The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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Is there any independent way for us to verify how many cars actually got tagged and went through gantries vs. how many didn't?

I don't trust a word SANRAL or the Government says on the matter.
 
Another day, another 17 pages, and nothing new, no surprise.

Fact is that it is a 1st world problem and it is the 1st worlders whinging the loudest about a 1st world problem in a 3rd world society despite that fact that at a cap of R450 for most (including unregistered taxis) it is a piddling amount per month.
The same 1st worlders that boast about breaking the law and not paying their fines....yep, huge issue for them those traffic rules shouldn't be there, make the govt fight for the money etc, make the system unworkable.

Removed drivel

I don't expect agreement, but I come in here and all I see on so called 'current affairs' sub forum is a massive 'whinge-fest' about a corrupt govt, from 1st worlders comfortable in a 1st world cocoon that they feel is being threatened.

cheers

...you may resume normal service....

Speaking of normal service, I take it that you've done your rounds with the sheep now that you seem to have time to write drivel here?
 
Is there any independent way for us to verify how many cars actually got tagged and went through gantries vs. how many didn't?

I don't trust a word SANRAL or the Government says on the matter.

Start a poll here - it might be an indication. People don't need to give names if they're worried about the comments that may arise about having a tag. And you do it for say the first week 3-10 December.

Have driven under a gantry with a tag
Have driven under a gantry without a tag
Live in Gauteng but haven't been on the toll road
Live elsewhere in SA
Was busy riding a sheep

That might give an indication.

The trouble is that there are a huge number of vehicles that are tagged that will not go on the toll roads. Everytime I've driven a Europcar in Durban it has had a tag. The question that should be asked is how many cars go under a sepcific gantry and how many of those cars were tagged.

And I don't trust a word that SANRAL or the government says on any matter.
 
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blah blah blah pathetic nonsense

Go away troll, all your points have been addressed and been found wanting. Now you are just saying the same things over and over in the hopes that saying something a million times magically makes it true
 
Don't feed the OzzieCapie troll guys, he is clearly working for SANRAL or Kapsch.
 
I played that game again this morning with the SO on the way to work. Spot-the-tag. Out of more than 100 cars, we saw..5-6 at most.
Also traffic was back to its normal capacity on the highways from the South today. Should SANRAL be worried?
 
http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Triple-price-blow-for-consumers-20131203

Cape Town - The petrol increase is the final nail in the coffin for consumers following the activation of e-tolls and a warning of a possible taxi fare hike, according to experts.

The price of both grades of petrol increased by 17 cents a litre (c/l) and diesel by 10.12 c/l at midnight on Tuesday.

Tuesday also marked the beginning of the electronic and cross-border collection of toll fees in Gauteng.

Efficient Group chief economist Dawie Roodt told Fin24 that the petrol price increase is a result of a weak currency and high international oil prices.

"The rand is making our lives difficult and international oil prices have been up in the last couple of weeks."

He said consumers have been facing strain because the economy has performed dismally in 2013.

Pressure on the pocket

"It has probably been the most difficult year for consumers since 2007/8 and the petrol increase is the final nail in the coffin for consumers."

He said the petrol increase and e-toll tariffs come on top of a number of other hikes throughout the year such as electricity.

"Retail sales are already slowing down and that is a sign that consumers are under pressure," said Roodt.

He also predicted a mute period for Christmas sales and another petrol hike for January.

Debt Rescue CEO Neil Roets told Fin24 that the petrol price increase and e-toll system will have a devastating effect on consumers.

Poor hardest hit

He warned that this will mostly affect the middle class and lower income groups.

"These price hikes will not only cause transportation to be more expensive, but the prices of goods and services are also likely to increase."

"It will also in all probability cause taxi fees to increase, as taxi owners will have bigger expenses to cover," said Roets.

"The combination of these price hikes will have a very negative impact on the finances of South African households, especially with the festive season underway as people tend to spend more money during this time."

He suggested that consumers draw up a budget which they can stick to during these times and they should distinguish between what they want and what they actually need.

Taxi fee hikes

The National Taxi Alliance (NTA) announced that e-tolls could push up the prices of taxi fares, according to Sapa.

Although taxis would not pay e-tolls, almost 80% of Gauteng's taxis did not have permits, said NTA spokesperson Theo Malele.

"About 50% of those permits are lying with the permits board," he said.

- Fin24
 
The National Taxi Alliance (NTA) announced that e-tolls could push up the prices of taxi fares, according to Sapa.

Although taxis would not pay e-tolls, almost 80% of Gauteng's taxis did not have permits, said NTA spokesperson Theo Malele.

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Don't feed the OzzieCapie troll guys, he is clearly working for SANRAL or Kapsch.

he sounds more and more like an Australian everyday

it's easy to chirp when you're sitting 10 000 km's away
 
he sounds more and more like an Australian everyday

it's easy to chirp when you're sitting 10 000 km's away

I don't think so, he clearly doesn't know about tolling in Australia either and he's just inciting.
 
I noticed today that the customer service offices are now open from 6:00 to 20:00. Getting desparate, aren't they?
And my count in driving from Nasrec to William Nichol was 6 e-tags. And 4 where company vehicles.

But I did notice something interesting at William Nichol this morning. On the N1 South. There was a seriously kitted out motorcylce in the emergency lane, red lights flashing, rider checking something on his cellphone - dressed in a Red Overall and white helmet. The Sanral Logos were clear on the side panniers (Is that what you call them?), but the blue paramedic logo was also visible on the petrol tank. I couldn't take a photo, too far away. But motorcycle emergency first-response? What a genius idea. Once again - you can see they put a lot of thought into the infrastructure, but the whole method of collection is what turns me off.
 
I noticed today that the customer service offices are now open from 6:00 to 20:00. Getting desparate, aren't they?
And my count in driving from Nasrec to William Nichol was 6 e-tags. And 4 where company vehicles.

But I did notice something interesting at William Nichol this morning. On the N1 South. There was a seriously kitted out motorcylce in the emergency lane, red lights flashing, rider checking something on his cellphone - dressed in a Red Overall and white helmet. The Sanral Logos were clear on the side panniers (Is that what you call them?), but the blue paramedic logo was also visible on the petrol tank. I couldn't take a photo, too far away. But motorcycle emergency first-response? What a genius idea. Once again - you can see they put a lot of thought into the infrastructure, but the whole method of collection is what turns me off.

Like this u mean ?

http://blog.er24.co.za/2012/11/er24-and-sanral-on-the-roads/

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Let me be the first to welcome our much despised taxi drivers to this fight ..

I mean if guavamunt classifies you as public transport without providing the required permits the obvious thing to do would be to raise transport prises. In fact may I suggest you add an additional margin to the e-toll fees you pass onto your customers, Avis profits from e-tags so why shouldn't you?

I'm sure the taxi-fairing public wouldn't mind because guavamunt stressed that e-tolling is affordable. They will happily follow the transport ministers directive to simply adjust and accept that they're helping to build infrastructure that will withstand the elements.

Now where's our own resident myBB taxi-driver when you need him?
 
Considering that I will be staying in JHB this December, I am so glad I'm getting a dashcam for my birthday this month ;)

Time to log all Sanral harrasment.
 
Unfortunately our resident MyBB taxi-driver is probably writing his last exam before schools close for the year.
 
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