The Elections Thread - 7 May 2014

Which party you will vote for in the 2014 election?

  • ANC

    Votes: 13 2.8%
  • DA

    Votes: 379 81.9%
  • COPE

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • EFF

    Votes: 14 3.0%
  • FF+

    Votes: 13 2.8%
  • IFP

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • NFP

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • ACDP

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • AGANG

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 27 5.8%

  • Total voters
    463
Justice Malala writes: President Jacob Zuma is not a fool. He makes gaffes every week and has no idea what constitutionality means.
But he is not a fool.
He might not read - as has been alleged - but that does not mean he does not know what levers have to be cranked to ensure that he never gets inside a court.
Since he became the president of the ANC in 2007, he has overseen the most concerted and successful assault on the country's independent institutions.
The judiciary is today facing a major crisis of confidence because of cases involving him at the Constitutional Court.
The minute he won the ANC presidency in Polokwane, the Scorpions - which had been investigating him- were disbanded. It was quick, cruel and ruthless.
Over the past few months it has been the public protector's turn. In that time, we have witnessed concerted and coordinated attacks from parliament, the executive and various wings of the ANC on the office led by possibly the most admired "public servant" in the nation today - Thuli Madonsela.
This past week we had the extraordinary sight of our security cluster - which has over the past few weeks made fools of themselves saying all kinds of nonsense about Madonsela - turning on the populace and declaring that publication of pictures of the taxpayer-funded Nkandla monstrosity were illegal and that the full might of the law would come down on those who dared to do so. All this for one man: Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma.
The man is not a fool. He has managed to get Africa's oldest liberation movement to become a tool for his protection.
Whatever he does - whether it is his friends the Guptas landing their planes at military key points with impunity or a hideous compound being built for him for R208-million, the man has got the party rushing to do his bidding.
And so one has to ask: Which ANC is this?
How can an organisation that refused to have a personality cult built around Nelson Mandela allow itself to become a mere tool in the hands of Zuma? How can its leaders cast aside the party's historical mission - to transform the lives of millions of poor black people and build a united, non-racial, prosperous and democratic country - to simply become gophers for Zuma?
Yet that is what the party's 86-member national executive committee has become.
ANC MPs are now introducing legislation that is aimed solely at protecting this one man.
Across the land, provincial party leaders hobble state machinery merely to protect and keep this one compromised leader out of jail and in power.
It is an incredible sight.
Once proud leaders who served our nation in exile, in the United Democratic Front and in trade unions now scrape and bow before one man.
The ANC no longer has leaders. It has zombies who mindlessly follow this one leader and do his bidding.
It is quite extraordinary.
What has happened to the culture of debate and contestation that once permeated this movement?
What happened to the pride that made this once great organisation stand up and expel people who muddied its name?
How can this lot walk in the shoes of Albert Luthuli, AP Mda, Anton Lembede, Pixley kaIsaka Seme?
So, as we look at the extraordinary lengths that the current ANC "leadership" has gone to defend an embarrassment of a leader whose entire family seems to be infused by a shocking culture of entitlement - Zuma's brother, Michael, last week admitted using his name to swing tenders to his benefactors - we have to ask: Where is the ANC?
The answer is heart-breaking: The ANC is compromised; it is lost.
It has lost its moral compass and its leadership of society.
The man at its head is a reflection of what the party is: ill-disciplined, compromised and unprincipled.
The desperation one sees among the ANC's leaders is a reflection of this. When a man as widely admired as Cyril Ramaphosa has no other argument to convince a voter to still support the ANC than "the Boers will return", then you know that this is a movement that is both intellectually and morally bankrupt. The emperor and his lieutenants have no clothes.
And so we will remember the reign of Zuma. We will remember it not for its achievements but for the cowardice, callowness and bankruptcy of the leadership that he brought with him. We will remember his lackeys for their bowing and scraping and their destruction of the continent's greatest liberation movement.
What an ignominious end for the party of Mandela.
 
Ill be honest, this scares the crap out of me :

EFF 1 012 750 0 6.10%

What are those million people going to do when they don't get their free mine and beachfront property?
 
I see the da has done well in GP. I take it at this stage we can say ANC has definitely retained GP ?
 
EFF + ANC have more than two thirds - there goes the neighbourhood.
 
The next time I go to a restaurant and get served by a black waiter, I'm not going to give them a tip. I'm going to tell them: "Go ask the ANC for your tip. You voted for them."
 
I dont believe the ANC and EFF will join up. Hysterical MyBB paranoia IMO. ANC and DA are more closely aligned in terms of policy.
 
Do you think they will come together to get those two thirds though?

I don't think that will be necessary, they will certainly agree on enough policies and have the required amount of seats to effect a change in the constitution. Scary stuff.
 
Shortsighted greed will cause the downfall of the ANC, but the bigger problem is if the country goes down with them.

The next time I go to a restaurant and get served by a black waiter, I'm not going to give them a tip. I'm going to tell them: "Go ask the ANC for your tip. You voted for them."

Sheez, horrifically racist generalisation.
(edit: ah, saw the 'joking' post too late)
 
Zuma greeted all political parties except the EFF when he went to the election center last night, to which the EFF responded that they wouldn't shake the hand of a criminal anyway, so I doubt the ANC and EFF will be forming an alliance any time soon.
 
EFF says they want Gauteng audited, I agree this is a disgrace all the ballots being thrown away, the IEC is a joke

I actually agree with them. I find the whole Gauteng votes a little dodgy if I am honest.
 
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