The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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The account will magically disappear after the funeral. Nazir Alli will delete the records from the database
 
I seriously doubt it was paid.
Zooooma probably told them to do it.
 
I guess it also works for Police number plates... you can see how much driving they do.... OR didnt do!
 
Koosi said:
*claps hands* so you found my site
We have a forum now hackstuff.co.za/forum/
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You do know that sharing is caring. Due to my sophisticated "hacking skills" (read Google) and my curiosity on what is on the e-tag mag-stripe, a search for "e-tag track2" saved me the time of trying to find my old card reader ;-).
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
You do know that sharing is caring. Due to my sophisticated "hacking skills" (read Google) and my curiosity on what is on the e-tag mag-stripe, a search for "e-tag track2" saved me the time of trying to find my old card reader ;-).
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I would suggest obscuring your card number...
 
SANRAL fabricating e-tag sales : OUTA

The SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) were fabricating their e-tag sales to more than double what they were, the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) said on Wednesday.

"Based on a statistically sound sample size, Outa's research shows that only 15 percent of freeway users are tagged and nine percent of vehicles counted off the freeway were tagged," chairman Wayne Duvenage said in a statement.

"Obviously, it is the freeway-user count that matters in this exercise, but the off-freeway count helps to corroborate our findings."

Earlier on Wednesday, Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona said: "Currently 890,388 VLN/e-tags have been committed."

Outa's research showed, of a sample of 2098 cars which used the freeway, 317 had e-tags which equalled around 15.1 percent.

Of a sample of 2236 cars which did not use the freeways, 212 had e-tags, equalling around 9.5 percent.

Duvenage said given that around one third of cars in Gauteng did not use the freeway, it was expected the non-freeway figure would be lower.

Applying the sample to the total number of cars which used Gauteng's freeways every month, being around 2.3 million cars, Outa believed the number of e-tags sold was only around 350,000.

"Even if one pushed the e-tag penetration rate to 20 percent, the number of e-tags in use will be no more than 450,000," Duvenage said.

"Which is around half the number of tags sales recently espoused by Sanral."

He encouraged the public to do e-tag counts themselves if they did not take Outa's word for it.

"E-tags are easy to see, especially at traffic lights on freeway off and on-ramps and in car parks of shopping centres," Duvenage said.

"This Christmas, there is a new game for your kids whilst travelling around Gauteng - spot the e-tag."

Outa called on Sanral to come clean and provide the actual e-tag count passing under the toll gantries.

The e-tolling of Gauteng highways started last Tuesday.

Mona said the implementation of e-tolling had gone according to plan.

Motorists without an e-tag had seven days to pay for the use of the tolled roads in Gauteng. After the seven-day period, the transactions were processed and invoices issued.

"The first seven days of toll collection on the Gauteng e-roads only came to an end last night, and it is therefore too early to report on the issuing of invoices for those e-toll transactions that have not been paid within seven days," Mona said.

"However, so far the internal processes have been running smoothly."

He said it should be noted that the legal obligation to pay e-tolls arose from using the tolled roads and passing underneath a toll gantry.

"The legal obligation to pay toll therefore does not arise from an invoice that is forwarded to a user," he said.

In terms of regulations, the user had a seven-day grace period to pay the toll.

Mona said 42 of the 45 toll gantries were fully operational.

"The last three gantries will become operational shortly," he said.

Equipment on these three gantries could be fitted and calibrated only once the construction of the road had been completed.


Source : Sapa /aw/ks
Date : 11 Dec 2013 19:04
 
this is gonna get quite amusing when our go-slow postal service has to deliver - pass the popcorn ;-)
 
Bundu said:
this is gonna get quite amusing when our go-slow postal service has to deliver - pass the popcorn ;-)
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Payment is not predicated on the issuing or delivery of an invoice though. Somehow they managed to sneak that into the Scamral Act. So they're under no obligation to ensure that you are aware of debt, which by law requires an invoice of some sorts iirc. But it's debt. Even though it's a tax. But it's a debt. But they don't have to issue invoices. And you're assumed guilty, and have to prove innocence.

Legal beagles - surely the presumption of guilt is unconstitutional? Scamral are under no obligation to deliver invoices, and are under no obligation to prove transgressions. They are also under no obligation to provide evidence of debt and communication thereof. They are also making this a criminal matter.

So:

1) how can the presumption of guilt be constitutional?
2) how can the debt prescribe if they have no legislated obligation to inform the indebted of the debt?
3) does this not imply perpetual indebtedness with no prescription, seeing as they are exempt from compliance with the NCA?
4) how is debt to a private company a criminal matter?
 
DJ... said:
Payment is not predicated on the issuing or delivery of an invoice though. Somehow they managed to sneak that into the Scamral Act. So they're under no obligation to ensure that you are aware of debt, which by law requires an invoice of some sorts iirc. But it's debt. Even though it's a tax. But it's a debt. But they don't have to issue invoices. And you're assumed guilty, and have to prove innocence.

Legal beagles - surely the presumption of guilt is unconstitutional? Scamral are under no obligation to deliver invoices, and are under no obligation to prove transgressions. They are also under no obligation to provide evidence of debt and communication thereof. They are also making this a criminal matter.

So:

1) how can the presumption of guilt be constitutional?
2) how can the debt prescribe if they have no legislated obligation to inform the indebted of the debt?
3) does this not imply perpetual indebtedness with no prescription, seeing as they are exempt from compliance with the NCA?
4) how is debt to a private company a criminal matter?
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ZUMA!

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DJ... said:
Payment is not predicated on the issuing or delivery of an invoice though. Somehow they managed to sneak that into the Scamral Act. So they're under no obligation to ensure that you are aware of debt, which by law requires an invoice of some sorts iirc. But it's debt. Even though it's a tax. But it's a debt. But they don't have to issue invoices. And you're assumed guilty, and have to prove innocence.

Legal beagles - surely the presumption of guilt is unconstitutional? Scamral are under no obligation to deliver invoices, and are under no obligation to prove transgressions. They are also under no obligation to provide evidence of debt and communication thereof. They are also making this a criminal matter.

So:

1) how can the presumption of guilt be constitutional?
2) how can the debt prescribe if they have no legislated obligation to inform the indebted of the debt?
3) does this not imply perpetual indebtedness with no prescription, seeing as they are exempt from compliance with the NCA?
4) how is debt to a private company a criminal matter?
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surely I'm not going to one day be arrested for not paying attention to the media Re. e-tolling? ;-)
 
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