The Brexit Thread

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Dave said:
Do you know if there is a specific amendment tailored for Australians?
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Australians are very passionate about the opportunities that a proper / real Brexit affords them. Tony Abbott, the former Australian PM, wrote a widely shared article about the opportunities from Brexit last year. We also have the New Zealand PM wanting a FTA as seen below.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1089559875611435008

It's just the British political establishment who are not excited and passionate about Brexit.

Also I'd like to commend the few British Labour MPs who abstained or voted against the Grieve and Cooper amendments. Staying true to the patriotic working class who Labour were founded to represent but who now increasingly represent the metropolitan liberal elite.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
Australians are very passionate about the opportunities that a proper / real Brexit affords them. Tony Abbott, the former Australian PM, wrote a widely shared article about the opportunities from Brexit last year. We also have the New Zealand PM wanting a FTA as seen below.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1089559875611435008

It's just the British political establishment who are not excited and passionate about Brexit.

Also I'd like to commend the few British Labour MPs who abstained or voted against the Grieve and Cooper amendments. Staying true to the patriotic working class who Labour were founded to represent but who now increasingly represent the metropolitan liberal elite.
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Which amendment do you think white supremacists/Islamophobes/xenophobes will prefer?
 
lol, what a clusterfsck this is.

Quite a timeline this:

- MPs back call for deal to be passed if backstop removed by majority of 16

- Theresa May says now a majority of MPs have said they would support a deal, with changes to the backstop.

- Ian Blackford, the SNP leader at Westminster, says the Conservatives have tonight “ripped apart” the Good Friday agreement, a treaty that delivered peace to Northern Ireland. That is because the backstop was needed under the Good Friday agremement, he says.

- Sir Vince Cable, the Lib Dem leader, says MPs have given May contradictory instructions. They have voted against no deal, but they have voted for a negotiating position that will deliver no deal. He says May should return to the Commons tomorrow to make a statement explaining what the “alternative arrangements” to the backstop envisaged in the Brady amendment are.

- A spokesman for Donald Tusk, the European council president, has put out this response to the vote. Here is the key line. "The backstop is part of the withdrawal agreement and the withdrawal agreement is not open for re-negotiation."

Womp womp.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
lol, what a clusterfsck this is.

Quite a timeline this:

- MPs back call for deal to be passed if backstop removed by majority of 16

- Theresa May says now a majority of MPs have said they would support a deal, with changes to the backstop.

- Ian Blackford, the SNP leader at Westminster, says the Conservatives have tonight “ripped apart” the Good Friday agreement, a treaty that delivered peace to Northern Ireland. That is because the backstop was needed under the Good Friday agremement, he says.

- Sir Vince Cable, the Lib Dem leader, says MPs have given May contradictory instructions. They have voted against no deal, but they have voted for a negotiating position that will deliver no deal. He says May should return to the Commons tomorrow to make a statement explaining what the “alternative arrangements” to the backstop envisaged in the Brady amendment are.

- A spokesman for Donald Tusk, the European council president, has put out this response to the vote. Here is the key line. "The backstop is part of the withdrawal agreement and the withdrawal agreement is not open for re-negotiation."

Womp womp.
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The Brady amendment aka the unicorns amendment.
 
I'm back and still ready to hang Rees-Mogg!

I had a good laugh at the irony in there:
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One of the most iconic British companies moves its design unit to Germany.

Rolls, one of the biggest names in British industry, said relocating the design approval process was a purely technical move and would not involve transferring jobs.

The move is the latest example of rebasing some activities to ensure smooth operations in the case of a ‘no deal’ Brexit when Britain is due to leave the bloc on March 29.


Officials say the move will make it easier for Rolls to continue to sell engines outside Europe following Brexit, which would otherwise have depended on new regulatory deals being struck between Britain and the nations of many airlines.

Aircraft safety and the design approvals process are among issues that Britain and the EU have yet to settle.

Rolls said in April it had applied for permission to transfer the approval process - and with it the home for its designs as far as regulators are concerned - for large jet engines to its German unit to ease the impact of Brexit.


The European Aviation Safety Agency said in a filing that it had now formally approved the request.
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https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-engine-designs-ahead-of-brexit-idUKKCN1PO22O
 
This has to be the biggest political blunder of the 20th and 21st centuries.

Firstly, the MPs do not know what they want. This is clear from the voting - its all over the place. Nobody can agree on exactly what they want - it is so 50/50. But, Brexit is either in or out - 50/50 voting does not suit it.

I think we are heading for no deal. The ERG is happy to play out the clock, to get what they really want. They will then short various UK stocks and make a fortune, smiling while the UK economy goes through a recession.

Corbyn refused to allow Angela Smith to discuss a second referendum, because he knows it will negatively affect his party while saving the UK.

The people in the UK who support Brexit think that the EU is being condescending towards them by not giving into their every whim. Like what?

"We want no hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland but we also don't want to be part of the customs union, which means that a border of some kind is required to enforce tariffs."

Its logically inconsistent. There is no solution.
 
Tusk tweeted: “My message to PM Theresa May: the EU position is clear and consistent. The withdrawal agreement is not open for renegotiation. Yesterday, we found out what the UK doesn’t want. But we still don’t know what the UK does want.”
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This is the whole problem. They don't want the backstop, but they also don't want to tell the EU what they really want. They want this unicorn magic deal that poops rainbows that somehow avoids the need for a backstop, while also not having a hard border between NI and RoI.

But nobody has ever seen the unicorn so nobody can describe it to the EU.

None of the Brexiteers has come up with anything either. They all want no deal, but none of them offer any solution to the border problem between NI and RoI.
 
Brexit: Car investment halves as industry hits 'red alert'
Inward investment fell 46.5% to £588.6m last year from £1.1bn in 2017, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) says.

Production fell 9.1% to 1.52m vehicles, with output for the UK and for export falling 16.3% and 7.3% respectively.

Brexit uncertainty has "done enormous damage", said SMMT chief Mike Hawes.

But the impact so far on output, investment and jobs "is nothing compared with the permanent devastation caused by severing our frictionless trade links overnight, not just with the EU but with the many other global markets with which we currently trade freely," he added.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47055188

Barclays shifts billions of pounds to Dublin because of Brexit
Barclays is moving €190bn (£166bn) of assets to Dublin because it "cannot wait any longer" to implement its Brexit contingency plan.

The High Court, which has approved the move, says the move involves 5,000 clients. However, few jobs in London are expected to be affected.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47060676
 
The whole point of the referendum was to return decision making to Parliament. Moral of the story "Careful what you wish for" :)
 
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