexit then they must change the system from democracy to something else maybe communism since there is no voting

We ourselves sit with the exact same dilemma now. Look at Expropriation without compensation. The Government is going to change the constitution and then it's law. No amount of whining or crying will change that. So we have to accept it or leave. Simple as that. I don't like it, but that is what the majority wants. So best to sell what we have now while we still can and relocate it outside of SA.

 

[Mrlepen]

Outside south Africa is worse only bombs and war

We ourselves sit with the exact same dilemma now. Look at Expropriation without compensation. The Government is going to change the constitution and then it's law. No amount of whining or crying will change that. So we have to accept it or leave. Simple as that. I don't like it, but that is what the majority wants. So best to sell what we have now while we still can and relocate it outside of SA.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

What was not accessible due to EU membership? Would love to see an example or two.

How about any bilateral trade agreement with any other nation outside of the EU? You realize that is entirely inaccessible to EU members right? :wtf:

Any examples of this mis-leading information regarding Brexit?

Sure thing, there are countless examples, shout if you want more, here's two to get you started:
https://www.independent.co.uk/infact/brexit-second-referendum-false-claims-eu-referendum-campaign-lies-fake-news-a8113381.html

‘We will need an emergency Budget to restore stability to public finances’ – George Osborne
George Osborne’s predicted “emergency Budget” full of tax rises and spending cuts after the Brexit vote never materialised – the Treasury has broadly stuck to Mr Osborne’s economic plans on spending from before the vote. It also has no significant plans to raise taxes or cut spending when Britain actually leaves the EU in March 2019.

‘Two thirds of British jobs in manufacturing are dependent on demand from Europe’ – Alan Johnson
This claim by the Remain campaign was based on outdated data by the Centre of Economics and Business Research (CEBR). The consultancy has since revised the figures: it says the figure is more likely to be around 17 per cent.