The case for Icasa

In the absence of a fully liberalised telecoms market, Icasa is SA’s only hope of cheaper, broader and better telecoms services.

Oh well guess we're screwed.
 
In the absence of a fully liberalised telecoms market, Icasa is SA’s only hope of cheaper, broader and better telecoms services.

Translation: We're screwed. :D
 
almost a standard article that could have been released at any time over the last 5 years
 
Bah humbug, we all know whats wrong. We've heard it a million times before. We want a way forward. And this should include the dismantling of Telkom.
 
Please draw up a reply document where life without ICASA is approached, where we can all implement our own infrastructure, make our own deals and provide REAL competition.

I still think ICASA does nothing but prevent true competition.
 
Putting ICASA up as SA’s only hope of cheaper, broader and better telecoms services is just plain silly.

I'd much rather place SA's hopes with Neotel, Infraco, EASSY, municipalities, broadband over powerlines, etc, etc, than anything that ICASA might (or might not) do.
 
ICASA will never be empowered as long as the government and its cronies are shareholders in any of the operators - land line and mobile alike. Telkom's shareholder roll needs to be opened to scrutiny.

Someone needs to walk up to Ivy - smack the glazed donut out of her hand and ask her straight out how many shares she has.
 
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http://www.mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=5102True, but I would place less emphasis on the "strong and independent regulator" and considerably more emphasis on "allowing robust competition" - in a highly competitive market the role of a regulator is less important.
If we have a strong and robust regulator, like they do in Britain, then the scene is set for robust competition. I hope you're not saying the regulator in that country is unimportant, because that is simply absurd.

The only people arguing for self-regulation and a weak ICASA are the monopolies and corporate giants. You know which ones I mean, one of them being the forum sponsor and conference host. Which lead me to my next point - that perhaps Myadsl needs to be strong and independent itself, accepting of criticism and robust debate, before they can make such a comment.
 
If we have a strong and robust regulator, like they do in Britain, then the scene is set for robust competition. I hope you're not saying the regulator in that country is unimportant, because that is simply absurd.

The only people arguing for self-regulation and a weak ICASA are the monopolies and corporate giants. You know which ones I mean, one of them being the forum sponsor and conference host. Which lead me to my next point - that perhaps Myadsl needs to be strong and independent itself, accepting of criticism and robust debate, before they can make such a comment.
I did not post that no regulation is required, I did not post that we do not need a strong and independent telecoms regulator, you're insinuations & twisting of what I did post, are highly offensive.

What I did post, was specifically in response to what I quoted from the article written by the Business Day, about the guavamint mistakes of the past where guavamint failed to introduce any effective competition to Telkodemonopolies prior to the semi-privatisation of Telkodemonopolies, my point being that had there been sufficient and effective competition to Telkodemonopolies, prior to the privatisation of Telkodemonopolies, then less regulation would be required bcos competition tends to force self-regulation in favour of consumers.

If you look around, you will see that there are lots of other opinions other than your own, and while you obviously want everyone to conform to your own way of thinking in your hometown called "Censorville", the rest of us will continue with our robust and balanced debates instead of trolling & baiting of fellow forumites.
 
Obviously you get offended easily. Perhaps you should read my post properly instead of getting so aggressive. We are here to debate our opinions. Clearly we disagree, so debate what you disagree with and cut out the personal responses and revenge infractions and bannings when other people disagree with YOU.
 
ICASA seeks legal opinion on VANS licences

Perhaps another reason to support the view of Icasa incompetence and lack of capability, preventing competition and have no rugulatory backbone. They cannot decide or agree on anything, playing for time, maybe play in the hands (instructed) of the shareholders of telecoms in this country ie. Telkom and the government.

http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/telecoms/2006/0612081030.asp?S=Legal View&A=LEG&O=FRGN
 
Perhaps another reason to support the view of Icasa incompetence and lack of capability, preventing competition and have no rugulatory backbone. They cannot decide or agree on anything, playing for time, maybe play in the hands (instructed) of the shareholders of telecoms in this country ie. Telkom and the government.

http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/telecoms/2006/0612081030.asp?S=Legal View&A=LEG&O=FRGN
IncompetentCASA's ADSL Regulations [if one can call them that], once guavamint gazetted, were reason enough for me to lose all faith I once had in ICASA, IMO this incompetence not only stems from a lack of independence from the Grim Poisonous Ivyness Creeper, but is actively encouraged by the ministerial bovinity, and certainly protects Telkodemonopolies' de facto fixed line monopoly status - there have to be lots of guavamint people getting money under various tables as a result of IncompetentCASA.
 
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You know which ones I mean, one of them being the forum sponsor and conference host. Which lead me to my next point - that perhaps Myadsl needs to be strong and independent itself, accepting of criticism and robust debate, before they can make such a comment.

What are you on about?
 
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